Bryce Thompson

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Does Bossi purposefully target these questions? He asks about Boyton and Kruger. They even mention Kim English being at Tulsa prior to Colorado.

If Kruger can be talking to Bryce every week why isn't Frank?
 

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Does Bossi purposefully target these questions? He asks about Boyton and Kruger. They even mention Kim English being at Tulsa prior to Colorado.

If Kruger can be talking to Bryce every week why isn't Frank?

Because he is an evil awful devil of a coach that has no business being in the business.
#amirightamiright
 
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lawpoke87

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I assume TU is talking to Bryce (if they still think they're in the running) as much as Kruger or Boynton or anyone else. I've felt to awhile that Bryce was headed elsewhere. Not sure where though.
 

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Because he is an evil awful devil of a coach that has no business being in the business.
#amirightamiright
I really wasn't trying to jab Frank as a coach because I don't know his situation with Thompson at the moment. I just hope he's doing all he can to get the kid to TU.
 

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I assume TU is talking to Bryce (if they still think they're in the running) as much as Kruger or Boynton or anyone else. I've felt to awhile that Bryce was headed elsewhere. Not sure where though.

They sure are. If he goes to a bigger school, it won’t be due to the Tulsa staff not recruiting him hard and not showing him the love. Except for Shea (and there were personal reason he signed with TU), Tulsa HS players that are highly rated and recruited like Thompson, go to a bigger, higher profile school.

It has always been difficult to keep those types of players home. Ask Nolan, etc. The size of TU and the conference affiliation have always hurt TU.
 

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You would think legacy would make a difference. It seems to make a difference at many, many universities. But our track record is really horrendous on this front especially in basketball.
 

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They sure are. If he goes to a bigger school, it won’t be due to the Tulsa staff not recruiting him hard and not showing him the love. Except for Shea (and there were personal reason he signed with TU), Tulsa HS players that are highly rated and recruited like Thompson, go to a bigger, higher profile school.

It has always been difficult to keep those types of players home. Ask Nolan, etc. The size of TU and the conference affiliation have always hurt TU.


I don't think conference is as big an issue as it once was. First people make runs from every where and get drafted from every where. Second the current conference is a boon.

While it seems negative to us from the outside we are also trying to read every little sign. The truth is the kid is probably enjoying being recruited, taking trips, looking at schools. Even non recruits enjoy that.

If the staff is smart they don't try and discourage something the kid enjoys but instead are confident and tell him go see the sights. We're right here waiting at home. Your friends, your family, your school.

It's abudently clear they are putting in the work so let the chips fall where they may.

Of course there was nothing about Tulsa, why would they ask? Some people are so misinformed about the school that it would never occur them.

Bryce doesn't need to use an official visit for Tulsa, most people probably don't know about the connection.
 
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They sure are. If he goes to a bigger school, it won’t be due to the Tulsa staff not recruiting him hard and not showing him the love. Except for Shea (and there were personal reason he signed with TU), Tulsa HS players that are highly rated and recruited like Thompson, go to a bigger, higher profile school.

It has always been difficult to keep those types of players home. Ask Nolan, etc. The size of TU and the conference affiliation have always hurt TU.
The conference affiliation shouldn't be an excuse anymore. If Cincy, Houston, SMU, UCF, Memphis, UConn, Temple, WSU can all get highly ranked and recruited players we should be able to as well.

I get that us being smaller makes it tougher... but it's also not everyday that you have an "in" with a highly ranked player like his dad being an alumn and a friend of one of our assistants who just so happens to be a hometown hero who stayed at home and did great things and can shine as an example. If there's one situation where we should actually have a shot with a player... it's this one. This situation won't come again for quite a while. We need to try and make the most of it.

I think it's possible that we are... It's just very quiet in the trenches right now.
 

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Nolan, Tubby & Self would’ve absolutely killed it in recruiting if they could’ve recruited to the AAC. Tubby in particular had a poorly rated MVC to recruit to.

With Haith’s previous coaching stops, his salary & our current conference, his overall recruiting has been below expectations for me.
 

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Nolan, Tubby & Self would’ve absolutely killed it in recruiting if they could’ve recruited to the AAC. Tubby in particular had a poorly rated MVC to recruit to.

With Haith’s previous coaching stops, his salary & our current conference, his overall recruiting has been below expectations for me.


We're a tough place to recruit to, lots of little things here and there to trip on along the path to Tulsa for many players.

I don't worry about rankings, more interested in the performance once they get here. I would say he is doing C+ work, nothing great but nothing really bad either.
 

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The entire OSU coaching staff is watching Bryce and BTW play Sapulpa tonight. They certainly haven’t backed off.
 

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OSU sucks.

I can a kid wanting to spread his wings. Duke for example. Even KU. But we ho wants to go to Stillwater if you have other great options?

We are doing something wrong when we lose smart kids to osu.
 

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In order to recruit, you better have a final 4 pedigree, be a former nba superstar or you Need to inspire great great great confidence

Where is frank here?
 

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OSU sucks.

I can a kid wanting to spread his wings. Duke for example. Even KU. But we ho wants to go to Stillwater if you have other great options?

We are doing something wrong when we lose smart kids to osu.
Next time I will tell you how I really feel!
 

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In order to recruit, you better have a final 4 pedigree, be a former nba superstar or you Need to inspire great great great confidence
?

I think being able to relate to these kids, sell their parents, come across as genuine are also important. Many coaches are good recruiters without possessing those qualities you outlined imo.

Boynton signed a top 15 national class a few weeks ago and picked up a 2020 commit from a top 100 national PG this week. I don’t believe he has any of those qualities. He is however a tireless recruiter and comes across as a very genuine and likeable guy. I think people overthink what it takes to recruit kids at times.

Haith possesses many of those qualities as well. It’s often the case of getting one high profile commitment and then others tend to follow. Bryce could have that effect for TU.
 

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OSU sucks.

I can a kid wanting to spread his wings. Duke for example. Even KU. But we ho wants to go to Stillwater if you have other great options?

We are doing something wrong when we lose smart kids to osu.
Lol this always baffles me. It’s like, do I want to go to French Laundry or TGI Friday’s. How can that be the choice? These are young people who have no clue what they want or are making trade offs that don’t make much sense to me.
 

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They sure are. If he goes to a bigger school, it won’t be due to the Tulsa staff not recruiting him hard and not showing him the love. Except for Shea (and there were personal reason he signed with TU), Tulsa HS players that are highly rated and recruited like Thompson, go to a bigger, higher profile school.

It has always been difficult to keep those types of players home. Ask Nolan, etc. The size of TU and the conference affiliation have always hurt TU.
Nothing quite as nice when Billy Tubbs and Wayman came to town to play Nolan’s Tulsa team and watch Tubbs make a complete *** of himself in the Civic Center .
 

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They sure are. If he goes to a bigger school, it won’t be due to the Tulsa staff not recruiting him hard and not showing him the love. Except for Shea (and there were personal reason he signed with TU), Tulsa HS players that are highly rated and recruited like Thompson, go to a bigger, higher profile school.

It has always been difficult to keep those types of players home. Ask Nolan, etc. The size of TU and the conference affiliation have always hurt TU.
Nothing quite as nice when Billy Tubbs and Wayman came to town to play Nolan’s Tulsa team and watch Tubbs make a complete *** of himself in the Civic Center .
My favorite sports event of all time was attending that game.
 
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Bryce was named Oklahoma Gatorade Player of the Year.

Thompson averaged 19.6 points, 5.2 assists, 5 rebounds and 1.1 steals per game this season.

“Thompson is a special player with some special talent,” Muskogee coach Josh Berry said in a release. “He’s a great shooter and he’s gotten very good at distributing the basketball as well. He really keeps the pressure on the defense and is so dangerous in the open court.”
 

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It seems like our entire conference sits in hotbeds of basketball talent, or right next to them.

At least in that case it seems Tulsa is on similar footing to its peers.

Congrats to Bryce.
 

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It seems like our entire conference sits in hotbeds of basketball talent, or right next to them.

At least in that case it seems Tulsa is on similar footing to its peers.

Congrats to Bryce.
Look at the talent that comes out of Booker T and Memorial year after year. Who was the last significant Tulsa Metro player we had on the team? Jason Parker? 15 years ago. Seems like since Phillips passed on Caleb Green, we've been somewhat cursed locally.
 

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Um, I guess I never realized Bryce had those kind of hops. Surely never saw Rod do some of those things.
 

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Nolan, Tubby & Self would’ve absolutely killed it in recruiting if they could’ve recruited to the AAC. Tubby in particular had a poorly rated MVC to recruit to.

With Haith’s previous coaching stops, his salary & our current conference, his overall recruiting has been below expectations for me.

Just the Tulsa area last few years.

Bryce Thompson
Boone Twins
Shake Milton
E. Chargois

Tubby would signed them all.

GO TU!!!!
 

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Those are also two elite hall of fame coaches. Pretty tall cotton to be comparing Haith too.
 

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Well Tulsa does have the Oklahoma State Tournament MVP committed right now.

But yes it has been a bit of a dry streak. I think the tank of gas recruiting plan is very viable here. I think it builds connections and shows the path that future athletes can take. I think we stand a better chance of getting those kids because they know what the University is capable of and what it is about.

Looking at our sports we have traditionally had success when we have had a strong local element in the programs. People fight harder for their home. Look at what Martin is doing at Memphis. What Swanson, Shea did here. Paul Smith. Houston kids building their program. The Indiana, Kentucky, North Carolina kids who have turned Butler, Indiana, Indiana St, Louisville, Kentucky, tobacco road into meccas.
 

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Those are also two elite hall of fame coaches. Pretty tall cotton to be comparing Haith too.
Tubby landed Shea and that got the ball rolling. Self saw talent in local kids where they had been overlooked. They played with a chip on their shoulders. Marcus Hill was like the 4th best player at BTW when he was there. Dante Swanson was too small, Antonio Reed was too small. Jason Parker was a tweener, not a PG but not really enough size to be a wing. Coley couldn't hit a shot outside of 6 ft consistently. They all had knocks. Our inability to recruit local kids started with Phillips overlooking Caleb Green.

Haith's been trying...but he's been trying to land the elite players in the neighborhood and has forgotten to show the other guys some love. Hoping Phipps is one of those overlooked guys that doesn't fit the stereotype. But we also need to land one of the local stars.

I'm sure Tubby and Self would have loved to have Etan Thomas or Ryan Humphrey. But they didn't get those "A" level players either. But they remembered that GREAT teams have lots of good players behind the great players. BTW doesn't win this year's state championship with just Bryce. Phipps was actually the catalyst. Means he is not afraid to step up and be the guy. When was the last time we had a player like that? Woodard? Harrison? I'd give a nod to Corey Henderson in a role like that but he was a transfer.

Listen, I love Shea for what he did for TU and starting the 2nd era of greatness for TU basketball, but he has not turned into the local talent evaluator or recruiter we hoped he would be.
 
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Well Tulsa does have the Oklahoma State Tournament MVP committed right now.

But yes it has been a bit of a dry streak. I think the tank of gas recruiting plan is very viable here. I think it builds connections and shows the path that future athletes can take. I think we stand a better chance of getting those kids because they know what the University is capable of and what it is about.

Looking at our sports we have traditionally had success when we have had a strong local element in the programs. People fight harder for their home. Look at what Martin is doing at Memphis. What Swanson, Shea did here. Paul Smith. Houston kids building their program. The Indiana, Kentucky, North Carolina kids who have turned Butler, Indiana, Indiana St, Louisville, Kentucky, tobacco road into meccas.
Agree. There is a ton of quality basketball players within 4 hours of Tulsa when you consider Dallas, Little Rock, Kansas City...but there's also a ton within 2 hours too. Tulsa and OKC always produce a good number of quality basketball players. We seem to have been on a kick of overlooking those players and only honing in on the best player or two on those teams.
 
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Tubby landed Shea and that got the ball rolling. Self saw talent in local kids where they had been overlooked. They played with a chip on their shoulders. Marcus Hill was like the 4th best player at BTW when he was there. Dante Swanson was too small, Antonio Reed was too small. Jason Parker was a tweener, not a PG but not really enough size to be a wing. Coley couldn't hit a shot outside of 6 ft consistently. They all had knocks. Our inability to recruit local kids started with Phillips overlooking Caleb Green.

Haith's been trying...but he's been trying to land the elite players in the neighborhood and has forgotten to show the other guys some love. Hoping Phipps is one of those overlooked guys that doesn't fit the stereotype. But we also need to land one of the local stars.

I'm sure Tubby and Self would have loved to have Etan Thomas or Ryan Humphrey. But they didn't get those "A" level players either. But they remembered that GREAT teams have lots of good players behind the great players. BTW doesn't win this year's state championship with just Bryce. Phipps was actually the catalyst. Means he is not afraid to step up and be the guy. When was the last time we had a player like that? Woodard? Harrison? I'd give a nod to Corey Henderson in a role like that but he was a transfer.

Listen, I love Shea for what he did for TU and starting the 2nd era of greatness for TU basketball, but he has not turned into the local talent evaluator or recruiter we hoped he would be.


Shea hasn't or Haith hasn't?

We seem to be focused on finding diamonds in the rough everywhere but here. Hill is a good example, overlooked because of who is on his AAU team and he plays in Bakersfield. Seems we are looking elsewhere for the secondary players and trying for the stars at home.
 

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I really thought Haith would be better in recruiting. He hasn’t been as bad as some say, but there have been some ridiculous misses and guys who never even made it more than a few weeks. Also, his assistants really have made a difference for him but the good ones have all left.
 

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Just the Tulsa area last few years.

Bryce Thompson
Boone Twins
Shake Milton
E. Chargois

Tubby would signed them all.

GO TU!!!!

Got to remember Nolan missed on Tisdale (His son was on the same high school team) Mark Price, and Steve Hale . But agree Tubby, Robinson, and Self didn't miss many locals (except maybe Humphrey, Thomas, and Dumas (who had other problems).
 

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Tubby landed Shea and that got the ball rolling. Self saw talent in local kids where they had been overlooked. They played with a chip on their shoulders. Marcus Hill was like the 4th best player at BTW when he was there. Dante Swanson was too small, Antonio Reed was too small. Jason Parker was a tweener, not a PG but not really enough size to be a wing. Coley couldn't hit a shot outside of 6 ft consistently. They all had knocks. Our inability to recruit local kids started with Phillips overlooking Caleb Green.

Haith's been trying...but he's been trying to land the elite players in the neighborhood and has forgotten to show the other guys some love. Hoping Phipps is one of those overlooked guys that doesn't fit the stereotype. But we also need to land one of the local stars.

I'm sure Tubby and Self would have loved to have Etan Thomas or Ryan Humphrey. But they didn't get those "A" level players either. But they remembered that GREAT teams have lots of good players behind the great players. BTW doesn't win this year's state championship with just Bryce. Phipps was actually the catalyst. Means he is not afraid to step up and be the guy. When was the last time we had a player like that? Woodard? Harrison? I'd give a nod to Corey Henderson in a role like that but he was a transfer.

Listen, I love Shea for what he did for TU and starting the 2nd era of greatness for TU basketball, but he has not turned into the local talent evaluator or recruiter we hoped he would be.

You know your history really well. Great synopsis........
 
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Gosh we are going back in time Dumas might have been the best player ever from Tulsa Charles Barkley raved about the guys talent as they played together in Phoenix. Dude had some issues as I.I. pointed out.

Go TU!!!
 

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Gosh we are going back in time Dumas might have been the best player ever from Tulsa Charles Barkley raved about the guys talent as they played together in Phoenix. Dude had some issues as I.I. pointed out.

Go TU!!!

I think if Waymon was living, he’d disagree. 3 time all-American and in the collegiate hall of fame.