Chuck vs. Shaq
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I didnt have Wade and Kobe carrying me up and down the court.
I'm firmly in Chuck's corner.. Shaq is such a woman it's not even funny.
Amazing how quickly Shaq has transitioned to looking REALLY old.
You can''t compare the two.. It's like comparing a kid from a gated community to a child from the ghetto.. Barkley never had the opportunities Shaq had.
Both guys are great. Although I think Inside was better before Shaq joined. He has to keep bringing it back to himself, and that's not what works for the show. It's how well the guys play off each other.
I wish they would get rid of Shaq, he's nothing but a prick that thinks he knows it all, I can't understand him when he talks sounds like he has a wad of crap in his mouth.
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Shaq *was* the opportunity. But yes, he had better players around him. Chuck had some good teams around him too though. He just couldn't beat the other greats of his era.
Shaq is sensitive. The arguments between the two is pretty funny
I'm guessing 7'1 300 pound humans don't age well.....
I’m talking about 2 years ago until now. He looks awful. I guess getting fat really makes one look old.
Yeah I think we'd all agree Shq was the better player.. But he just had a lot more help than Barkley had. His Rings argument is so tiresome. Shaq in general is tiresome.. and Barkley is far from the only guy that gets his panties in a bunch.
Shaq literally argues and injects like a 7 year old. And I also don't think he knows the game as well as Chuck, nor is he willing to call things/people out.
No contest for me. I'm on Chuck's nuts and I don't care who knows it!
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I think it’s funny that shaq’s main point is that you can’t just baby these players and everyone is out here acting like Shaq is the one wrong here. Yet when something happens here everyone’s all “they need to grow up, be a man, work hard and stop expecting things for free”. It’s hypocritical. If Shaq is wrong, then you agree with Charles basically saying the star player has to be coddled and babied and should get his way no matter what. That’s the point of shaq’s argument. Is that what you also disagree with? I love Charles. He cracks me up. Loved it when he said he wanted to punch Draymond in the face. But Shaq was right here in my opinion.
It hasn’t hurt his commercial appeal though. Guy’s got a commercial for every segment of the economy. LOL
It's one of the reasons it's great television--2 guys giving actual opinions, disagreeing and not afraid to get personal or share their true thoughts.
I side with Shaq on the debate in discussion. Coddling a phony "star" is laughable. Demar DeRozan should thank the current NBA market system for getting paid like he's something he's not. Same for Kyle Lowry. Toronto is not winning anything of relevance with them.
As for Shaq's argument compared to Barkley, he can talk of what it means to make sacrifices and accept role change. And Chuck is right about Miami where Wade and Mourning's defense off bench not mention officials in that series helped bring him 4th ring--but as great as Kobe was, Shaq was unreal in the NBA Playoffs and the most dominant force when he was in his prime. The fact is that he is one of the few people on the planet that can say he beat Michael Jordan in the postseason when Jordan was in his prime. Return from sabbatical or not, Orlando beat the Bulls and Shaq was a young player, so it was even more impressive.
And every championship team has guys you need to rely on--can't fault Shaq that he was surrounded by talent but he made game easier for those guys too. What has Wade done without Shaq and Lebron? Kobe was in rebuild post Shaq until Lakers got better talent to fit him in his prime. It goes hand in hand.
Key to the discussion is ALL of the players mentioned and the 2 arguing are at a different level like fakes like DeRozan.
I side with Shaq on the debate in discussion. Coddling a phony "star" is laughable. Demar DeRozan should thank the current NBA market system for getting paid like he's something he's not. Same for Kyle Lowry. Toronto is not winning anything of relevance with them.
As for Shaq's argument compared to Barkley, he can talk of what it means to make sacrifices and accept role change. And Chuck is right about Miami where Wade and Mourning's defense off bench not mention officials in that series helped bring him 4th ring--but as great as Kobe was, Shaq was unreal in the NBA Playoffs and the most dominant force when he was in his prime. The fact is that he is one of the few people on the planet that can say he beat Michael Jordan in the postseason when Jordan was in his prime. Return from sabbatical or not, Orlando beat the Bulls and Shaq was a young player, so it was even more impressive.
And every championship team has guys you need to rely on--can't fault Shaq that he was surrounded by talent but he made game easier for those guys too. What has Wade done without Shaq and Lebron? Kobe was in rebuild post Shaq until Lakers got better talent to fit him in his prime. It goes hand in hand.
Key to the discussion is ALL of the players mentioned and the 2 arguing are at a different level like fakes like DeRozan.
Anyone want to let me know what they were even debating? I want to know before I pick my winner
I didn't see last nights comments, I'm behind there.. But i'm talking about every other night when he just whines, interjects, gets butt hurt and replies with "How many rings"
Chuck is correct.
He's not saying baby the player. He said he needs to repair relationship.
There's no way in hell you are going to do well if the best player on the team and coach aren't seeing eye to eye.
He's not saying baby the player. He said he needs to repair relationship.
There's no way in hell you are going to do well if the best player on the team and coach aren't seeing eye to eye.
I bet he is closer to 350 at least don't you think?
Chuck was a hell of a player. Not winning championships doesn’t make someone terrible. Chuck didn’t have anyone to play with for a large portion of his career and when he went to Houston he was way beyond his prime. Shaq and many others totally undersell chuck as a player. That said Shaq was a force. They’re both looked like idiots arguing like that’s though.
Neither offer really great insight into breaking down the game. But they are entertaining. Chuck hustled his butt off when he played. If he was 7-2 and 300+ lbs he would’ve had a wheel barrel full of rings.
Has Shaq ever had an argument where he didn't gloat about his rings?
Good lord, man, we get it already, you won some championships, congrats. But that does not make your arguments correct nor the things you say sound any smarter.
Good lord, man, we get it already, you won some championships, congrats. But that does not make your arguments correct nor the things you say sound any smarter.
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He is the best player on the Raps and it isnt particularly close. If he isnt, who is?
Lowry is better by just about every objective measure.