I hate to see see him go. I hope Williams isn’t next.
Christian Shumate
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Wheels are off...
I can see TU losing all freshmen.
Doesn't matter, though.
Need a complete re-do - throughout AD and Admin.
I can see TU losing all freshmen.
Doesn't matter, though.
Need a complete re-do - throughout AD and Admin.
So dumb. (Not by Shumate but by Haith). That kid should have been a big piece moving forward. He could jump out of the gym. I will never understand why we didn't let him play.
Because he had to play Haywood who’s turned out to be the worst transfer we have had in recent history.
The only way this doesn’t turn out bad is if we end up with multiple good ready to play transfers to replace the young guys. We’ll see I guess
Really bad news. In his very limited minutes, he showed real potential.
You have to wonder if this happens if Haith gave him legit playing time.
You have to wonder if this happens if Haith gave him legit playing time.
I just can’t understand where everyone saw so much potential. Early in year against some suspect competition in mop up minutes he had some game. However he never played enough meaningful minutes to have any idea of his skills. The two games he did come in early were not his finest. After the second time he only saw mop up rest of year. Maybe frank is that bad and benched him to play his favorite red but for me., never saw minutes to make me think he had potential.
He made some amazing plays when he was in mop up minutes. There was no way that he could be worse than Haywood was at that position.
The biggest problem with the transfer portal is something nobody wants to talk about: for the overwhelming number of kids sticking their name in there, it will damage, not improve their development as players. For those it improves, for many, it will only benefit the school and not the player.
Let’s wait and see where he signs before we decide whether it was good or bad. And let’s wait and see if the spot is filled by a savvy roster move or a scramble to find marginal talent before we say this is good or bad.
Similarly, I’m happy Horne went to Colorado and had a great season. When do we get a check from Colorado for the sale on? (That’s a European soccer term). Put another way, we invested $300,000 developing Jeriah Horne only to hand him a diploma and have him say goodbye and spend his most productive years elsewhere. Colorado gets about five times our revenue from TV and tourneys. Because they supposedly have the best players. One of those best players we developed and supplied. Where’s our cut of that action?
Finally, I can’t complain about Haith. I don’t know enough about basketball. But I know enough about TU finances and sports administration to say that it is absolutely outrageous that over a seven year period only one half of his players stay more than a year. (Though those that do stay almost all graduate, most early or on time).
Frank: stop pissing away our limited funds on kids that aren’t going to be here. If you want to know why we aren’t in the tourney, look in the mirror. The reason you had “ten guys that didn’t know each other” is because four years ago you didn’t bring in players that would stay and develop. Your reliance on the portal has given you a chance to escape scrutiny for recruits leaving the program three years before the portal ever existed.
Let’s wait and see where he signs before we decide whether it was good or bad. And let’s wait and see if the spot is filled by a savvy roster move or a scramble to find marginal talent before we say this is good or bad.
Similarly, I’m happy Horne went to Colorado and had a great season. When do we get a check from Colorado for the sale on? (That’s a European soccer term). Put another way, we invested $300,000 developing Jeriah Horne only to hand him a diploma and have him say goodbye and spend his most productive years elsewhere. Colorado gets about five times our revenue from TV and tourneys. Because they supposedly have the best players. One of those best players we developed and supplied. Where’s our cut of that action?
Finally, I can’t complain about Haith. I don’t know enough about basketball. But I know enough about TU finances and sports administration to say that it is absolutely outrageous that over a seven year period only one half of his players stay more than a year. (Though those that do stay almost all graduate, most early or on time).
Frank: stop pissing away our limited funds on kids that aren’t going to be here. If you want to know why we aren’t in the tourney, look in the mirror. The reason you had “ten guys that didn’t know each other” is because four years ago you didn’t bring in players that would stay and develop. Your reliance on the portal has given you a chance to escape scrutiny for recruits leaving the program three years before the portal ever existed.
He's loved transfers before Tulsa. Been one of his problems for years.
You don’t work nearly as hard recruiting transfers as a few weeks is all it takes. Compare that to. 2-4 years on Freshmen recruiting. Transfers are the lazy way to fill a roster.