Cam Spencer

Plum Street

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He’s a rutgers graduate playing in the final 4
Has that ever happened ?? I know we had Rutgers undergrads play in final 4
 

RUnTeX

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Did he actually graduate from Rutgers?
I believe one just has to complete the final 30 credits (basically two 15-credit semesters which is an average course load, five 3-credit classes per semester) to be awarded a bachelor's degree by Rutgers. I would assume Spencer accomplished that as a 4th year student and had sufficient transfer credits (90) from Loyola to achieve the 120 total credits needed.
 
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MADHAT1

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Yes. A rutgers grad playing in the final 4. I don’t think has happened before and would be a historic moment

He is playing In the final 4 on his birthday actually
I wonder if Loyola of Maryland had players that were stars on any their teams play in the final 4 ,except for Cam who played his first 3 years of college ball there..
 

MADHAT1

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Happy for him, he made the right choice for him. Appreciate the year we had him, he keyed some big wins. No doubt UConn was a better place for him this season.
Cam is a product of the system, a mercenary that helps the program he's at until he sees better opportunity elsewhere.
Now a days when someone transfers to a program they are accepted by that program's fans and the fans of the program the player eft aren't happy about it, tough luck is thought by that players new fanbase.
Then when he goes to the portal to find a better opportunity and takes it, the fans cry foul.
Tough luck on that because he proved in coming he would leave a program if he thought leaving it for another would help his basketball career.
But don't blame the player , it's the system's fault, that player is just using the (mercenary) system to find his best deal as a player.
 

bethlehemfan

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Cam is a product of the system, a mercenary that helps the program he's at until he sees better opportunity elsewhere.
Now a days when someone transfers to a program they are accepted by that program's fans and the fans of the program the player eft aren't happy about it, tough luck is thought by that players new fanbase.
Then when he goes to the portal to find a better opportunity and takes it, the fans cry foul.
Tough luck on that because he proved in coming he would leave a program if he thought leaving it for another would help his basketball career.
But don't blame the player , it's the system's fault, that player is just using the (mercenary) system to find his best deal as a player.
💯 ^^^
 

mikeyoc

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Cam is a product of the system, a mercenary that helps the program he's at until he sees better opportunity elsewhere.
Now a days when someone transfers to a program they are accepted by that program's fans and the fans of the program the player eft aren't happy about it, tough luck is thought by that players new fanbase.
Then when he goes to the portal to find a better opportunity and takes it, the fans cry foul.
Tough luck on that because he proved in coming he would leave a program if he thought leaving it for another would help his basketball career.
But don't blame the player , it's the system's fault, that player is just using the (mercenary) system to find his best deal as a player.
Yep. It's the free market system at work. Not always perfect, but it's better than the alternative
 

Shelby65

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Cam is a product of the system, a mercenary that helps the program he's at until he sees better opportunity elsewhere.
Now a days when someone transfers to a program they are accepted by that program's fans and the fans of the program the player eft aren't happy about it, tough luck is thought by that players new fanbase.
Then when he goes to the portal to find a better opportunity and takes it, the fans cry foul.
Tough luck on that because he proved in coming he would leave a program if he thought leaving it for another would help his basketball career.
But don't blame the player , it's the system's fault, that player is just using the (mercenary) system to find his best deal as a player.
But no one here has any ill will toward JWill of course.
 
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Shelby65

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Did JWill tell his team/coach he was staying then decided to transfer after the portal closed?

If he had left honorably I wouldn't have an issue with him leaving.

He did not. So, like @chrism25 , Cam is dead to me.
Honorably ? Hahahahaha,

Not Cam’s problem, as you know. What’s dishonorable about following rules he’s entitled to follow? You can dislike him, but you can’t blame him.

Not that it matters, but there were other grad transfers Pike had the opportunity to get after Cam left but didn’t. Is that Cam’s fault too ?
 

Retired711

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As a grad transfer, he had the right to leave after the portal had closed. *If* you believe Politi, he got a money offer that he felt he just couldn't turn down. That's the way things will continue to work until something is done to prevent NIL from being used to induce players to come to or stay at a school. Each can decide for him or herself, but I find it hard to blame him for his decision.

https://www.nj.com/rutgersbasketbal...e-cam-spencer-for-taking-nil-cash-politi.html
 

Knight Shift

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Cam is a product of the system, a mercenary that helps the program he's at until he sees better opportunity elsewhere.
Now a days when someone transfers to a program they are accepted by that program's fans and the fans of the program the player eft aren't happy about it, tough luck is thought by that players new fanbase.
Then when he goes to the portal to find a better opportunity and takes it, the fans cry foul.
Tough luck on that because he proved in coming he would leave a program if he thought leaving it for another would help his basketball career.
But don't blame the player , it's the system's fault, that player is just using the (mercenary) system to find his best deal as a player.
Yup. Don't hate the player, hate the game. He gave us a good year.
 

MADHAT1

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Don't recall seeing a link? And NYT is paywalled. So we can just imagine the article.
think it's this one retired posted
"As a grad transfer, he had the right to leave after the portal had closed. *If* you believe Politi, he got a money offer that he felt he just couldn't turn down. That's the way things will continue to work until something is done to prevent NIL from being used to induce players to come to or stay at a school. Each can decide for him or herself, but I find it hard to blame him for his decision."

https://www.nj.com/rutgersbasketbal...e-cam-spencer-for-taking-nil-cash-politi.html
 

Retired711

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Here's an excerpt from a March 28 piece in the NYTimes that shows that all of the Sweet Sixteen schools have fan bases that are aggressively providing NIL payments to players.

"The collective that supports the University of Connecticut’s teams, Bleeding Blue for Good, is the rare one that pays out more to men’s and women’s basketball players than it does to football players, according to its president, John Malfettone, who declined to disclose figures. A commercial for Bleeding Blue for Good, featuring UConn basketball players and encouraging donations, aired before the men’s tournament opener. Another way the collective raises money is by selling basketballs autographed by last year’s national championship men’s team — for $500 a pop. The collective pays players to teach at youth basketball camps and work with state charities."

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive...march-madness-nil.html?searchResultPosition=1
 
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RU MAN

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I understand that Cam was only offered UCONN in June, when Nicholas Timberlake chose not to go to UCONN and instead went to Kansas. Just imagine if Timberlake went to UCONN and Cam stayed here. I think we would have made at least the NIT tourney, if not the bubble of the NCAA's. Also, I have no animosity towards him. He did what was right for him and for his future. Now, he may become an NBA second rounder.
 

bethlehemfan

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Didn’t root against Danthay , didn’t root against Todd , didn’t root against Mike or Greg.

But I’ll root for whoever is playing UConn because cam

It’s not that he left ….it’s how and when he left …..
I don’t blame him. Blame the system. Everything moved fast with these rules breaking down and nil.
 

RedTeamUpstream94

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Did JWill tell his team/coach he was staying then decided to transfer after the portal closed?

If he had left honorably I wouldn't have an issue with him leaving.

He did not. So, like @chrism25 , Cam is dead to me.

People don’t seem to get this

I’ll use an example of a player that everyone WANTED to stay but when he did transfer literally NO ONE had an issue with him …. Myles.

In fact he got a really nice reception when he returned

It’s not nearly as simple as “transfer-in= good. Transfer-out=bad”

The WAY Spencer did it really f’ed RU. So for that the kid can suck it.

Heck - even the reaction to Gavin is mixed. Sure he’s getting grief (due to his own words “I will never transfer”) from some, but I think the balance appreciate that he did it right away which gives pike the ability to find a replacement. So besides going against his own words Gavin did nothing wrong .

Cam? He can suck it.

Why can’t some people understand this?
 

runrutgersrun

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People don’t seem to get this

I’ll use an example of a player that everyone WANTED to stay but when he did transfer literally NO ONE had an issue with him …. Myles.

In fact he got a really nice reception when he returned

It’s not nearly as simple as “transfer-in= good. Transfer-out=bad”

The WAY Spencer did it really f’ed RU. So for that the kid can suck it.

Heck - even the reaction to Gavin is mixed. Sure he’s getting grief (due to his own words “I will never transfer”) from some, but I think the balance appreciate that he did it right away which gives pike the ability to find a replacement. So besides going against his own words Gavin did nothing wrong .

Cam? He can suck it.

Why can’t some people understand this?
Have to agree with this ∆∆∆. Even though I was generally a big fan of Paul Mulcahy's, and he played four years here, I have ended up feeling much the same about him as I feel about Spencer. There is, or should be, something to be said about HOW something is done, not just WHAT was done. However, me feeling like this just shows how dumb I am thinking ethics matters at all anymore. Go RU!
 

ru66

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Get them all to sign contracts and maybe follow non compete rules,,,,( thats hard to do) like real pros. Make them pay taxes and follow all the " rules" that " srew" us all. But geez put in some controls.
 

bethlehemfan

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Have to agree with this ∆∆∆. Even though I was generally a big fan of Paul Mulcahy's, and he played four years here, I have ended up feeling much the same about him as I feel about Spencer. There is, or should be, something to be said about HOW something is done, not just WHAT was done. However, me feeling like this just shows how dumb I am thinking ethics matters at all anymore. Go RU!
Do what’s right always and let the chips fall where they may. Fewer and fewer seem to live that way.
 
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Plum Street

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I wonder if Loyola of Maryland had players that were stars on any their teams play in the final 4 ,except for Cam who played his first 3 years of college ball there..
I guess cool for loyola. As a Rutgers fan, I am really only focused on the Rutgers angle of a graduate playing in the final 4 for a former Rutgers coach . Pretty cool
 
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