Can’t Wait Another Year

RUDiddy777

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I agree the buyout is also money we don’t have to spend but not really anyone wants to invest in Pike, it’s like burning money.

Everyone is on a one year deal anyway. I’m skeptical the money would be there for either a buyout or NIL - had we found the money for Cliff last year, it’s hard to argue this wouldn’t have been a 2nd weekend team at least.
 

Bob Chaewsky_rivals

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First, I grew up on R Hoops, I would hardly consider myself a casual fan.

Second, this is big business, and it's time to stop pretending it's not. Mind you, I also posted a couple weeks ago that I would be okay with Hoops pulling additional funds from football IF they committed to an actual well known winning HC.

I just acknowledge that in it's current form, you're better off taking the allocated rev share and putting it towards something that you believe has a pulse at minimum.

I do not think putting 3.5-4 million into this program next season is a smart decision. That money could be used to build a very strong OL or DL which would have a far bigger impact on Rutgers than anything happening in hoops right now.

Unless you're telling me we're moving on from an assistant coach and bringing in a real offensive game plan, and we're moving on from the 5-7 player freshman classes and landing bigger, older portal players who fit the specific system.
System?
 

The RUT

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Like if they hired a coach to run the offense. Let’s say he was a motion offense and the plan was to take the rev share funds to grab guys for that.

Otherwise it’s a waste.

I mean if we’ve got 6/6.5M to spend on the roster it’s actually comical.

In what world does this roster equate to 6.5M next season? We have 7 freshmen presumably because you plan to bring them back, why else would you recruit HS?
 

PSAL_Hoops

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I believe we now have a competent Athletic Department. There will be 2500-4000 fans in the seats by mid January. Coming off the biggest failure in college basketball last year.

By Mid - End of January the rumors will start on line and in print. Early-Mid February the names will be leaked. Gain interest in behind the scenes dialogue.

I think your still a tad premature. The next 5 games are crossroad for Pike. He’ll be fired midseason if he loses to Del State (at least I’d hope he would be). Assuming we win that one, to avoid the fate you described he must find a win in the next 4 games that follow. Pencil in a loss @ Illinois, but the 3 home games vs OSU, NW and Oregon should be circled in bold for exclamation. If he loses all of them (regardless of how competitive we are) I think you’ll be right about the rumors. If we’re blown out in all of them, while a long shot, a midseason dismissal may not be out of the question.

The thing is, if we lose those 3 home games, then looking ahead - the next 7 games are either on the road, vs ranked teams, or both except one home game vs Indiana. So getting out of the donut column soon is really important for him.
 
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I think your still a tad premature. The next 5 games are crossroad for Pike. He’ll be fired midseason if he loses to Del State (at least I’d hope he would be). Assuming we win that one, to avoid the fate you described he must find a win in the next 4 games that follow. Pencil in a loss @ Illinois, but the 3 home games vs OSU, NW and Oregon should be circled in bold for exclamation. If he loses all of them (regardless of how competitive we are) I think you’ll be right about the rumors. If we’re blown out in all of them, while a long shot, a midseason dismissal may not be out of the question.

The thing is, if we lose those 3 home games, then looking ahead - the next 7 games are either on the road, vs ranked teams, or both except one home game vs Indiana. So getting out of the donut column soon is really important for him.
We’ll beat Delaware State, but may never get another win. At least, There aren’t any remaining sure wins.
 

Lawboy

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Keli has to pull the plug on this shtshow
I understand where you are coming from but are you and some of your dental friends going to put up the $$$ to buy out the contract? I don’t think so. His buy out drops in another season but with that being said Kelli will give him one year with NIL to right the ship. If he can retain a basic core and bring in 2-3 players that are at Grants level or better we will be mid pack. Schools with $$$$ have done this in the last few years. Look what Purdue and Indiana did with football. It was all about NIL. Our former President and AD screwed our sports teams over royally. Hobbs should have been fired when he decided not to look for money. Our President obviously was not interested in sports because he was too busy helping our academic side in getting grants.
 
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Fat Koko

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What is the source of the NIL millions raised over the past several months?

In the past, when companies signed big deals with Rutgers athletics, the companies and Rutgers would publish a joint press release announcing the agreements.

SHI naming rights
Jersey Mike's naming rights
Prudential NIL

Keli's bonus compensation is tied in part to NIL and sponsorship revenue. Keli makes more money if she raises more money for her department. Keli's contract allows her to earn herself a raise in the form of a higher bonus.
 

richthedentist

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What is the source of the NIL millions raised over the past several months?

In the past, when companies signed big deals with Rutgers athletics, the companies and Rutgers would publish a joint press release announcing the agreements.

SHI naming rights
Jersey Mike's naming rights
Prudential NIL

Keli's bonus compensation is tied in part to NIL and sponsorship revenue. Keli makes more money if she raises more money for her department. Keli's contract allows her to earn herself a raise in the form of a higher bonus.
 

richthedentist

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Koko I believe the NIL with the new rules now comes from the companies ( I believe Richie had a thread on this a while back) and the quote individual donors go into the academic excellence fund
Now of course I am sure there are ways around that as someone like a Mark Cuban who is now backing Indiana can donate his 30 million or so
But Keli has done an excellent job in raising money and I know her and Todd Knisley who is in charge of fundraising are more than working their tails off to raise money as they have helped secure some recruits in the Olympic sports with money that was previously not available to those teams
I still though don’t care how much money Pikell gets unless he makes some changes to his coaching staff and brings in a coach with an offensive scheme!!
This another one of Pikell faults he is too damn loyal to his assistants
Look at Schiano he finally realized he made a huge mistake on the defensive side and he has basically cleaned house
Let’s see what happens we still have a long way to go and I will still be at all the games I can attend cheering Rutgers on like I have for the past 50 years
 

biochemist001

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Yes when you have watched this team for 50 years and you sit there and watch game after game of a team that goes 40 minutes without running a single offensive set substitutions/rotations that are mind blowing and tonight the icing on the cake outrebounded by freaking PENN by 13 we are going to get annihilated in the BIG
We've already been annihilated in the B1G. Now it is just going to get worse.
 

biochemist001

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What a wr or two. Without a line they’re not enough to win games. You’ll blow the stack on keeping them but gone is the qb that threw to them and the line isn’t big ten caliber. Fools gold.
The offensive line graded out fine and you've got AJ Surace as next man up, plus you have a really good RB room. The problem this year was the defense at all levels.
 

S.W.A.I.N

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Here is the thing

what are we doing this year to develop to be better for next year

1.) finally …Ogoble got the bench. Leave him there . He isn’t a long term or short term answer and he just doesn’t understand how to rotate in pike defense

2.) finally …we played Dortch minures. He at least gets what we are doing on defense . He is a legit back up canter next year to the portal center we sign with the money we were chasing Devon Adkins

3.) Nuwuli on the bench does not devwkoo
Him . With orgoble needing to be on the bench ,he needs 25 minutes a game to fevelop

4.) I’m flat out ricked off thar powers didn’t play last night . He should be playing over Zrno . He will get bette defensively and he gets his shot off better arguable better than anyone on team

5.) mark finally got minures …and he must keep getting 25 minutes a game at the expense of Jmike (who just can’t get his shot off unless a rotational three )

If we had to be 6-6, it should have been pkaying Dortch , mark, powers , nuwuki and even grant more minutes …they would be further along …..

now we are going to big ten season …and we just are not going to win big ten game with Buchannan, Jmike ,
Ogoble gettong carve out. Ditto badalau , who will get massively chewed up . Zrno can get a few minutes as a spot up shooter off the bench

Play the frosh and sooh …and go through the growing pains
I was just saying if we don't devwkoo orgoble then he will never fevelop.
 

rpiseman

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Threaten him. Punish him. Great signal to the high quality coach you want to bring in.
It’s time for you to admit that Pikiell is a disgrace and an embarrassment to the school. The way he manages the team last year with two lottery picks was unconscionable.
 

ScarletteK80

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He does it on the women's bball board too, after every win and every loss. Soccer too. Makes me laugh every game, its like a treasure hunt, lets find the thread where Rich says to fire a coach!
Coquese Washington is a whole level up on "she should be gone already."
Should have NEVER been hired by the beauty named Hobbs to begin with. He could have done it last year, but they are "attorney buddies." He was also busy double dipping with the gymnastic coach. She and team are about to be smashed/destroyed by an extremely talented BigTen.
She could easily be replaced by the husband, and wife duo, or one of the other newbies she hired after firing RU's own Tasha Pointer.
 
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ancienthooper

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It’s time for you to admit that Pikiell is a disgrace and an embarrassment to the school. The way he manages the team last year with two lottery picks was unconscionable.
I guess he was also a disgrace and embarrassment when he resurrected one of the worst programs in the country? You think he’s a terrible coach, fine, it’s your opinion and it’s shared by others on this board. But very, very few would describe him as a disgrace and embarrassment to the school.