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acrow

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with the west in upheaval, should the AAC add a buffer and expand with a everything school and a basketball only? would it add security? Or is it really all for naught and doesn't matter at all in the big picture?
 

Babe the Blue Ox_rivals

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Not that we necessarily need one, but I'd take Drake. They aren't doing too bad. Have one upped
Wichita shockers as of late. Would give Memphis fits.
At least Drake still has a football team. We once beat them 59-6 on an ABC game. Drake finished that season 10-1 and was disappointed that they didn’t get a bowl invite.

We may not have played them again after that.
 

Gmoney4WW

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(HOME) 1985/11/09 Tulsa 45 - Drake 15 W
(AWAY) 1983/11/05 Tulsa 22 - Drake 13 W
(AWAY) 1982/10/23 Tulsa 34 - Drake 18 W
(HOME) 1981/10/31 Tulsa 59 - Drake 6 W
 

Babe the Blue Ox_rivals

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(HOME) 1985/11/09 Tulsa 45 - Drake 15 W
(AWAY) 1983/11/05 Tulsa 22 - Drake 13 W
(AWAY) 1982/10/23 Tulsa 34 - Drake 18 W
(HOME) 1981/10/31 Tulsa 59 - Drake 6 W
Then 81 may have been the last time we played them as D-1A opponents. There were a few years around that time when half the Valley was classified as D-1A and the other half dropped to D-1AA (now called FCS).
 

Gmoney4WW

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Then 81 may have been the last time we played them as D-1A opponents. There were a few years around that time when half the Valley was classified as D-1A and the other half dropped to D-1AA (now called FCS).
Yeah it was probably 82 or there abouts when everybody dropped to 1AA leaving only us & Wichita St as the two remaining 1A schools before the stopped sponsoring football in '86, I believe.
 

Babe the Blue Ox_rivals

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Your memory is a little off. They left two years before they quit sponsoring football. They joined the Pacific Coast conference in '84.
I had to look this one up as I did recall that there were 3 D-1A Valley members at one time.

Through 1983:
  • The conference was a hybrid of NCAA Division I-A and I-AA programs. New Mexico State, Tulsa, and Wichita State were I-A and the other teams were I-AA.
I thought they had lasted a bit longer than that.
 
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TU1NNJ

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At least Drake still has a football team. We once beat them 59-6 on an ABC game. Drake finished that season 10-1 and was disappointed that they didn’t get a bowl invite.

We may not have played them again after that.
Off topic re Drake game of 81 - Brett White is still running for yet another TD!
1978 TU 44 Drake 20.
 
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TU83

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Wasn’t it snowing during one of those Drake games?
Seems like it was televised
 

'Cane-man

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Then 81 may have been the last time we played them as D-1A opponents. There were a few years around that time when half the Valley was classified as D-1A and the other half dropped to D-1AA (now called FCS).
In 1975, we beat Drake, 70-7. The next week we beat Indiana St., 62-7. How they got on the schedule, who knows. Oh, that's right, we were all in the MVC.
 
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HuffyCane

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That 1988 K State team we beat had Carl Straw and nobody else. He was a marginal NFL prospect talent. The rest of the team would have lost to Kappa Sig and it would not have been much closer than the final of 35-9.

Tulsa started like 7 freshman that season iirc.

The 88 K State team still makes lists as Top 10 worst teams ever.

OU had 2 200 yard rushers in the first half.
 
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Gmoney4WW

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I never thought we needed another basketball only school, I was just throwing Drake out for idle bs conversation. Then it got wrapped into some semi serious conversation about a new conference we might be joining in a few years, called the Spare Part Conference or something like that. Drake got referred to in this separate conversation. Once again, I want to emphasize that Drake was brought up as non serious conversation crumpet.
 

I.I.

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I would not be surprised if within 5-10 years, TU is in separate conferences for football and basketball. You can see the beginnings of that already. Where we would fit in each is too early to tell.
 

HuffyCane

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I would not be surprised if within 5-10 years, TU is in separate conferences for football and basketball. You can see the beginnings of that already. Where we would fit in each is too early to tell.
You are assuming that media contracts for nonfootball conferences/institutions remain constant. I think you will see that is a fatal assumption.

Indeed, there’s some Metro schools that may not just be out of the basketball business, they may be out of business altogether soon. And that isn’t unique.
 

I.I.

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You are assuming that media contracts for nonfootball conferences/institutions remain constant. I think you will see that is a fatal assumption.

Indeed, there’s some Metro schools that may not just be out of the basketball business, they may be out of business altogether soon. And that isn’t unique.
Creighton is loving their media contract.