Calipari guesses five is minimum leaving

[SniperCat]

@KyleTucker_CJ
Calipari guesses five is minimum leaving but "seven is a distinct possibility." And "I hope they surprise me like last year."

This post was edited on 4/6 12:45 PM by SniperCat

 

[akaukswoosh]

I'd love to hang on to Booker but with an NBA dad he's got it in his blood. Fingers crossed he stays one more.

 

[BillionthUKFan_rivals209596]

Yeah, he basically said our entire starting five are expected to leave and that Devin and Dakari are still up in the air. He is also getting info together for AP just in case he wants to go. No mention of Lee, but he did say he doesn't think there will be anyone that transfers.

 

[KA4Prez_rivals78700]

So, best case scenario...

Ulis
Booker
Poythress
Lee
Johnson
Hawkins
Willis
Briscoe
Matthews
Labissiere

 

[Dreklie]

I don't get it ... at ANY other school Booker and Dakari are LOCKS to come back, but just because it's UK they get drafted? wtf? Even the Harrisons would be up in the air about returning to any other school in the country ...

 

[reignof cats]

Originally posted by KA4Prez:
So, best case scenario...

Ulis
Booker
Poythress
Lee
Johnson
Hawkins
Willis
Briscoe
Matthews
Labissiere


+

Jaylen Brown or Brandon Ingram
Malik Newman
Any Big

GBB

This post was edited on 4/6 12:53 PM by reignof cats

 

[KA4Prez_rivals78700]

Originally posted by reignof cats:

Originally posted by KA4Prez:
So, best case scenario...

Ulis
Booker
Poythress
Lee
Johnson
Hawkins
Willis
Briscoe
Matthews
Labissiere

Jaylen Brown or Brandon Ingram
Malik Newman
Any Big

GBB

I'm just talking about currently. Obviously there are still a few big time recruits.

 

[UofKBlue]

Originally posted by reignof cats:

Originally posted by KA4Prez:
So, best case scenario...

Ulis
Booker
Poythress
Lee
Johnson
Hawkins
Willis
Briscoe
Matthews
Labissiere


+

Jaylen Brown or Brandon Ingram
Malik Newman
Any Big

GBB

This post was edited on 4/6 12:53 PM by reignof cats

Brown will not end up at Kentucky and Ingram is likely headed to a Carolina school.

Newman is almost a guarantee at this point assuming the Twins leave.

 

[richbrookstomato]

Originally posted by reignof cats:

Originally posted by KA4Prez:
So, best case scenario...

Ulis
Booker
Poythress
Lee
Johnson
Hawkins
Willis
Briscoe
Matthews
Labissiere


+

Jaylen Brown or Brandon Ingram
Malik Newman
Any Big

GBB

This post was edited on 4/6 12:53 PM by reignof cats

If Booker stays we won't get Newman and If Dakari stays we won't get a Big. Ingram is a better possibility than Brown. JMHO.

 

[*Bleedingblue*]

Booker may be a little more difficult to replace as he is a decent player and will have another year under his belt. I think Dakari could be replaced and you wouldn't know he is gone. Hate to say it about Dakari but it's true. In most situations he was a liability, but I hope he he gets drafted and has a long nba career.

 

[wildcatsboston1984_rivals]

nm
This post was edited on 4/6 1:09 PM by wildcatsboston1984

 

[AnarchoNeoLuddite_rivals]

We may indeed need Wynyard to arrive early on campus just to have depth. Going to be intersting the next few weeks to see how we shake out next year...

 

[coolcat9lives]

Been looking at a lot of mock drafts. Booker and Lyles are only projected in the lottery one time a piece. Mostly mid-late first round. Do they really leave is that is their true projection? Both of those guys are shoe-in lottery selections with another year under their belts. Seems logical to stay and increase the payday.

 

[gossie21_rivals69805]

Originally posted by Dreklie:
I don't get it ... at ANY other school Booker and Dakari are LOCKS to come back, but just because it's UK they get drafted? wtf? Even the Harrisons would be up in the air about returning to any other school in the country ...

Because kids come to UK for the express purpose of getting to the NBA as quickly as possible. We have to embrace that. Dakari really wanted to leave last year, and probably should have for draft stock purposes. I don't think he really stands to improve his draft position by coming back, unless he somehow improves his coordination and athleticism dramatically.

Booker and Lyles both stand to improve their draft stock by coming back. But you can't really argue against them leaving early either. Lyles had a strong end of the season and could go anywhere from top-10 to as low as 20th in the first round. If he comes back, he could possibly go top-5.... but there's no guarantee. Booker is in a similar position a strong and consistent sophomore season could vault him into the top-10. His floor is much lower this year. He is still riding the early year perception to put him in the mid-teens on draft boards. Once NBA scouts start breaking down his numbers and his film on defense, he could fall out of the 1st round if he comes out now.

....But, all of the kids that come to UK, come because they want to play in the NBA. And they want to get there as quickly as possible. That's not a bad thing, it has brought a multitude of extremely talented players through our program and 4 final fours and one title. We just have to accept that these kids aren't going to base their decisions on what's best for the team, or even what might happen next season to improve their stock. They want the cash and the prestige of playing (or sitting the bench) in the NBA.

 

[Son_Of_Saul]

Originally posted by catben:

Originally posted by reignof cats:

Originally posted by KA4Prez:
So, best case scenario...

Ulis
Booker
Poythress
Lee
Johnson
Hawkins
Willis
Briscoe
Matthews
Labissiere




+

Jaylen Brown or Brandon Ingram
Malik Newman
Any Big

GBB


This post was edited on 4/6 12:53 PM by reignof cats

If Booker stays we won't get Newman and If Dakari stays we won't get a Big. Ingram is a better possibility than Brown. JMHO.

Not true.


Newman at the 2, Booker a the 3.


See how that works?

 

[mg721]

Originally posted by Dreklie:
I don't get it ... at ANY other school Booker and Dakari are LOCKS to come back, but just because it's UK they get drafted? wtf? Even the Harrisons would be up in the air about returning to any other school in the country ...

That is the other side of the double edge sward that is "the Calapari effect". He has created this monster, and we have greatly benefited from it, but I think most of the kids he recruits feel like failures if they aren't one and done.

 

[kentucky_wildcat_#1]

Originally posted by catben:

Originally posted by reignof cats:

Originally posted by KA4Prez:
So, best case scenario...

Ulis
Booker
Poythress
Lee
Johnson
Hawkins
Willis
Briscoe
Matthews
Labissiere


+

Jaylen Brown or Brandon Ingram
Malik Newman
Any Big

GBB

This post was edited on 4/6 12:53 PM by reignof cats

If Booker stays we won't get Newman and If Dakari stays we won't get a Big. Ingram is a better possibility than Brown. JMHO.

That just doesn't make any sense. Booker can easily play the 3 and Newman the 2. Newman is waiting on the twins. Newman's playing time depends on the twins. I don't know about Brown or Ingram, but i'm sure Newman will be playing for the cats next season. It would be nice to land that elite atheletic 3 we have been missing on lately, but if not, i guess we'll survive.

 

[jarms24]

Originally posted by Son_Of_Saul:

Not true.


Newman at the 2, Booker a the 3.


See how that works?

THIS, the 3 and 2 are interchangeable in Cal's system. If anything, Newman is going to slash and Booker is going to linger on the perimeter. I'd love to see this happen.

 

[JayCatz44]

Originally posted by Son_Of_Saul:

Originally posted by catben:

Originally posted by reignof cats:

Originally posted by KA4Prez:
So, best case scenario...

Ulis
Booker
Poythress
Lee
Johnson
Hawkins
Willis
Briscoe
Matthews
Labissiere




+

Jaylen Brown or Brandon Ingram
Malik Newman
Any Big

GBB


This post was edited on 4/6 12:53 PM by reignof cats

If Booker stays we won't get Newman and If Dakari stays we won't get a Big. Ingram is a better possibility than Brown. JMHO.

Not true.


Newman at the 2, Booker a the 3.


See how that works?

If you read on the HOB then it would make more sense. Newman will be here more likely but only if Booker is gone. Also, neither Brown nor Ingram are coming to UK.

 

[JonathanW_rivals]

Originally posted by Dreklie:
I don't get it ... at ANY other school Booker and Dakari are LOCKS to come back, but just because it's UK they get drafted? wtf? Even the Harrisons would be up in the air about returning to any other school in the country ...

Dakari is a 2nd round pick. So if he leaves, it is simply because he wants to be in the league asap.
As for Booker, I think if he leaves, hid dad will be a big reason for that.
People say player-name "isn't ready". That is irrelevant! The question really is, "is the player draftable" and "can he go in the first round" for guaranteed money! Sure Booker & Lyles & others have parts of their game they need to work on to be able to succeed in the NBA, but whether they develop those in UK, in the D-league, or on an NBA bench doesn't really matter (except they get paid in the NBA, barely paid in the D-league, or not paid but closer to a degree at UK).

I think one reason players come to UK & Cal right now is that they trust him, and that if won't be selfish and try to convince them to stay when it might not be in their best interest. So Cal is getting the guys who might have more of an eye-for-early-exit more than other players.

 

[bssparks]

Originally posted by kentucky_wildcat_#1:

Originally posted by catben:

Originally posted by reignof cats:

Originally posted by KA4Prez:
So, best case scenario...

Ulis
Booker
Poythress
Lee
Johnson
Hawkins
Willis
Briscoe
Matthews
Labissiere




+

Jaylen Brown or Brandon Ingram
Malik Newman
Any Big

GBB


This post was edited on 4/6 12:53 PM by reignof cats

If Booker stays we won't get Newman and If Dakari stays we won't get a Big. Ingram is a better possibility than Brown. JMHO.

That just doesn't make any sense. Booker can easily play the 3 and Newman the 2. Newman is waiting on the twins. Newman's playing time depends on the twins. I don't know about Brown or Ingram, but i'm sure Newman will be playing for the cats next season. It would be nice to land that elite atheletic 3 we have been missing on lately, but if not, i guess we'll survive.

Matthews can play the 3 if needed I'm sure.

 

[BoulderCat_rivals187983]

I'll guess to that would be Willie, Karl, Aaron, Andrew, and Trey. Many of you will think me foolish, but I still hold some hope Trey, and Karl will return. Karl has a desire to be a doctor. He needs some more school if he really wants to make that dream come true someday. I also think Trey and Devin could use another year. I don't care what Twitter, Cal, or anyone else says I'll continue to hold out hope until each of our guys definitely declares one way or the other. It'll all be decided in 3 weeks or less.

 

[bookerfan66]

If we lose 7 it's going to be a rough season.Even with good recruits I don't see us competing for a championship.

 

[WayneDougan_rivals170043]

Originally posted by BoulderCat:

I'll guess to that would be Willie, Karl, Aaron, Andrew, and Trey. Many of you will think me foolish, but I still hold some hope Trey, and Karl will return. Karl has a desire to be a doctor. He needs some more school if he really wants to make that dream come true someday. I also think Trey and Devin could use another year. I don't care what Twitter, Cal, or anyone else says I'll continue to hold out hope until each of our guys definitely declares one way or the other. It'll all be decided in 3 weeks or less.

If Karl towns is a lock to be a #1 and he decides to come back, he wouldn't be a very good doctor.

 

[BBallin23]

Originally posted by catben:

Originally posted by reignof cats:

Originally posted by KA4Prez:
So, best case scenario...

Ulis
Booker
Poythress
Lee
Johnson
Hawkins
Willis
Briscoe
Matthews
Labissiere




+

Jaylen Brown or Brandon Ingram
Malik Newman
Any Big

GBB


This post was edited on 4/6 12:53 PM by reignof cats

If Booker stays we won't get Newman and If Dakari stays we won't get a Big. Ingram is a better possibility than Brown. JMHO.

WRONG. Zimmerman will take Willies place and Newman will take Lyles spot.

 

[BoulderCat_rivals187983]

Originally posted by WayneDougan:

Originally posted by BoulderCat:

I'll guess to that would be Willie, Karl, Aaron, Andrew, and Trey. Many of you will think me foolish, but I still hold some hope Trey, and Karl will return. Karl has a desire to be a doctor. He needs some more school if he really wants to make that dream come true someday. I also think Trey and Devin could use another year. I don't care what Twitter, Cal, or anyone else says I'll continue to hold out hope until each of our guys definitely declares one way or the other. It'll all be decided in 3 weeks or less.

If Karl towns is a lock to be a #1 and he decides to come back, he wouldn't be a very good doctor.

I'm sure you noted I listed Karl. Just saying I won't be as totally shocked as most if he did come back. I'm certainly not expecting him to though.

 

[kentucky_wildcat_#1]

Originally posted by BoulderCat:

I'll guess to that would be Willie, Karl, Aaron, Andrew, and Trey. Many of you will think me foolish, but I still hold some hope Trey, and Karl will return. Karl has a desire to be a doctor. He needs some more school if he really wants to make that dream come true someday. I also think Trey and Devin could use another year. I don't care what Twitter, Cal, or anyone else says I'll continue to hold out hope until each of our guys definitely declares one way or the other. It'll all be decided in 3 weeks or less.

The thing is, if he really wants to be a doctor, entering the nba draft and making millions of dollars won't hurt that desire at all. He can always come back to school and finish up after his playing days are over. I would rather be in college as a millionare than not. Kat is too good to be playing college ball and doesn't get the respect he deserves from college refs. I think it would be a headache for him to come back and have to deal with the bs calls the refts call on him.

 

[Teachable Moe]

Originally posted by kentucky_wildcat_#1:

Originally posted by BoulderCat:

I'll guess to that would be Willie, Karl, Aaron, Andrew, and Trey. Many of you will think me foolish, but I still hold some hope Trey, and Karl will return. Karl has a desire to be a doctor. He needs some more school if he really wants to make that dream come true someday. I also think Trey and Devin could use another year. I don't care what Twitter, Cal, or anyone else says I'll continue to hold out hope until each of our guys definitely declares one way or the other. It'll all be decided in 3 weeks or less.

The thing is, if he really wants to be a doctor, entering the nba draft and making millions of dollars won't hurt that desire at all. He can always come back to school and finish up after his playing days are over. I would rather be in college as a millionare than not. Kat is too good to be playing college ball and doesn't get the respect he deserves from college refs. I think it would be a headache for him to come back and have to deal with the bs calls the refts call on him.

I've heard he's really smart. I wonder if "Do you switch on the pick and roll?" is on the MCATs.

 

[jes95407]

Originally posted by kentucky_wildcat_#1:

Originally posted by BoulderCat:

I'll guess to that would be Willie, Karl, Aaron, Andrew, and Trey. Many of you will think me foolish, but I still hold some hope Trey, and Karl will return. Karl has a desire to be a doctor. He needs some more school if he really wants to make that dream come true someday. I also think Trey and Devin could use another year. I don't care what Twitter, Cal, or anyone else says I'll continue to hold out hope until each of our guys definitely declares one way or the other. It'll all be decided in 3 weeks or less.

The thing is, if he really wants to be a doctor, entering the nba draft and making millions of dollars won't hurt that desire at all. He can always come back to school and finish up after his playing days are over. I would rather be in college as a millionare than not. Kat is too good to be playing college ball and doesn't get the respect he deserves from college refs. I think it would be a headache for him to come back and have to deal with the bs calls the refts call on him.

You realize what type of sacrifice goes into med school? Id imagine the two (NBA/MD) can't coexist unless you're "Dr. J."

With that being said, He's such a great kid, I wish Karl the best with whatever he choses but realistically its going to be either/or.

 

[SilentsAreGolden]

Originally posted by JayCatz44:

Originally posted by Son_Of_Saul:

Originally posted by catben:

Originally posted by reignof cats:

Originally posted by KA4Prez:
So, best case scenario...

Ulis
Booker
Poythress
Lee
Johnson
Hawkins
Willis
Briscoe
Matthews
Labissiere




+

Jaylen Brown or Brandon Ingram
Malik Newman
Any Big

GBB


This post was edited on 4/6 12:53 PM by reignof cats

If Booker stays we won't get Newman and If Dakari stays we won't get a Big. Ingram is a better possibility than Brown. JMHO.

Not true.


Newman at the 2, Booker a the 3.


See how that works?

If you read on the HOB then it would make more sense. Newman will be here more likely but only if Booker is gone. Also, neither Brown nor Ingram are coming to UK..

Damn, Cal must have terrible information since he's having a visit with him. Wish Cal knew how to recruit.

This post was edited on 4/6 3:50 PM by SilentsAreGolden

 

[richbrookstomato]

Newman wants to be "The Man" or the scoring option if he comes here. This is why I believe he won't come if Booker returns.

Zimmerman also doesn't want to share time in the post with Dakari. It would surprise me if he came if Dakari stays.

Brown has stated that he also wants to be "The Man". Hard to do that with Newman or Booker here.

Ingram has drawn late, but heavy, interest from Cal. Don't know how much he wants to be here, but we definitely need a big 3.
Originally posted by JayCatz44:

Originally posted by Son_Of_Saul:

Originally posted by catben:

Originally posted by reignof cats:

Originally posted by KA4Prez:
So, best case scenario...

Ulis
Booker
Poythress
Lee
Johnson
Hawkins
Willis
Briscoe
Matthews
Labissiere




+

Jaylen Brown or Brandon Ingram
Malik Newman
Any Big

GBB


This post was edited on 4/6 12:53 PM by reignof cats

If Booker stays we won't get Newman and If Dakari stays we won't get a Big. Ingram is a better possibility than Brown. JMHO.

Not true.


Newman at the 2, Booker a the 3.


See how that works?

If you read on the HOB then it would make more sense. Newman will be here more likely but only if Booker is gone. Also, neither Brown nor Ingram are coming to UK.

 

[We-Todd-Did]

The only one I see improving stock by coming back is Booker. It's not because he isn't skilled enough now but because he has the potential to just scorch some people if he gets more minutes. I love watching his shot and hope he comes back for ours, and sportscenter's sake.

 

[Seth C]

Originally posted by Dreklie:
I don't get it ... at ANY other school Booker and Dakari are LOCKS to come back, but just because it's UK they get drafted? wtf? Even the Harrisons would be up in the air about returning to any other school in the country ...

Players like the twins, we get them BECAUSE they want to get to the league as fast as possible. Otherwise they might have played elsewhere. So what you said isn't surprising at all, given that. Had they intended to stay longer they might not have been here at all.