Well this one really stinks.
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Cam Jones Is Gone
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Academics. If I was a betting man, he will end up at a JUCO next year
At least now their will be no more confusion with Cam Taylor.
Seems like every recruit in the 2018 class has had injuries already. As well as most of the recruits that enrolled early this spring. Kind of concerning.
Frost is clearing roster space like a boss. Better to get the kids on a path where they have the best chance of success.
Reading things that hint about issues with grades makes me wonder. (Not saying this is or is not relevant to Cam Jones but a question)
How can any football player at Nebraska have issues with grades that does not lead back to the player just making really bad choices?
They get tutors for every class. These tutors help them with everything except taking the test for them. If you are not making it in the class room its either one of two things:
1- the player is so mentally deficient either by natural selection or your education failed you mightily from K-12 grades. ( if this is the case then the player isn't smart enough to learn football anyway)
2- You make really bad choices (skip classes, tutor sessions, don't turn in assignments, etc.)
In both or either case would you really want the player on your team?
Best of luck to all the kids who transfer out.
How can any football player at Nebraska have issues with grades that does not lead back to the player just making really bad choices?
They get tutors for every class. These tutors help them with everything except taking the test for them. If you are not making it in the class room its either one of two things:
1- the player is so mentally deficient either by natural selection or your education failed you mightily from K-12 grades. ( if this is the case then the player isn't smart enough to learn football anyway)
2- You make really bad choices (skip classes, tutor sessions, don't turn in assignments, etc.)
In both or either case would you really want the player on your team?
Best of luck to all the kids who transfer out.
I’ve also heard he was lazy and didn’t take advantage of the resources available to him.
One other situation I can think of is, say a guy had his heart on being a doctor and takes a bunch of biology and calculus. Even with all the tutors and support he just doesn't have the background or smarts for these types of classes, but won't give up his dream because he wants to be a doctor. I doubt that is the case here, but I'm answering your question of how someone can get in trouble even with the support available.
The only thing I can think is that there are some kids that get into college, for obvious reasons, that really don't have the basics of reading/writing down.
I have taught kids that were 13 and 14 that couldn't read or would take 10 minutes to get through a paragraph.
I would say that a vast majority of issues like this are related to kids just not doing what they need to do in the classroom and using the resources available.
When reason between the lines that’s exactly what it is. Says he missed majority of summer camp due to academic issues and now he’s looking to transfer....yep, I’m predicting a Juco route on its way there. But I agree, sucks to see this happen, I really assumed he’d have a great career for us. Nice thing is we still have plenty of DB talent now and coming in...definitely feel good about Pola-Gates.
That’s one way to spin it, and would make sense if this wasn’t a guy Frost just signed and brought in like 10 months ago.
So Frost signed a kid and for reasons on and off the field, it didn't work out. Cam wasn't going to be able to help the team on the field. Swings and misses are going to happen in every class. So managing roster spots in an ongoing thing, and was something that wasn't done particularly well by the prior two coaching staffs.
Our staff had a very short time to put a class together so some of these guys were a reach.. Hell, most of Bo's classes were busts and even the Callahan '05 class (greatest class to date) even had half of them not pan out.
It will take at least 2 more recruiting classes to get this machine where it needs to be.
It will take at least 2 more recruiting classes to get this machine where it needs to be.
I feel badly for him and others in this situation. I hope they find spaces to thrive and be happy.
That said, aggressive (fast execution, upper echelon targets, strategically turning the roster, etc.) “hiring” requires aggressive “firing.” As long as you do both, you are going to thrive. Doing the former well but not the latter (happens a LOT!)...not so much.
About how many hours per week does a NU football player spend in practices, team meetings, playbook study, and other football-related functions?
Saw a stat that basically 50% of 5 stars go pro, 20% of 4 stars and 5% of 3 stars and 1% of unranked. Translate that to players who bust at the ncaa level is pretty high, no matter the stars coming in. I wish he would have been given more time to turn things around, but I trust Frost and Co to be able to evaluate players and realize which ones have potential and which ones don't. Plus if the grades/ smarts thing was the main issue. Odds are he wasn't going to be able to pick things up like he should anyways.
I was thinking the exact same thing. Im guessing if they could do it over again and have the normal amount of time they may have not brought in some of these guys. They took a chance to fill a class quickly and some are not going to work out.
Sounds like there were circumstances that weren't good for Cam before he got here and that is unfortunate. Would imagine the determination was that the academics were not salvageable for him. Hopefully he can get things sorted out.
Maybe Juco route, get his stuff figured out and return either here or somewhere else.
Have you seen some of the posts by posters on this board? I assume some are “functioning” adults. Functioning is the debatable keyword.
The amount of effort that goes into helping those kids succeed in class and in life is STAGGERING. There's an entire staff of people whose job it is to help players with academic stuff that most other students are pretty much expected to figure out on their own.
If they can't make good enough grades to stay eligible it's nobody's fault but their own.
I bitterly hate seeing 4* kids flame out but I can't say I have a problem with Frost showing the whole team that guys who don't show up to class will be given a one-way ticket to somewhere else. It's not like they're asking for a 4.0 GPA.
Probably about the same as a kid who has to pay their way through school spends at work.
My freshman year at Lincoln I was friends with (because we were on the same floor...Abel 11) and the dudes on the team would be gone from 6am until 8 or 9 at night for football stuff. Now, I am sure a lot of that time was just hanging out and goofing around but they seemed to be gone a lot...
Then again I was playing a lot Sega Genesis so I probably didn't always know what was going on.
There versus their, will be no more confusionAt least now their will be no more confusion with Cam Taylor.
My friend's daughter just sent him a video of one of our prominent players in her class. While the teacher is lecturing, he has his headphones on, music turned up and is sitting in his chair flailing his arms and legs dancing in his seat. He acts about 3 years old. Oblivious to the class and a serious distraction to everyone else in the room. It is embarrassing watching him. So yah, bad choices even under Frost.
Unfortunate. During a lecture I was presenting at the college level I asked a student to either stop their distractive behavior or leave the room. I expect adult behavior from students attending college; I do not care their age.
Unfortunately some people don't value their education as much as some of us who had to give up something to get it. I never saw a kid screw around in college who actually had to write the tuition check. It was always the ones with mommie and daddie paying all the bills. IF I were one of his teammates, there would be some serious peer pressure applied to fly right.
As a TA I had a student answer a phone call in the middle of class. I told him to hang up his damn phone or leave class. It was a 450 seat lecture hall, and had I not been sitting toward the back I wouldn't have noticed it. A lot of stuff goes on back there that is a distraction to the students around them but may be imperceptible to those near the front of the room. If I've learned one thing in my years of TA'ing, it's that serious students don't sit in the back of those classes. It is filled with people on their phones, watching Youtube, Instagram, or whatever the flavor of the day is on the internet.