Hurt? Depressed? I don’t know but playing terrible on both sides of the floor right now.
Cliff a liability right now
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if he’s an nba draft pick this year then i’m the prince of denmark
We looked good when Dean was in. I hope he gets another crack in the second half.
If a fan pump fakes right now Cliff is gonna jump
Head over to new thread to call out Cliff when up at halftime on road in B1G MBB. Pathetic. 
I hate the hedging. Cliff needs do stay down low.
Settle down
Depressed ? WTF? He looks gimpy. Probably nursing some type of injury.
He got the tie up at the end for us tonight. Might be struggling offensively but still making plays. Were you also one of the guys who said Cam wasn’t b10 material when he struggled.
Crucial to the win tonight. His scoring has fallen off, but he’s been great rebounding wise and picked it up defensively, has also passed very well out of Post ups.
A portion of Cliff’s problems is that the guards are forcing the ball to him too often. Even when he was 100% he couldn’t handle some of their passes. Also he doesn’t have enough moves to drive with three guys standing in front of him no matter how close to the basket he is.
He is not hurt. Teams have figured out that if you keep him away from the rim he will not score, he cannot create his own shot. Also I think he feeds off and gets some of his energy off his dunks. Take the dunks away and he looks out of it on the offensive end of the floor.
Right, so I am surprised that’s Pike’s strategy. He’s gets the ball too far away to do anything with it except get stuck behind the hoop on the baseline when he drives
Caleb has never been a great offensive player. I dont know why fans thought that was going to change.
It’s different when you the man on the scouting report.
Cliff played excellent D in the second half
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Dean was abused on the glass and defensively, not sure what you saw.
Agree with you here. Cliff is still rebounding at least. McConnell seems slow and in a fog half of each game.
Teams are limiting Cliff's opportunities to score off set post plays. As soon as Cliff puts the ball on the deck, opposing teams run a double team at him. The idea is to force the ball out of his hands. The other players made the opposing team pay for doubling Cliff by making threes tonight.
Cliff is rebounding. He’s hardly a liability. Terrible take:
Cliff must refuse to get suckered on help hedging off a pick... or at least get his hands up to stop passes over his head to the cutter.
If he would get hurt on that once.. maybe twice.. then fake the help and bounce back to intercept the pass that might put an end to it. I cannot believe he/we got hurt on that in both halfs.
On O.. there were several times where an easy alley-oop top him was there and out players missed it... once.. Mag just put up a horrid shot instead. Hyatt missed an opportunity for this as well. others too.. though they were more closely guarded.
But if you are Cliff and you do the right things and don't see the ball when you worked for an advantage.. that can get to you. Ideally, it shouldn't.. and Cliff should keep working on O.. but he is only human. The worst thing is that when he finally gets a touch he feels the need to force a shot. And that's on the whole offense.. and Coach Pike.. as well as Cliff. They all allowed the conditions that lead to that moment.
If he would get hurt on that once.. maybe twice.. then fake the help and bounce back to intercept the pass that might put an end to it. I cannot believe he/we got hurt on that in both halfs.
On O.. there were several times where an easy alley-oop top him was there and out players missed it... once.. Mag just put up a horrid shot instead. Hyatt missed an opportunity for this as well. others too.. though they were more closely guarded.
But if you are Cliff and you do the right things and don't see the ball when you worked for an advantage.. that can get to you. Ideally, it shouldn't.. and Cliff should keep working on O.. but he is only human. The worst thing is that when he finally gets a touch he feels the need to force a shot. And that's on the whole offense.. and Coach Pike.. as well as Cliff. They all allowed the conditions that lead to that moment.
Cliffs roll gravity must not be forgotten either. Reason why we are able to get so many midrange shots is cause bigs have to stick on Cliff.
What ann awful thread, with some awful responses.
No doubt Cliff is struggling on offense, but he was a beast on the boards tonight and made some good passes out of the post. He is also a big presence on D. We are much worse when he is on the bench. Hopefully, he breaks out on offense soon.
Your alternative to Cliff? let's enjoy the victory - not long ago this type of game On the Road - doesn't get the W
I’m not sure how you can call a guy who led both teams with 11 rebounds a liability.
No one on this board thinks like this. Because they are not coaches, luckily! Like Painter said, if you listen to those guys you’ll be sitting with them!
Cliff is hurting. He has no jump in his game. I believe he hurt his calf or thigh towards end of Purdue game if I recall.
We are seeing posters call multiple players a weakness on the team.
This after a road win
McConnell plays tough D
Cliff a good defender and rebounder
The team played well enough to win with great poise after the NW run
I thought we would lose and did not give the team the credit for playing with poise,
I thought we would fade at the end under the pressure of the loud crowd
This is the team that gets it done this year
Agreed. He did a lot to help get the win tonight .
Cliff was much better in the 2nd half, with lots of rebounds, 2 blocks, altered a few more and got that big tie-up. Wish he could get going more on O though.