Bo Melton ?

ddsmugs

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Those that saw him practice this Summer......did he show anything? With the loss of Mitchelle the lack of plays by Bo is more glaring. Enough with the Caroo didn't catch balls first year ...he did not line up as a WR. Bo has played alot of snaps with very little to show for it. Hunter Hyack has shown more. What's up ?
 

ddsmugs

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Does he drop balls in practice? I agree he is not targeted much in games.....is there a reason why? Not allowed to field punts either. Does he have speed? Huggins2.0? Last game has a chance for a deep ball could not catch up to a ball in air 50 yds. Getting late in the season has only 1 catch ,,,, other FR WR with more. Another track kid who has never seen the field is Charles Snorweah , but had big HS stats. Is it a track thing?
 
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gef21

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******** on the bad QB. Gio has shown an ability to hit OPEN receivers. Yes, he has missed open receivers while scrambling, but what QB hasn't? Some of our fans are insufferable.

He is not a good QB. He has missed more deep, and open, WRs this year than he has hit. He has done enough to manage games and makes some plays with his feet but he misses a lot of looks.
 

bryanjints

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He is not a good QB. He has missed more deep, and open, WRs this year than he has hit. He has done enough to manage games and makes some plays with his feet but he misses a lot of looks.


******** on you. He doesn't get sacked. Doesn't turn the ball over. Throws TDs. Completes over 50%. But none of that matters because he has a winning record.

He is average at worst.
 

KnightTerrors

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18 year old, bad QB.

Don't hit the panic button yet.
******** on the bad QB. Gio has shown an ability to hit OPEN receivers. Yes, he has missed open receivers while scrambling, but what QB hasn't? Some of our fans are insufferable.

I️ like Gio but he has thrown for 407 yards on the year.

I️m not saying that he’s not good, but to put blame on a freshman receiver for lack of production when the passing offense is this anemic is absurd.
 

zappaa

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If Joe Montana was our QB, I doubt Melton would have much production or be targeted.
I’m sure he’ll improve moving forward.

The fact a lot of our fanbase predicted Melton to be Cliff Branch as a freshman is typical of us
 

e5fdny

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Dude we complete like 1 pass a game to a WR. Give him a minute before you call him a bust. And you can't blame him for "not catching up to" a clearly overthrow ball. If the ball if where it should be, he's walking into the EZ and this thread is never born.
If you read the coaches quotes from last week your sentence would have looked like this instead...

“If the receiver was where he should have been he’s walking into the EZ...”

And that maybe might help the OP’s “why” part of his question.

Not sure if I agree but that’s what they said.
 
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******** on you. He doesn't get sacked. Doesn't turn the ball over. Throws TDs. Completes over 50%. But none of that matters because he has a winning record.

He is average at worst.
Everything you say is correct except the winning record. He started 5 games last year. I'm a Gio guy now and always support the guys on the field unlike the OP and others above. So I'm with you that Gio is doing everything that has been asked of him and the reality is his ability to run opens up our run game.

Carroo only played on ST's as a Freshman. Melton obviously is a deep threat because he had that guy beat by 7 yards and Kill said he did not break sharply out of his cut. So he can and will get better.

Those who cannot do themselves love to attack our players. I call them losers. Big time losers.
 

e5fdny

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If Joe Montana was our QB, I doubt Melton would have much production or be targeted.
I’m sure he’ll improve moving forward.

The fact a lot of our fanbase predicted Melton to be Cliff Branch as a freshman is typical of us
Joe was 2-14 that first year with targets of Dwight Clark and Freddie Solomon. And it was also Bill Walsh’s first year too. So we can all appreciate the slow start if it ends up like it did for that group.

As for the latter comment, spot on. LOL
 
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Considering our playcalling, the more valid question is 'how is his blocking'? Not sure how often he actually is on the field and which type of plays he is in on, but if he's on the field for a majority of our plays (at least for the last 4 games), then he's probably doing a good job of learning and blocking downfield.

Trying to get open in obvious passing downs is problematic with our OL, and it's probable that he isn't the primary option in most of those plays. Has anyone charted his routes? I wouldn't be surprised if most of his routes were longer to drive the coverage deeper & open up the underneath routes. Would be interesting to see his usage.
 

miketd1

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******** on you. He doesn't get sacked. Doesn't turn the ball over. Throws TDs. Completes over 50%. But none of that matters because he has a winning record.

He is average at worst.
He's a game manager, but he's more Chad Pennington than Alex Smith.

Chad did just enough to make the case that he's a legit starter.

Alex is simply a legit starter.
 

e5fdny

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He's a game manager, but he's more Chad Pennington than Alex Smith.

Chad did just enough to make the case that he's a legit starter.

Alex is simply a legit starter.
Not in college. Which is what we’re taking about.

Both did very well and I would take either based on the numbers they put up. Ridiculously accurate the two of them.

But since Smith played under Meyer at Utah with the spread I would love to see one of our guys going forward have a season or two like Smith did at Utah.
 

RU#1fan

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Does he drop balls in practice? I agree he is not targeted much in games.....is there a reason why? Not allowed to field punts either. Does he have speed? Huggins2.0? Last game has a chance for a deep ball could not catch up to a ball in air 50 yds. Getting late in the season has only 1 catch ,,,, other FR WR with more. Another track kid who has never seen the field is Charles Snorweah , but had big HS stats. Is it a track thing?

Don’t count out Chuck yet.....wait to make your decision next year.
 

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Does he drop balls in practice? I agree he is not targeted much in games.....is there a reason why? Not allowed to field punts either. Does he have speed? Huggins2.0? Last game has a chance for a deep ball could not catch up to a ball in air 50 yds. Getting late in the season has only 1 catch ,,,, other FR WR with more. Another track kid who has never seen the field is Charles Snorweah , but had big HS stats. Is it a track thing?

This guy appears to be having a stroke.
 

MADHAT1

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My opinion: Bo's a freshman, sometimes kids need time to develop their great HS game into a college one and if not redshirted> limited playing time their freshman season.
I won't blame the QB, just feel it might be an adjusting to college game matter.
 
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madchuck

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Gio is not good statistically. And he haven't exactly lit it up. But whether it's by design or to mask his deficiencies, you have to acknowledge that he throws less than 20 passes a game. Last week Minnesota's QB threw for 74 yards and Michigans QB had 56 yards. When you're throwing 15 passes a game, you're not going to have 300 yard passing days. Mason Rudolph threw 54 passes last week. Not saying Gio is Mason Rudolph but the play calling has a lot to do with his stats. Last season he had a few 200 yard games. Including against Maryland.
 

mildone_rivals

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He is not a good QB. He has missed more deep, and open, WRs this year than he has hit. He has done enough to manage games and makes some plays with his feet but he misses a lot of looks.
I respectfully disagree, depending on how you define "good". He's not a great QB in that he's not likely to win too many games with his arm. At least not yet. But I'm starting to think that he's not an awful QB either.

I don't recall Gio missing a ton of wide open deep passes. Actually, I can't recall many times he's been asked to throw deep balls. Bolin missed a bunch of deep, open WRs earlier in the season, and missed them worse than Gio has missed on his pretty rare deep-ball attempts. Is it possible you're conflating the two QBs?

There appear to be some footwork and vision problems he needs to work on. He has failed to recognize or be in a position to throw to a couple receivers breaking open downfield. Maybe that's what you were talking about? In some cases, it was because Gio was caught rolling left, so throwing further to his left required him to stop, pivot and throw. He actually fell down trying to do that in one recent game - I think the open receiver was Blackshear, but not sure.

But in general, I think Gio is actually throwing the ball better and better. His apparent arm strength in the last game was actually kind of impressive to me. I suspect that, if provided with WRs that quickly and constantly got separation, Gio'd look better as a passer.

He's making plays with his feet (when healthy), not taking a lot of sacks even against some stout defenses, putting throws where nobody but a receiver can catch them (mostly) and hasn't been turning the ball over. His screen pass to Edwards was actually a pretty difficult play to make and he not only made it but hit Edwards in stride, certainly a big part of why that pass wound up being a TD pass.

For me, the jury is still out about Gio. I'd rate him a pretty good game manager QB at the moment, with potential to be a better than average college QB if we can get receivers that regularly get open, and that fight successfully for the ball.
 

Caliknight

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Watch the kids hs tape. That will answer any questions about his speed and elusiveness.

It’s not happening immediately but he will be the most dynamic player we have had in a long time before he leaves.
 

gmay8

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A quick slant to a split out receiver is one of the easiest, safest, and effective passing plays there is. It amazes me, we cant' split out Bo, and have him run a 5 yard quick slant. No other reads, no secondary routes, just a quick slant against man to man coverage. I am shocked we haven't seen that even once.
 

Knight Shift

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I️ like Gio but he has thrown for 407 yards on the year.

I️m not saying that he’s not good, but to put blame on a freshman receiver for lack of production when the passing offense is this anemic is absurd.
I did not put blame on a freshman receiver.
 

sct1111

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A quick slant to a split out receiver is one of the easiest, safest, and effective passing plays there is. It amazes me, we cant' split out Bo, and have him run a 5 yard quick slant. No other reads, no secondary routes, just a quick slant against man to man coverage. I am shocked we haven't seen that even once.
I'm sort of baffled we haven't used the quick slant much this year. How many times did we throw Sanu the ball within 2 seconds if the snap? We have to get the ball in our playmakers hands as quick as possible.
 
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ClassOf02v.2

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Does he drop balls in practice? I agree he is not targeted much in games.....is there a reason why? Not allowed to field punts either. Does he have speed? Huggins2.0? Last game has a chance for a deep ball could not catch up to a ball in air 50 yds. Getting late in the season has only 1 catch ,,,, other FR WR with more. Another track kid who has never seen the field is Charles Snorweah , but had big HS stats. Is it a track thing?
I feel you're not taking as much heat in this thread as you should be, so I just want to call out this DB post for what it is.
 

gmay8

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Wouldn't the press-man coverage we've seen all year negate those quick routes?

Then put him split out in the slot and off the line of scrimmage so a safety/linebacker is on him and can't press him as easily. I played QB behind a very bad offensive line in HS. We threw so many quick slants, and they tended to be effective too.