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Grow dimmer and dimmer...but not that we really deserved it. Looks like Bama...Ohio State...Clemson...and Washington. Us and Wisconsin fogging up the window looking in. Unless weird sh*t happens....

Still to be determined... The pirate forgot to give his players their swords yesterday... If Washington gets beat by USC/Colorado next week and/or Clemson gets beat...

MSU could beat PSU today and tOSU lose next week... There are many possibilities...

Alabama could lose twice... It is very unlikely, but still possible...
 
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bcsoonerfan

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It appears the B1G is going to canabalize itself down to 1 playoff team (if Minny and MSU hang on). Our fait rests in the hands of USC/Colorado. Better hope Utah takes care of the Buffs.
 

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I think the best shot for you guys is that the PAC 12 champ ends up with a couple of losses
 

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I think the best shot for you guys is that the PAC 12 champ ends up with a couple of losses

I don't see a 2 loss OU or OSU team in the playoffs while a 1 loss Ohio State sits it out. The committee has Ohio State #2 this week and they just beat the #3. Conference champions be damned. The idea is to get the 4 best teams in the playoffs. I hate Ohio State but right is right. Plus the fact that Alabama has won 24 straight and should come into the playoffs at 25. I want teams in the playoffs that have the best chance of winning it all. Bama could be in the 30's if someone doesn't get them soon.
 
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Grow dimmer and dimmer...but not that we really deserved it. Looks like Bama...Ohio State...Clemson...and Washington. Us and Wisconsin fogging up the window looking in. Unless weird sh*t happens....
And to be honest, OU prolly got far too much love from the polls when going through the "meat" of their schedule and running over horrible Big XII teams. OU should feel damn fortunate to be included in the discussion at this point.

I will say I'm amazed Ohio State has managed to get through this season and put themselves in a position to have a legit chance to get a playoff spot. With losing so much off that team last year, just incredible that Urban reloaded and has taken the least experienced team in Div-1 to prolly making a playoff and a chance at a national title. THAT is incredible coaching!!!
 
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It's gonna be Alabama, Clemson, UDUB, & Penn State. There's no way they put TOSU in over a team they lost to and who is Big 10 champ which is what they'll be after they handle Wisc.
 
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Good wishful thinking. We don't deserve to be in the discussion for anything until after we win the conference Championship Saturday.
 

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Take care of Houston, a team OU should NEVER LOSE to and take the whipping from tOSU and we still should not be in and probably would not be anyway even if we win vs little sister next week. Houston lost to SMU, Navy and Memphis and beat OU and Louisville, Louisville lost to Kentucky, let that marinate a while. Our SOS has to be pathetic right about now.
 

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Take care of Houston, a team OU should NEVER LOSE to and take the whipping from tOSU and we still should not be in and probably would not be anyway even if we win vs little sister next week. Houston lost to SMU, Navy and Memphis and beat OU and Louisville, Louisville lost to Kentucky, let that marinate a while. Our SOS has to be pathetic right about now.

If you don't think Louisville and Houston are good teams, I just have to assume you're a bit clueless or you're letting your emotions cloud your judgement.

It's not a coincidence that Houston lost every time the Herman Sweepstakes was the talk of Texas. And Louisville lost to Clemson, who they problem should have beat, got Superbowled by Houston same as us, then had a letdown against a 'better than you think' Kentucky team.

Momentum, emotion, and distraction can play such pivotal roles in the outcome of games that you think should be "sure thing" wins. If you haven't picked that up by now, you're probably the former of the previous options.
 

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I never said they were not decent teams. Herman has been the flavor of the week all season so how does a distraction account for the games they won? Again, Houston lost to Navy, SMU and Memphis, POWERHOUSES.
Momentum, emotion and distraction? Nothing but excuses.
And no Kentucky is not better than I think they are. They are Kentucky and always will be the Kansas of the SEC, a Basketball School. I think you are letting your emotions get the best of you because the HC at Kentucky is a Stoops. I don't care who the HC is at Kentucky, they are a lower tier football program in the SEC and always have been and this year the SEC Eastern Division is one of the worst in CF. Emotions pfffft.
 

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I never said they were not decent teams. Herman has been the flavor of the week all season so how does a distraction account for the games they won? Again, Houston lost to Navy, SMU and Memphis, POWERHOUSES.
Momentum, emotion and distraction? Nothing but excuses.
And no Kentucky is not better than I think they are. They are Kentucky and always will be the Kansas of the SEC, a Basketball School. I think you are letting your emotions get the best of you because the HC at Kentucky is a Stoops. I don't care who the HC is at Kentucky, they are a lower tier football program in the SEC and always have been and this year the SEC Eastern Division is one of the worst in CF. Emotions pfffft.

Clueless it is.

When I have some time I'll explain the concept of an "upset" and how they can happen.
 
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Take care of Houston, a team OU should NEVER LOSE to and take the whipping from tOSU and we still should not be in and probably would not be anyway even if we win vs little sister next week. Houston lost to SMU, Navy and Memphis and beat OU and Louisville, Louisville lost to Kentucky, let that marinate a while. Our SOS has to be pathetic right about now.

http://www.fbschedules.com/2016/05/2016-college-football-strength-schedule-win-loss-method/

https://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/ranking/schedule-strength-by-other

Two methods... Drastically different results...

Then there is this...

http://athlonsports.com/college-football/ranking-college-footballs-top-25-toughest-schedules-2016
 
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Clueless it is.

When I have some time I'll explain the concept of an "upset" and how they can happen.
I explain "upsets" as either lapses in preparation due to overconfidence and/or lack of respect for the opponent. Upsets rarely just happen on Saturdays. They are generally the result of the team taking practice and preparation the week prior less seriously as they believe the upcoming opponent is going to be an easy win.
Also I think teams start to play tight and leads to losses. Instead of going out and playing like they need to play to win, they start to play like they don't want to lose a shot at making a playoff and get tight and then don't play with the personality and confidence that they are capable of.

That being said, it certainly should NOT apply to OUs loss to Houston as it was the opening game of the year and Houston should have been looked at as a legit opponent and not a team the OU players should have looked at as an easy win.
 
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Upset is a set up done differently. David vs. Goliath.

Upset is my stomach after Chinese buffet that sucks...

Pulling an upset over a team considered better... blah, blah, blah...

Somebody went out and said, "enough is enough, you're not kicking my *** and taking my lunch money..."

Maybe they were upset about that before they "upset" anyone...
 
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I explain "upsets" as either lapses in preparation due to overconfidence and/or lack of respect for the opponent. Upsets rarely just happen on Saturdays. They are generally the result of the team taking practice and preparation the week prior less seriously as they believe the upcoming opponent is going to be an easy win.
Also I think teams start to play tight and leads to losses. Instead of going out and playing like they need to play to win, they start to play like they don't want to lose a shot at making a playoff and get tight and then don't play with the personality and confidence that they are capable of.

That being said, it certainly should NOT apply to OUs loss to Houston as it was the opening game of the year and Houston should have been looked at as a legit opponent and not a team the OU players should have looked at as an easy win.

Houston's win over us I don't really view as an upset. Though I do believe their players and staff viewed us as a springboard to a potential playoff possibility, where our players and staff treated it like another game and didn't respect the challenge they presented. The evidence being us playing our typical early season vanilla style.

I was speaking more toward Houston and Louisville's losses in regards to upsets (some of them), and various reasons behind them.

Does anybody really believe Houston at their best the season isn't better than SMU?

How bout Iowa State being nearly 60 points better than Texas Tech?

Pittsburgh over Clemson?

Iowa over Michigan?

I could find one every week of every season.
 

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I don't believe any team that gets beat by a so called inferior team is an upset. To me there are no upsets. The better prepared team on that particular day got the job done and the other didn't. Just like some people say all the hoopla surrounding Bowl Games affect the losing team because of the distractions, well there are 2 teams so why was only one team affected? Saying Houston was distracted because of Herman being talked about for Coaching jobs at other schools is laughable and that accounts for their losses to SMU, Navy and Memphis. Are those losses considered UPSETS? Losing to those teams in the same season cannot be written off as upsets or because of any so called distractions. Houston just aint that good imo, for one game they were better than OU.
 

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The term "on paper" comes to mind here, where talent and experience often translate to victory over a team with less talent and experience. When this doesn't occur it is generally considered an upset...and it happens often. There are many things to consider when trying to understand why a team with superior talent loses to a team they "should beat". Lack of focus, poor preparation, and the "hangover" affect are just a few things to consider.

But these upsets do happen and that's the reality of all sports.
 

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Upsets are much more prevalent now because of parity.
And many upsets aren't really surprises anymore. Most teams have enough talent to render a "David and Goliath" outcome on any given day.
 
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The term "on paper" comes to mind here, where talent and experience often translate to victory over a team with less talent and experience. When this doesn't occur it is generally considered an upset...and it happens often. There are many things to consider when trying to understand why a team with superior talent loses to a team they "should beat". Lack of focus, poor preparation, and the "hangover" affect are just a few things to consider.

But these upsets do happen and that's the reality of all sports.
You're right, OUs loss to Houston wasn't necessarily an upset, but it was a game OU should have won.

But Saban at a couple of points touches perfectly on what you are talking about in terms of dropping a game to a team that should be a sure win in this vid. It's a couple of weeks ago after a rough performance against Chattanooga. He is right on the money on how top ranked teams can completely lay an egg and lose a game to a team that should have been a complete mismatch.
If you don't wanna watch the entire vid, here are the few timeframes to listen.
1:00-3:00
4:35-5:05
8:22-9:37

 
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