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<blockquote data-quote="Samuel S" data-source="post: 129403088" data-attributes="member: 1754664">The level of stupidity astounds.You can't say we are not&nbsp; a good team because we have played all our toughest games.Yet, you can say OSU is a good team when they have played none of their toughest games.It's actually quite possible (being optimistic about us) that the only difference in record between us and OSU will prove to be that they came to our field and took a gift victory. That will mean they are better than us, but it won't mean they are good.&nbsp; OOC they played&nbsp; Central Michigan, Central Arkansas and Texas San Antonio.&nbsp; They beat Texas, but so did ISU. They beat KSU but so did Texas.&nbsp; Texas also lost at home to Cal and is a major upset over OU from roasting Strong and may get there yet this year.The Big 12 OOCBaylor -- noneOSU-- noneKSU - noneTexas- 0-2TTU 1-0 (beat Ark which might actually be the best win in the entire conf. even though Ark lost to Toledo)TCU--&nbsp; 1-0 (beat Minn.&nbsp; possible best win even though they are 1-3 in the B10)Kansas 0-1ISU 0-1 (and also lost to Toledo)OU 1- 0 (beat UT, also a possible best win even though UT is 2-3 in the SEC and lost to Ark.)&nbsp; What has the Big 12 actually&nbsp; done to demonstrate it is a tough conference relative to any other Power 5 conference? That our best teams are undefeated or 1 loss against very easy schedules proves nothing.&nbsp; You should have a hard time arguing against that when you want to argue our schedule is such it's too soon to say we aren't good.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Samuel S, post: 129403088, member: 1754664"] The level of stupidity astounds. You can't say we are not a good team because we have played all our toughest games. Yet, you can say OSU is a good team when they have played none of their toughest games. It's actually quite possible (being optimistic about us) that the only difference in record between us and OSU will prove to be that they came to our field and took a gift victory. That will mean they are better than us, but it won't mean they are good. OOC they played Central Michigan, Central Arkansas and Texas San Antonio. They beat Texas, but so did ISU. They beat KSU but so did Texas. Texas also lost at home to Cal and is a major upset over OU from roasting Strong and may get there yet this year. The Big 12 OOC Baylor -- none OSU-- none KSU - none Texas- 0-2 TTU 1-0 (beat Ark which might actually be the best win in the entire conf. even though Ark lost to Toledo) TCU-- 1-0 (beat Minn. possible best win even though they are 1-3 in the B10) Kansas 0-1 ISU 0-1 (and also lost to Toledo) OU 1- 0 (beat UT, also a possible best win even though UT is 2-3 in the SEC and lost to Ark.) What has the Big 12 actually done to demonstrate it is a tough conference relative to any other Power 5 conference? That our best teams are undefeated or 1 loss against very easy schedules proves nothing. You should have a hard time arguing against that when you want to argue our schedule is such it's too soon to say we aren't good. [/QUOTE]

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