Keli has to pull the plug on this shtshow
Can’t Wait Another Year
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I think they're going to, but they really shouldn't.
The thing that I have a tough time with is football does have pieces to work with for next season. More rev share % for that program allows for more of an impact on the field.
If we've already determined the bball program is dead, and almost everyone knows it, how are we not giving football a bigger piece of the pie for next season? Seems really dumb to give bball 4 million (?) in rev share when you could just funnel that money to football for 2 elite defensive lineman.
The thing that I have a tough time with is football does have pieces to work with for next season. More rev share % for that program allows for more of an impact on the field.
If we've already determined the bball program is dead, and almost everyone knows it, how are we not giving football a bigger piece of the pie for next season? Seems really dumb to give bball 4 million (?) in rev share when you could just funnel that money to football for 2 elite defensive lineman.
Is this going to be after every game RICH the dentist?
4 million saving doesnt matter
It's not savings, it's the allocation of funds.
If you're going into next year saying the guy is a dead man walking and you've given up on him, then the 4 million is dead money.
It's a years investment in something you've already decided isn't going to work out.
The reality is, we do have offensive pieces that are high level.
I'd rather have that rev share put towards football for next season.
Only 20ish more times for him to post this same thread left over the next 3 months!
Yes when you have watched this team for 50 years and you sit there and watch game after game of a team that goes 40 minutes without running a single offensive set substitutions/rotations that are mind blowing and tonight the icing on the cake outrebounded by freaking PENN by 13 we are going to get annihilated in the BIG
What a wr or two. Without a line they’re not enough to win games. You’ll blow the stack on keeping them but gone is the qb that threw to them and the line isn’t big ten caliber. Fools gold.
I personally believe we could go to Rucker Park, find eight guys who have never been to college, and give them scholarships and 25k each and we'd be better than the team we currently have (btw, this is basically what the Univ of Houston does), but ...
There is no money for a new coach. I wish there is, but there isn't. So stop asking for a new coach hire because you're only going to be disappointed. We can't afford one and we can't afford one for a very long time into the future. It is not going to happen.
There is no money for a new coach. I wish there is, but there isn't. So stop asking for a new coach hire because you're only going to be disappointed. We can't afford one and we can't afford one for a very long time into the future. It is not going to happen.
He does it on the women's bball board too, after every win and every loss. Soccer too. Makes me laugh every game, its like a treasure hunt, lets find the thread where Rich says to fire a coach!
This is so dumb and not how you run a department or attract a top candidate. I get it, you’re probably a casual hoops fan, but you can’t just take all the money away. Football hasn’t done anything of note in 20 years, take the money from them-see how silly that sounds. Imagine the word that would get around? You give a coach resources to succeed and then if they don’t, then you have to move on.
Here is the thing
what are we doing this year to develop to be better for next year
1.) finally …Ogoble got the bench. Leave him there . He isn’t a long term or short term answer and he just doesn’t understand how to rotate in pike defense
2.) finally …we played Dortch minures. He at least gets what we are doing on defense . He is a legit back up canter next year to the portal center we sign with the money we were chasing Devon Adkins
3.) Nuwuli on the bench does not devwkoo
Him . With orgoble needing to be on the bench ,he needs 25 minutes a game to fevelop
4.) I’m flat out ricked off thar powers didn’t play last night . He should be playing over Zrno . He will get bette defensively and he gets his shot off better arguable better than anyone on team
5.) mark finally got minures …and he must keep getting 25 minutes a game at the expense of Jmike (who just can’t get his shot off unless a rotational three )
If we had to be 6-6, it should have been pkaying Dortch , mark, powers , nuwuki and even grant more minutes …they would be further along …..
now we are going to big ten season …and we just are not going to win big ten game with Buchannan, Jmike ,
Ogoble gettong carve out. Ditto badalau , who will get massively chewed up . Zrno can get a few minutes as a spot up shooter off the bench
Play the frosh and sooh …and go through the growing pains
what are we doing this year to develop to be better for next year
1.) finally …Ogoble got the bench. Leave him there . He isn’t a long term or short term answer and he just doesn’t understand how to rotate in pike defense
2.) finally …we played Dortch minures. He at least gets what we are doing on defense . He is a legit back up canter next year to the portal center we sign with the money we were chasing Devon Adkins
3.) Nuwuli on the bench does not devwkoo
Him . With orgoble needing to be on the bench ,he needs 25 minutes a game to fevelop
4.) I’m flat out ricked off thar powers didn’t play last night . He should be playing over Zrno . He will get bette defensively and he gets his shot off better arguable better than anyone on team
5.) mark finally got minures …and he must keep getting 25 minutes a game at the expense of Jmike (who just can’t get his shot off unless a rotational three )
If we had to be 6-6, it should have been pkaying Dortch , mark, powers , nuwuki and even grant more minutes …they would be further along …..
now we are going to big ten season …and we just are not going to win big ten game with Buchannan, Jmike ,
Ogoble gettong carve out. Ditto badalau , who will get massively chewed up . Zrno can get a few minutes as a spot up shooter off the bench
Play the frosh and sooh …and go through the growing pains
Agree with you on the Rucker Park analogy. These guys (mostly) play rec league bb. No discipline, dribble drive shoot and miss, poor shooting overall, lack of rebounding.
Blow the stack on them? Collectively what are they worth? 2.5 million? Still plenty of money leftover for other position groups. Our RB is pretty special as well.
Thanks for proving my point, having a high level offensive line sure would be nice to pair with those 3 NFL caliber players. Almost like you could achieve that by allocating the funds differently.
First, I grew up on R Hoops, I would hardly consider myself a casual fan.
Second, this is big business, and it's time to stop pretending it's not. Mind you, I also posted a couple weeks ago that I would be okay with Hoops pulling additional funds from football IF they committed to an actual well known winning HC.
I just acknowledge that in it's current form, you're better off taking the allocated rev share and putting it towards something that you believe has a pulse at minimum.
I do not think putting 3.5-4 million into this program next season is a smart decision. That money could be used to build a very strong OL or DL which would have a far bigger impact on Rutgers than anything happening in hoops right now.
Unless you're telling me we're moving on from an assistant coach and bringing in a real offensive game plan, and we're moving on from the 5-7 player freshman classes and landing bigger, older portal players who fit the specific system.
I totally disagree with your sentiment. A) I don’t think you starve a coach. It’s a bad look. B) if you give the 3-4 mil to the other guy do you think you’re ever getting it back?
Anywhere from 250K to 1.5M.
Lets call it an additional 3M in rev share you'd be dipping into. Hard to argue it wouldn't have a significant impact.
We'll have to agree to disagree then. Your next coach isn't going to care what you did with NIL and the last guy, he just wants to know what you're going to DO with NIL for him and the position he will be in.
It's not the coach's money. It's the athletic department's money, they will decide how it's spent.
The Athletic Department isn’t going to deprive Basketball of needed funds. Football already gets the bulk of revshare. Any additional needed will have to be donated by fans.
Not asking just know Pike is not coaching here next year. We have begun the HC search.
Especially womens soccer.....Dentist whines incessantly about 18-22 year old women. Quite hysterical
. I do not even post anymore because the world is apparently always going to end.
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And Rucker guys would be better shooters and be more disciplined LOL ? Less ISO? Is there an anti Rucker we don’t know about ?
To be clear, I'm not arguing what I think they will do, I'm arguing what I believe they should do.
Again, if 90% of the fan base and people surrounding Rutgers believe he's a dead man walking and him being here next season is solely because we don't want to pay his buyout, then what are we doing?
We have 20.5 million to spend on athletes next season. Are we really giving a percentage of that away for the sake of being "fair." Would be a foolish decision IMO. At minimum give football an extra million and go buy a difference maker for next season.
Too many people are worried about being "nice." This isn't personal, it's business.
They'd be more athletic and play much better 1v1 defense. Better rebounders. They'd run up and down the court on offense. They'd just be better.
I believe we now have a competent Athletic Department. There will be 2500-4000 fans in the seats by mid January. Coming off the biggest failure in college basketball last year.
By Mid - End of January the rumors will start on line and in print. Early-Mid February the names will be leaked. Gain interest in behind the scenes dialogue.
I agree the buyout is also money we don’t have to spend but not really anyone wants to invest in Pike, it’s like burning money.
Exactly. In the corporate world, Pike would have been bought out long ago. 3.5 million per year for this shiit product is absurd.
In the corporate world, Pike would have had the resources to retain Cliff, Mag, and Spencer. But this is Rutgers where people have unrealistic expectations of success, without providing the requisite support. That won’t fly any more. People have to pony up, or be content with mediocre seasons or worse.