Barney must go

Wildcats1st

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Sorry to those who mysteriously love the man but he’s done: this nil stuff is the nail in his coffin. The only thing he got right was a luck hit with stoops after that it’s been a disaster. Joker. Bcg lifetime contract. Losing bb season 3 ncaa tourney misses: he got lucky with stoops. This guy is revered for what? Every way you can imagine he’s handcuffing us. He needs to go work for the sec or ncaa if he’s such a great ad. The fact is he’s the ad that all other ads love because he’s weak. He’s been here well past his shelf life and our bb program is going to spin it’s wheels while he sucks oxygen: we need an ad to light a fire under cal and support to the fullest nil efforts. Barney is probably too nice of a guy which makes him a sucker. I listened to Matt’s rant and he’s right. Barney is holding us back and he’s had too many mulligans already
 

Titpwhami2014

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A dog, a blow up doll, an outdoor hobby. Gardening? Something. Anything.

Life is too short to stew about silly stuff.

Yeah but he’s right. Mitch’s approach is as crusty and outdated as a 4-day old donut. Worries as much about rifle winning as the men’s basketball program winning. Has been that way since the beginning. Because Sears Cup and stuff.

I don’t mind winning in non-revenue sports but not at the expense of the men’s basketball and football programs. I praise him for Stoops but I will never give him credit for Cal.

Dr. Todd and the donors hired Cal, not Mitch.
 

Son_Of_Saul

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A dog, a blow up doll, an outdoor hobby. Gardening? Something. Anything.

Life is too short to stew about silly stuff.
What do you expect fans to talk about in July on a UK sports message board?

Leadbelly songs? How to post gay porn on a message board and get away with it from the mods? How to make 22 different accounts? You do know a lot about all three of those topics.
 

UKWoodford

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Yeah but he’s right. Mitch’s approach is as crusty and outdated as a 4-day old donut. Worries as much about rifle winning as the men’s basketball program winning. Has been that way since the beginning. Because Sears Cup and stuff.

I don’t mind winning in non-revenue sports but not at the expense of the men’s basketball and football programs. I praise him for Stoops but I will never give him credit for Cal.

Dr. Todd and the donors hired Cal, not Mitch.

Barny is the only AD that would have been patient enough to let Stoops turn Football around.. laughable to think they’d fire him. Utterly laughable so just a stupid thread.
 

o_turkeywildturkey

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Sorry to those who mysteriously love the man but he’s done: this nil stuff is the nail in his coffin. The only thing he got right was a luck hit with stoops after that it’s been a disaster. Joker. Bcg lifetime contract. Losing bb season 3 ncaa tourney misses: he got lucky with stoops. This guy is revered for what? Every way you can imagine he’s handcuffing us. He needs to go work for the sec or ncaa if he’s such a great ad. The fact is he’s the ad that all other ads love because he’s weak. He’s been here well past his shelf life and our bb program is going to spin it’s wheels while he sucks oxygen: we need an ad to light a fire under cal and support to the fullest nil efforts. Barney is probably too nice of a guy which makes him a sucker. I listened to Matt’s rant and he’s right. Barney is holding us back and he’s had too many mulligans already
You’re an idiot. Fans like you can’t be helped. You can’t fix stupid.
 

Pickle_Rick

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Barney didn't fire Stoops because he knew ew he was a good coach. He didn't fire Stoops because he's afraid to fire anyone! That Stoops grew into being a great coach is immaterial of Barneys behavior. Barney lucked out is all.
 

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Barney didn't fire Stoops because he knew ew he was a good coach. He didn't fire Stoops because he's afraid to fire anyone! That Stoops grew into being a great coach is immaterial of Barneys behavior. Barney lucked out is all.

He fired Gillispie after 2 seasons and fired Joker after 3 seasons, so it seems highly unlikely that he’s afraid of firing people.

And after Stoops went 2-10 his first season here, Barnhart had the foresight to give him a contract extension and a raise. Not sure how many ADs would’ve done that.
 

senonesy

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Sorry to those who mysteriously love the man but he’s done: this nil stuff is the nail in his coffin. The only thing he got right was a luck hit with stoops after that it’s been a disaster. Joker. Bcg lifetime contract. Losing bb season 3 ncaa tourney misses: he got lucky with stoops. This guy is revered for what? Every way you can imagine he’s handcuffing us. He needs to go work for the sec or ncaa if he’s such a great ad. The fact is he’s the ad that all other ads love because he’s weak. He’s been here well past his shelf life and our bb program is going to spin it’s wheels while he sucks oxygen: we need an ad to light a fire under cal and support to the fullest nil efforts. Barney is probably too nice of a guy which makes him a sucker. I listened to Matt’s rant and he’s right. Barney is holding us back and he’s had too many mulligans already
Yeah, you know more than the Big Dog. Mitch ain’t the problem

 

Bluefaithful

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Another idiot post by an idiot Troll who has a miserable life.

Sparked by a national championship in rifle, an NCAA runner-up slot by men’s tennis, and third-place national finishes by women’s indoor and outdoor track and field, University of Kentucky Athletics’ historic run of success continues with the highest overall finish in school history – ninth place – in the final 2021-22 Learfield Directors’ Cup standings released Tuesday.

The ninth-place ranking eclipsed the previous school record of 10th place in 2016-17. UK Athletics also extended its streaks of five years in a row in the top 20 and 10 consecutive years in the top 30, not including the 2019-20 school year when there were no standings kept because of the cancellation of winter and spring sports championships. The Directors’ Cup began in 1993-94 and the best eight finishes in school history have been under current Athletics Director Mitch Barnhart, all of which have come in the last nine years.

From the start of the delayed 2020 Olympics, Kentucky Wildcats were breaking records with a school-record 22 athletes participating in The Games. The number of UK athletes alone was larger than delegations from 106 countries, territories and principalities vying for medals in Japan.

UK finished the Olympics with a school-record 12-medals — eight gold, three silver and one bronze. Previously, the men’s basketball program held the record with nine medals in 1948. With a dozen medals, if UK was matched against countries medaling at The Games it would make the top 20. And according to Twitter account Olympians Made Here, UK tied for seventh in U.S. colleges earning medals in Tokyo.

Just maybe, after this fiasco with the player that shall not be named, Mitch is setting the bar that we will not be taken advantage of. The OP is so stupid he doesn’t realized people in high position doesn’t show his true position in the public eye.
Go Cats
Congratulations to all the Student Athletes of the University Of Kentucky
Great Job!!!!!!!
OP is an Idiot Troll

 
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ORCAT

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Yeah but he’s right. Mitch’s approach is as crusty and outdated as a 4-day old donut. Worries as much about rifle winning as the men’s basketball program winning. Has been that way since the beginning. Because Sears Cup and stuff.

I don’t mind winning in non-revenue sports but not at the expense of the men’s basketball and football programs. I praise him for Stoops but I will never give him credit for Cal.

Dr. Todd and the donors hired Cal, not Mitch.
Hey, don't go knocking 4 day old donuts!
 
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DudahUK

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He fired Gillispie after 2 seasons and fired Joker after 3 seasons, so it seems highly unlikely that he’s afraid of firing people.

And after Stoops went 2-10 his first season here, Barnhart had the foresight to give him a contract extension and a raise. Not sure how many ADs would’ve done that.
Joker was only here 2 seasons right?

Also, we just had this exact thread pretty much and I got kicked out of it for some reason by a mod so I’ll see my way out of this one on my own.
 

UK2KJAG

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If it’s true Barnhart is holding UK back in the NIL game then yes he must go but haven’t seen proof of that yet
 

UKnCincy_rivals

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Joker was only here 2 seasons right?

Also, we just had this exact thread pretty much and I got kicked out of it for some reason by a mod so I’ll see my way out of this one on my own.
I thought it was 3 seasons, but honestly, I’d rather forget most of his time here.

I’ll never understand why Joker kept trotting Morgan Newton out there for him to either throw the ball into the ground or simply fall on his *** during a drop back.

That was some atrocious football. Even by UK standards.
 

School boy

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Barny is the only AD that would have been patient enough to let Stoops turn Football around.. laughable to think they’d fire him. Utterly laughable so just a stupid thread.
It's not stupid. He has to go. Been the AD for 20 years and not a good return. In fact the basketball program took a step back. We can talk about football all we want. They haven't done nothing in the SEC. And maybe only better than Vandy and USC in the time period.
 

UKWoodford

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It's not stupid. He has to go. Been the AD for 20 years and not a good return. In fact the basketball program took a step back. We can talk about football all we want. They haven't done nothing in the SEC. And maybe only better than Vandy and USC in the time period.

Says another non-UK fan. Embarrassing to hang out on a rival site and pretend. Pathetic.
 

DudahUK

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I thought it was 3 seasons, but honestly, I’d rather forget most of his time here.

I’ll never understand why Joker kept trotting Morgan Newton out there for him to either throw the ball into the ground or simply fall on his *** during a drop back.

That was some atrocious football. Even by UK standards.
I’ll never forget him sacking himself. Lol. That was like the perfect play to sum up UK football under Joker. Thank God for Stoops. We just gotta keep him and not handicap him in recruiting.
 

Tubbyfan78

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Barnhart is a trash AD and always has been. Stoops saved his job. Our athletic department has been successful in spite of him.
 
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bthaunert

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Here are my 2 cents on Mitch:

1. He’s a university president’s dream as an AD (aka he will never be pushed out or fired). He’s never sniffed probation in any sport in 20 years. That is unheard of. I honestly wonder if there is another Power 5 program that can say that. The athletic department is 100% self sufficient and does not use any university funds. In fact, the athletic department is paying $60 million of the science center. I know that doesn’t happen anywhere else.

2. People always bring up Joker. At the time, Joker looked like a good hire. It didn’t work out and he cut bait after year 3. BCG was a terrible hire. Thank god he cut bait after 2 years, but he deserves criticism for that hire. Overall, the quality of his hires across the board have been relatively good ahd the fact that he got 2 out of 3 right in football is actually really good. There are very few AD’s (less than a handful) over a 20 year period who don’t make bad hires.

3. He’s terrible with contracts…terrible. From the BCG non-contract to the Mangione extension to the Cal 10 year deal. He’s just not good.

4. He’s way to much of a company man. It took way too long to get facilities up to where they need to be because imo he wouldn’t push back like some AD’s would. Football should have been done a long time ago.

5. He puts too much of his personal beliefs in decisions that he should not have his personal beliefs cloud his decision making process. Alcohol sales is one and I think his timid approach to the changing landscape of college athletics are another. They are never going to be like they were 10 years ago.

Overall, he’s been a pretty good AD, but he has some glaring weaknesses. The important thing is no president would ever think of firing a guy like Mitch. He stays out of trouble, makes his own money, gives a lot of it back to the university and has a strong program across the board.
 
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*CatinIL*

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Sorry, but you can't have a conversation about Barney without nipping it in the bud!
 

DudahUK

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Here are my 2 cents on Mitch:

1. He’s a university president’s dream as an AD (aka he will never be pushed out or fired). He’s never sniffed probation in any sport in 20 years. That is unheard of. I honestly wonder if there is another Power 5 program that can say that. The athletic department is 100% self sufficient and does not use any university funds. In fact, the athletic department is paying $60 million of the science center. I know that doesn’t happen anywhere else.

2. People always bring up Joker. At the time, Joker looked like a good hire. It didn’t work out and he cut bait after year 3. BCG was a terrible hire. Thank god he cut bait after 2 years, but he deserves criticism for that hire. Overall, the quality of his hires across the board have been relatively good ahd the fact that he got 2 out of 3 right in football is actually really good. There are very few AD’s (less than a handful) over a 20 year period who don’t make bad hires.

3. He’s terrible with contracts…terrible. From the BCG non-contract to the Mangione extension to the Cal 10 year deal. He’s just not good.

4. He’s way to much of a company man. It took way too long to get facilities up to where they need to be because imo he wouldn’t push back like some AD’s would. Football should have been done a long time ago.

5. He puts too much of his personal beliefs in decisions that he should not have his personal beliefs cloud his decision making process. Alcohol sales is one and I think his timid approach to the changing landscape of college athletics are another. They are never going to be like they were 10 years ago.

Overall, he’s been a pretty good AD, but he has some glaring weaknesses. The important thing is no president would ever think of firing a guy like Mitch. He stays out of trouble, makes his own money, gives a lot of it back to the university and has a strong program across the board.
Joker was never a good hire on anyones paper. First year HC don’t fare too well in the SEC. So no, that was an awful awful hire.

And you are the second person I’ve seen say 3 years. I could have swore it was only 2 seasons?
 

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Sorry to those who mysteriously love the man but he’s done: this nil stuff is the nail in his coffin. The only thing he got right was a luck hit with stoops after that it’s been a disaster. Joker. Bcg lifetime contract. Losing bb season 3 ncaa tourney misses: he got lucky with stoops. This guy is revered for what? Every way you can imagine he’s handcuffing us. He needs to go work for the sec or ncaa if he’s such a great ad. The fact is he’s the ad that all other ads love because he’s weak. He’s been here well past his shelf life and our bb program is going to spin it’s wheels while he sucks oxygen: we need an ad to light a fire under cal and support to the fullest nil efforts. Barney is probably too nice of a guy which makes him a sucker. I listened to Matt’s rant and he’s right. Barney is holding us back and he’s had too many mulligans already
Do you realize that the Big Dog supports him? I'm going with that instead of your dumb ***.
 

BBBLazing

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It's not stupid. He has to go. Been the AD for 20 years and not a good return. In fact the basketball program took a step back. We can talk about football all we want. They haven't done nothing in the SEC. And maybe only better than Vandy and USC in the time period.
So 20 years ago the basketball and football programs were better than now? Are you 19 years old? In 2002, we would all have loved to have a football team with a chance to win the east and a basketball team ranked preseason top ten.
 
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BBBLazing

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Joker was never a good hire on anyones paper. First year HC don’t fare too well in the SEC. So no, that was an awful awful hire.

And you are the second person I’ve seen say 3 years. I could have swore it was only 2 seasons?
Everyone forgets that Joker was made "coach in waiting" to keep him from taking the OC job at Oklahoma. We were doing great and he was about to leave. So, they promised him the job. Come to find out, he was a good OC, but a ****** head coach and didn't surround himself with enough recruiters. Hard to recruit at UK in the SEC then. ****** facilities.

Another thing you young fellows forget is that Bill Curry was the National Coach of the Year the year we stole him from Alabama. Everyone always complains about that being a bad hire, but the University of Kentucky got the National Coach of the Year from Alabama. He didn't do well here because our recruiting base sucked then, but we hired a guy that could have done well if we were the Kentucky we are now and had SEC caliber players. You say, how come he didn't recruit SEC caliber players. Our recruiting room was the lunch room. It is easier with facilities that Bill Curry didn't have the luxury of using.
 

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Yeah, you know more than the Big Dog. Mitch ain’t the problem


This.
I don't believe the revenue stream is what some think it is for NIL unless you hold the position that players should recieve NIL straight from the athletic dept.
The big money donors are always going to lean basketball in Kentucky.
The dynamic that exists in Texas with regards to football recruiting will never be in play here.
 

DudahUK

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Everyone forgets that Joker was made "coach in waiting" to keep him from taking the OC job at Oklahoma. We were doing great and he was about to leave. So, they promised him the job. Come to find out, he was a good OC, but a ****** head coach and didn't surround himself with enough recruiters. Hard to recruit at UK in the SEC then. ****** facilities.

Another thing you young fellows forget is that Bill Curry was the National Coach of the Year the year we stole him from Alabama. Everyone always complains about that being a bad hire, but the University of Kentucky got the National Coach of the Year from Alabama. He didn't do well here because our recruiting base sucked then, but we hired a guy that could have done well if we were the Kentucky we are now and had SEC caliber players. You say, how come he didn't recruit SEC caliber players. Our recruiting room was the lunch room. It is easier with facilities that Bill Curry didn't have the luxury of using.
He was never getting the OU job. Stop it. And young fellows? I was in college when the Joke was here, not preschool.

Also, no clue what Bill curry has anything to do with this conversation.
 

ukgold

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Is there any chance Mitch's approach to NIL is dictated by the poeple who have the money. Maybe they don't want to give away millions every year.
 

mrhotdice

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On NIL, I really think it will destroy college sports but until it does, buy as many players as one can afford. Hire a few bogus companies to go around the state for NIL cash. Strong arm every business in the state just like A&M, Tenn., LSU, et all are doing right now. Now if you think this is beneath the morals of UK, don’t complain when they only win 4-5 games a year. Reality is a *****.
 

bthaunert

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Joker was never a good hire on anyones paper. First year HC don’t fare too well in the SEC. So no, that was an awful awful hire.

And you are the second person I’ve seen say 3 years. I could have swore it was only 2 seasons?
He was 3 years. 6-7 in year 1, 5-7 in year 2 and 2-10 in year 3.

Mark Stoops is a first time HC and worked out just fine. Kirby Smart is a first time HC and doing well. Sam Pittman is a first time HC and just went 9-4 in his second year at Arkansas. Shane Beamer is the other first time coach in the SEC and he just went 7-6 in his first season at USC after they won 6 games combined the 2 prior years. So, 4 first year coaches. One won the national title, 2 finished ranked in the top 20 and the 3rd had a winning record for his school after the previous coach won 2 and 4 games in the 2 seasons prior to his arrival.

He was not an awful, awful hire at the time it was made according to most. He just didn’t work out. When he was named the next HC, he was coming off year 3 as OC to back-to-back 8-5 teams, which was unheard of for UK back then. We were 8-5 both years because of our offense. We averaged 27ppg and then 37ppg in those 2 years prior to him being named HC. For comparison, we averaged 31ppg this year.