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From the article....
If Sanders played with as high of a motor on defense as he does on offense, there is no doubt he'd be amongst the five-star prospects in his class. The hyped freshman tends to take plays off on defense and lacks the consistent effort to become fully engaged on that side of the court.
I haven't seen that anywhere except for this article. If true, it is essential Jordan changes this.
If Sanders played with as high of a motor on defense as he does on offense, there is no doubt he'd be amongst the five-star prospects in his class. The hyped freshman tends to take plays off on defense and lacks the consistent effort to become fully engaged on that side of the court.
I haven't seen that anywhere except for this article. If true, it is essential Jordan changes this.
Nothing personal, I know its not your article Greene, but thats total BS. He loves playing defense he is quoted in saying that and it has shown from all the steals and blocks in the gazillion videos online. His biggest jam in the AA game was off a steal.
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The one all-star game I saw Sanders play he was one of the few kids playing defense. He made some steals and stops that enabled his team to win the game.
Exactly. If he was a defensive stewart, he wouldn't be at Rutgers.
He has the ability, just has to stay focused on that end. Same thing for the kid he grew up playnig with- Dwayne Bacon. Future NBA kid, but doesn't lock in on defense. Just has to change the habit. Guard defense is so crucial. If Sanders doesn't defend well, we will win far less games. All breaks down from the guard.
[QUOTE="higgins3, post: 738968, member: 5098"]Exactly. If he was a defensive stewart, he wouldn't be at Rutgers.
He has the ability, just has to stay focused on that end. Same thing for the kid he grew up playnig with- Dwayne Bacon. Future NBA kid, but doesn't lock in on defense. Just has to change the habit. Guard defense is so crucial. If Sanders doesn't defend well, we will win far less games. All breaks down from the guard.[/QUOTE]
Really ? First time I heard that one.
He has the ability, just has to stay focused on that end. Same thing for the kid he grew up playnig with- Dwayne Bacon. Future NBA kid, but doesn't lock in on defense. Just has to change the habit. Guard defense is so crucial. If Sanders doesn't defend well, we will win far less games. All breaks down from the guard.[/QUOTE]
Really ? First time I heard that one.
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No offense to author Marco Knudsen, but, I'll wait for Jordans comments regarding Corey Sanders defensive prowess or lack there of. The same way he commented about Laurent's defensive ability.
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EJ LOVES ...I mean LOVES Sanders' defense.
Corey was making passes in practice the other day I've never seen a RU PG make (and no Scarlet colored glasses here guys). His shot is a bit inconsistent early, but he is a capable shooter.
But ask Coach about CS and he always says defense first...
Corey was making passes in practice the other day I've never seen a RU PG make (and no Scarlet colored glasses here guys). His shot is a bit inconsistent early, but he is a capable shooter.
But ask Coach about CS and he always says defense first...
Great to see that, BK - let's hope our bigs are ready to catch and have good hands so they don't get a no-look pass in the ear!
Really ? First time I heard that one.[/QUOTE]
Just what I read and saw man. Don't have to get so defensive on a message board. I t hink very highly of Sanders.
Just what I read and saw man. Don't have to get so defensive on a message board. I t hink very highly of Sanders.[/QUOTE]
Lol
Sanders is a good defensive player. If he were a better defensive player he would be at B1G rival OSU or Michigan......He would not be at Rutgers......at least that's what I read somewhere
Sounds like Jordan has a full roster.
1. It will be up to him to change the culture. Defense, rebounding and winning 50/50s.
2. Bench has to be used. Players give it their all for 7 minutes and get rests.
3. Conditioning
If Sanders has the skills to play D, which it sounds like he does, it will be up to the staff to bring it out. If Laurent is Evil Kenievel getting thru screens we have start.
1. It will be up to him to change the culture. Defense, rebounding and winning 50/50s.
2. Bench has to be used. Players give it their all for 7 minutes and get rests.
3. Conditioning
If Sanders has the skills to play D, which it sounds like he does, it will be up to the staff to bring it out. If Laurent is Evil Kenievel getting thru screens we have start.
In HS it was said that he would take off plays defensively. Of course the athleticism is there to defend. He is a very smart kid though and has seem to made the adjustment. Fig was saying that if everything about his play was perfect, he might not of landed here. That is a valid point, and probably has some truth to it.
Very few HS kids are prepared to defend at the D-1 level and even less have played much against the sophisticated type offenses you see at the D-1 level.
Just learning the different ways to defend the ball screens takes time.
Just learning the different ways to defend the ball screens takes time.
I cant agree that EJ has a full roster. I don't see a backup PG or a legitimate 3 man.
Optimistically, I am HOPING that there is a viable plan to get Sanders off the court for at least 8 minutes a game so he doesn't completely wear down. I've been banging this drum for a while and no one seems to know exactly what the backup PG plan is.
More optimistically, I am HOPING that Laurent, Grier and maybe even Foreman can adequately man the 3 spot, but again, that is a hope and one without much basis in history.
Next year we may have a full roster, assuming Laurent is that 3 man, joined by Johnson and Parker to back up the point/combo guard and recruiting a promising big man to replace Lewis.
I am excited for the season.
Daniels will be the other lead guard. Eddie has been clear about that, and the players skill sets makes it clear. We are fine there.
The wing is a ? And production from Diallo and Doorson are the big "what ifs"..
The back up PG spot will be by committee...Daniels would be first in line there, but Williams can handle competently if not spectacularly if called upon. Grier and Goode are admittedly more one dimensional and best suited for SG duty, but Grier will play plenty in 3 guard sets.
The offense that we now employ doesn't rely on the 1-5 mindset. Sure you need little guys to handle, and big guys to rebound, but the other 3 spots are almost interchangeable. The fact that DJ Foreman might be your starting 3 right now pretty much confirms that. Our guys, save Doorson and Sanders, who's obvious best positions will probably be the only place they play this year, can flex to 2 or even 3 spots on the floor to varying degrees. That will enable Coach Jordan to do some things that he hasn't had the luxury of even thinking about his first 2 seasons.
The team has made great progress in practice in the short time there. Nobody is kidding themselves about the youth of this team and what they may have to learn game by game, both physically and X/Os wise. But damn, I'm friggin excited about this group of kids. Everyone will play a role, and it's been a long time since I could say that about a RU team.
The offense that we now employ doesn't rely on the 1-5 mindset. Sure you need little guys to handle, and big guys to rebound, but the other 3 spots are almost interchangeable. The fact that DJ Foreman might be your starting 3 right now pretty much confirms that. Our guys, save Doorson and Sanders, who's obvious best positions will probably be the only place they play this year, can flex to 2 or even 3 spots on the floor to varying degrees. That will enable Coach Jordan to do some things that he hasn't had the luxury of even thinking about his first 2 seasons.
The team has made great progress in practice in the short time there. Nobody is kidding themselves about the youth of this team and what they may have to learn game by game, both physically and X/Os wise. But damn, I'm friggin excited about this group of kids. Everyone will play a role, and it's been a long time since I could say that about a RU team.
BK, This is great to hear. I'm looking forward to seeing an aggressive and improving team during this coming season. Saturday should be fun.
I'm looking forward to seeing improved D. We don't seem to be blessed with alot of outside shooters so transition baskets will be key. Our offense needs to begin the moment the opponent posssses the ball. Very excited to see this team develop beginning on Sat!!
Foreman at the 3 would concern me defensively, especially OOC. I'd think most teams we see have a very athletic 3 or essentially a 3 guard offense. Most OOC schools (Rutgers included here) on a typical schedule just aren't going to get skilled 6' 6'' players so they end up with 3 guards.
Has DJ improved to the point he can stay in front of a 6'3'' guard. Conversely it does create matchup problems on the other end.
Has DJ improved to the point he can stay in front of a 6'3'' guard. Conversely it does create matchup problems on the other end.
GRF...
Not really my point. DJ is capable of playing out there, and depending on matchups, could see that line up in play.
Freeman and Lewis are going to play a lot. Everyone knows about the buzz Diallo has generated, so where does that leave DJ? At the 3 from time to time is the only logical answer, so he is seeing time out there in practice.
Just goes back to my original point...EJ has options. The very fact we could contemplate a front line of 6'10, 6'9, 6'8 and still have 7'0 and 6'8 at our disposal on the bench should make RU fans very happy. The talent drop off that has plagued our bench in recent years has started to abate.
Not really my point. DJ is capable of playing out there, and depending on matchups, could see that line up in play.
Freeman and Lewis are going to play a lot. Everyone knows about the buzz Diallo has generated, so where does that leave DJ? At the 3 from time to time is the only logical answer, so he is seeing time out there in practice.
Just goes back to my original point...EJ has options. The very fact we could contemplate a front line of 6'10, 6'9, 6'8 and still have 7'0 and 6'8 at our disposal on the bench should make RU fans very happy. The talent drop off that has plagued our bench in recent years has started to abate.
No doubt it is a big asset in B1G play to be versatile....
6'1'' 6'3'' 6'8'' 6'10'' 7'0'' at times
6'1'' 6'3'' 6'3'' 6'8'' 6'10'' others
I am going on record that Bishop Daniels has a major role on the team and ends up our leading scorer.
6'1'' 6'3'' 6'8'' 6'10'' 7'0'' at times
6'1'' 6'3'' 6'3'' 6'8'' 6'10'' others
I am going on record that Bishop Daniels has a major role on the team and ends up our leading scorer.
I think what would be great to see is Foreman get to the rim, and give + defense. Then Laurent comes in late in the last fifteen minutes and can operate in an offense and play ++ defense to win a game.
I really see Diallo as being a pretty decent center. Might not be what you are looking for right now, but I think next year he can be a 6 and 8 guy. This year, I see a Greg Lewis that moves well in the post, can push it out a little bit, and Diallo as being a guy that can come in and grab rebound and hopefully hit his foul shots.
I am hopeful for Diallo. I have read a number of good things about him from HS and now.
I've seen a video of Nigel Johnson(who I think can be our next Mack) where the ball is transitioned very quickly. It got out of the back very nicely. I thhink in the BIG, it would be nice to keep opponents on their heels like that.
Coach Jordan wants the team to attack, and that is a great plan, as long as we can do it well and with discipline. We hurt last year because of turnovers, so I am hoping we keep the ball in our hands. I think Grier being on the court helps that. I hope to see more passing, and less dribbling.
Thank god I am a Knicks fan. I am starting to see that now with them and the patience they are playing with 80% of the time is a thing of beauty.
We are clearly college basketball fans on this board so I get confused at folks who wonder "who will play the...". College basketball is very different than the NBA.
Who played what position for Michigan State last season? : Starters: Appling 6'1", Trice 6'0", Valentine 6'5", Dawson 6'6", Payne 6'10"
Who is the "3" on Ohio State last year? Scott 6'1", Tate 6'4", Russell 6'5", Thompson 6'7", Williams 6'11".
Like BK said above, in CBB there is a "1" and usually a "5" after that everything else is pretty much interchangeable. Not just for RU, but for just about every team.
Who played what position for Michigan State last season? : Starters: Appling 6'1", Trice 6'0", Valentine 6'5", Dawson 6'6", Payne 6'10"
Who is the "3" on Ohio State last year? Scott 6'1", Tate 6'4", Russell 6'5", Thompson 6'7", Williams 6'11".
Like BK said above, in CBB there is a "1" and usually a "5" after that everything else is pretty much interchangeable. Not just for RU, but for just about every team.
I'm a big Daniels fan. I think he was benefit because, with Sanders, he will be able to catch passes while moving towards the rim. He should be able to use his athletic ability to finish. His main issue last year was too many turnovers while trying to dribble drive towards the basket.
I also hope to see more run outs with him and Sanders in the open court.
It isn't the guy's role in the offense (where numbers have the meaning). Looking at the 2 examples Foreman at the "3" (meaning there are 2 less agile guys on the court)....vs. Michigan State he guards Valentine---OK, vs. OSU guards Tate---NOT OK.
To me Foreman is a college tweener. His minutes become contingent on the opposition's lineup. caveat would be 1. if he is quick or becomes quicker than I thought AND 2. if he becomes the offensive weapon where we force the hand of the opposing coach to adapt to our lineup.
To your original point offensively 2-3-4 are interchangable....rarely do we see the '80s-'90s NBA prototype 4 man that is 6'9''+ that plays mostly back to the basket.
He comes here with high expectations and probably tried to do too much. add the fact that he got hurt in the beginning of the year and the season gets condensed and there is more urgency.
A year under his belt AND not being third fiddle should help. i think the game will slow down for him.
At least that's what I am hoping.
I agree. On the positive side if either Foreman or Freeman have a back to the basket game (something Jack did on far too rare an occasion) that could be a spot where RU gets some points on the offensive end.