Briscoe entering draft (not OT)

PatrickRU92

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In case you haven't seen yet Isaiah Briscoe declared for the draft AND is signing with an agent so he's gone. What does this mean to us?

1) He is not a 1st round player. He is probably a mid range 2nd round pick. Regardless, its another guard in the draft that would almost certainly would be picked ahead of Sanders

2) he averaged 12 ppg on Kentucky and is going later in the draft. He was a high major blue chip recruit. Anyone thing that Sanders is way better than Briscoe?

Should go to show you how extremely difficult it is for a guard to be drafted into the NBA--much harder than a college football player going to the NFL (thanks to the huge # of internationals who are drafted--especially in the 2nd round where NBA teams can stash their players in Europe for a year or two and not take a salary cap hit or roster spot filled)

Not meaning to denigrate Sanders at all. He is still a fine player. He's just not an NBA player aunless you are in the top 1% of the NCAA players, which almost no one is, you aren't playing in the NBA.

I know its "the dream" but I think that HS and college need a healthy dose of realism.
 

MV9000

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Hell probably go undrafted.. A lot of people are kinda shocked at him delcaring and signiing with an agent. Hell be a Euro or Dleague guard, maybe a couple 10 days in the L
 
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Greene Rice FIG

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There are probably 100 guards out there that a NBA scout would want to watch before Corey.

Corey is like a 50 pound overweight guy trying to impress a model. Lose the weight 1st (learn how to shoot) and then make a 1st (now 2nd) impression.
 

RUJMM78

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Briscoe can't shoot the ball.
Compared to Rutgers players he can shoot the ball .At Kentucky with the one and done players its hard to get shots and his role was changed to playmaker and defensive stopper.Briscoe got a reality check at Kentucky where every recruit is top tier.
 

higgins3

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Compared to Rutgers players he can shoot the ball .At Kentucky with the one and done players its hard to get shots and his role was changed to playmaker and defensive stopper.Briscoe got a reality check at Kentucky where every recruit is top tier.

There are or were at least three kids on the Rutgers team that can shoot better than Briscoe. He is not an NBA player right now. He just feels weird being on a Kentucky roster as a junior.

You cannot develop in the NBA. And that gap from the d league to NBA is HUGE. Even though I hate the NBA and don't really watch it.

He will likely head overseas.
 
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Knights 1212

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Briscoe is not a good 3 point shooter at all. I saw him play many times in high school and he often missed quite a few threes in a game. As a freshman at UK he only shot about 45% on free throws. I think he was about 15% on threes. I think he shot about 60% this past year on foul shots. He has always been built like a full back and could get to the rim but right now I don't see him playing much in the NBA. He may get picked up by a team but unless he can really improve his outside shot I doubt he will last very long in the NBA. In his senior year at Roselle Catholic Linden beat Roselle Catholic twice out of three game and Otis Livingston out played Isaiah in both wins. In the Union County Championship Otis was selected MVP and I believe he scored 28 in that game.
 

shields

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That is why I wrote he can't shoot. Knights, how good is Tavon jones?
 

CranfordKnight

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He is not an NBA player right now. He just feels weird being on a Kentucky roster as a junior.

This above all else is what makes what Calipari is doing so terrible. If this was the case, you would hope someone would talk some sense into him and he would transfer somewhere and contribute while getting a degree. But these highly recruited kids at Kentucky are all "NBA or bust". Who knows if he's even on track with coursework. It's such a low priority there.
 
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higgins3

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This above all else is what makes what Calipari is doing so terrible. If this was the case, you would hope someone would talk some sense into him and he would transfer somewhere and contribute while getting a degree. But these highly recruited kids at Kentucky are all "NBA or bust". Who knows if he's even on track with coursework. It's such a low priority there.

it's an NBA factory. People should know what to expect.
 

RU-Choppin-Ohio

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Bad idea..... poor shooter and chubby. Needs to improve shot and lose weight. He should have transferred to Rutgers, sit a year to work on his shot and get in shape....lol
 
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There are or were at least three kids on the Rutgers team that can shoot better than Briscoe. He is not an NBA player right now. He just feels weird being on a Kentucky roster as a junior.

You cannot develop in the NBA. And that gap from the d league to NBA is HUGE. Even though I hate the NBA and don't really watch it.

He will likely head overseas.
All of the best players in the NBA are much better now than they were in college or high school. Those are the places where players aren't developing.
 

higgins3

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All of the best players in the NBA are much better now than they were in college or high school. Those are the places where players aren't developing.

I am just saying. D league goes up to 80gs per year next year(five-six months of play) That is not a bad place for him.

But unless you are first or second round, they are not going to be a patient with a kid. They don't have to be, and they could get a player at any time to replace them.

80g's. The d league is a great bet.
 
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higgins3

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True. He learned to shoot in the NBA. He's a 38% 3 point shooter now.

Leonard has the drive that is seen in the top five percent of players. He also plays for the spurs, and lives in the gym.

The d league is paying well. But the NBA is not going to pay for him to get better, especially since he would likely go undrafted if that.
 

Seton75

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I don't watch KY pkay often, but when I did, briscoe looked good to me. And I wasn't blown away with him is hs for some reason. There was a rumor that he may transfer and sit out, maybe at SH or ru. I never thought that would happen. Odd decision but maybe it is time.
 

greenknight

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Though thinking about it he probably has to do it because KY will recruit over him and he'll miss his window of opportunity. But I don't think he is anywhere near NBA material
 

Scarlet Shack

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He really should transfer ...sit out a year and develop

I think zero chance he is drafted first round and maybe 20% chance someone takes a late second round flier

The risk to gojng to a factory like U.K. Is you are always have your game vsisible which means your weakness are always talked about

If you don't make it there big ...the mentality is ...if you can't star at U.K...how can you be NBA material
 
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RJM_Go_RU

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The only reason at this point to go to Kentucky is to play freshman year, attend a few easy classes for 1 semester, and then declare for the draft. And maybe win a NC during your brief time there. That's what you buy into, so don't complain if it doesn't work out.
 
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I'm really curious to see how the standard for turning professional changes over the next few years. I believe the nbdl is raising salaries to around $60,000 in the next year or two. A player of briscoes caliber probably won't make the NBA, but im sure he can make some decent money in the d league or overseas (plus any money he can make of his likeness). Is an extra year or two in college worth turning that down when you probably will never make the NBA?
 

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This above all else is what makes what Calipari is doing so terrible. If this was the case, you would hope someone would talk some sense into him and he would transfer somewhere and contribute while getting a degree. But these highly recruited kids at Kentucky are all "NBA or bust". Who knows if he's even on track with coursework. It's such a low priority there.

Haha, one of the more uninformed, clueless takes I've seen in a long time. You really should educate yourself on a topic before embarrassing yourself by speaking about it and revealing how little understanding you have of said topic.
 
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Haha, one of the more uninformed, clueless takes I've seen in a long time. You really should educate yourself on a topic before embarrassing yourself by speaking about it and revealing how little understanding you have of said topic.
Agree with you. If the KY players feel now is the right time to enter the NBA draft, they should go for it. They can always return to school to finish however the downside is they will have to pay.
 

CranfordKnight

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Agree with you. If the KY players feel now is the right time to enter the NBA draft, they should go for it. They can always return to school to finish however the downside is they will have to pay.

I guess reading comprehension isn't your strong suit. Kind of expected it from the Kentucky db. I was referring to the fact that at Kentucky, the culture doesn't allow for players to stay beyond 1-2 years as it's considered an embarassment.

Put it this way: at most schools, you choose to either go pro, stay, or transfer. At Kentucky, the option to stay appears to be gone. Whether it's due to the culture or being replaced by the latest 1 and dones, idk, but it sure looks like a bad decision based on limited options.
 

RJM_Go_RU

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The "one and done" model is like rooting for a pro team - a bunch of mercenaries. I prefer rooting for a team where most of the players attend classes until graduation. I feel more a connection to those players since I share some commonality of experience. And I can really admire those kids because they were able to accomplish the extraordinary feat of balancing the demands of being a top athelete as well as a student.
 
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RUJMM78

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The "one and done" model is like rooting for a pro team - a bunch of mercenaries. I prefer rooting for a team where most of the players attend classes until graduation. I feel more a connection to those players since I share some commonality of experience. And I can really admire those kids because they were able to accomplish the extraordinary feet of balancing the demands of being a top athelete as well as a student.
Northwestern is a good example of what you are saying but such a school puts emphasis on academics which limits the recruiting pool.
 
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I guess reading comprehension isn't your strong suit. Kind of expected it from the Kentucky db. I was referring to the fact that at Kentucky, the culture doesn't allow for players to stay beyond 1-2 years as it's considered an embarassment.

Put it this way: at most schools, you choose to either go pro, stay, or transfer. At Kentucky, the option to stay appears to be gone. Whether it's due to the culture or being replaced by the latest 1 and dones, idk, but it sure looks like a bad decision based on limited options.
It is not offered you get criticized by the person you just agreed with. Interesting.