This is YALLS year not just to a mere Smoky Mountain Title, but much much more. Nary was time you heard anyone from Swain say anything but lookout for these Cats. This isn't something to take lightly, this could be the crowning Jewel for Cherokee County before consolidation. So yes, unless yall play Swain, THIS FAN IS WITH YOU! Go on and finish the ride out. FEAR THE VEER! (Cough, cough.)
Andrews Wildcat fans!
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I hope your right. They still have a long way to go and Friday night will be a huge test. No matter the outcome of this season for a school with 200 kids the whole community is very proud of them!
I think you’re right, Andrews just plays in a way that I couldn’t see them losing. If they win Friday (which I think they will) they will get home field advantage for the play offs and that will give them a HUGE chance to at least make it to the state championship game.
need to get out of valleytown a little more then son. Tarboro can do everything Andrews can do with 5 times the athletes. You ain't played nobody with speed and physicalty all year and itll show if you make it far enough guaranteed
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Do you realize that the last 20 years only like 3 years (or something close to that) was non smoky mountain conference teams. Nobody hits as hard as teams from Wnc. If the 2017 Cherokee team can make it to state I don’t see why Andrews couldn’t.
That home field probably only happens if another team loses Friday…
It could definitely come to pass. We’ll just have to wait and see.
Cherokee won state in the great value bracket. this aint little A this is the big boy bracket. One smc team that ever won big A and that was Swain with the eastern band all stars. Andrews ain't that Swain team.
Ok I thought the top 5 or something like that got home field advantage, my mistake
Ok so let’s say andrews goes to the state game and loses to Tarboro, Tarboro probably has 5 times the amount of students as Andrews. I’m just trying to have some faith in my little town, because I believe this team is special.
They would probably have it for first three rounds for sure. If top two teams made it far enough then state semifinals would be at one seed home field.
Andrews has all the tools to make it to state this year, there senior heavy and most has played varsity since freshman year. Andrew was a two man show last year but with the QB and their line putting the work in during the off season has really help open up their offense. You can sell out on stopping the run but their just as good passing it.
Andrews could get 4 games at home if they beat Murphy.
5th game will probably be four hrs away at
M. airy or5 hrs away at E Randolph.
Cherokee didn't even win the conference in 2017. Murphy did and got bumped to 1aa.
Tarboro has a little over 500. They have an Early College also.
If we still had 1aa and 1a Andrews would probably be the favorite
Andrews should worry about winning the SMC first. That hasn't happened in about 35 years.
5th game will probably be four hrs away at
M. airy or5 hrs away at E Randolph.
Cherokee didn't even win the conference in 2017. Murphy did and got bumped to 1aa.
Tarboro has a little over 500. They have an Early College also.
If we still had 1aa and 1a Andrews would probably be the favorite
Andrews should worry about winning the SMC first. That hasn't happened in about 35 years.
Andrews will probably be the 1 if they win…. Least that’s what it seems…
Not if ER wins. Don’t think the math works. If ER “looses”, as someone else mentioned, then yes I agree.
mountaineer and Griz are better number crunchers than me but I think if both teams win RPI standings remain the same.
I dunno. I don’t take the time to try to crunch the numbers much. Just seems to be what’s floating around. 1 or 2 it don’t really matter. It’s gonna be a tough road for any team. Gotta play the game.
Andrews is the Tennessee of high school football. They haven’t been relevant in years. Last years success has only created more hype and excitement for their program. Now they are on a mission of kicking butt and taking names. Will they run into a buzzsaw? Who knows. They’re undefeated right now. Go Vols!
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Yes sir I agree and if you have ever read any of my posts you know that’s my philosophy as well. I just looked and both teams’ opponents are 7-2 so that won’t change OWP it would come down to OOWP and I ain’t that smart
Nail on the head, BK. It's a whole other world with no subdivision.
That 2017 Murphy team that got bumped up to 1AA won big in the third round that year over an East Surry team with Ryan Gosnell (VA Tech's #3 receiver this year until UNC knocked him out)--not to mention former NC State walk on Joey Ray and UNC backup QB Jefferson Boaz (but he didn't play much that year). But then they lost to Donavan Greene (Wake Forest's #3 receiver this year) and Mount Airy in the 4th round. And that Mount Airy team that came out of that west gauntlet lost to Tarboro by 25.
The years of having the small 1A bracket where an SMC team would make state almost every year are done--at least for the time being--which is bad timing for Andrews to have their best team in decades. (And ironic, since the subdividing was done for schools like Andrews). That's not to say that Andrews can't make it to state, and it would be an incredible story if they did, but it'll be much tougher than it used to be and it's unreasonable to put that expectation on them this year based on how things used to be.
Edgecombe Early College High School is not at Tarboro High and the students that attend the early college are not allowed to play any sports.
That’s the whole point behind Tarboros ec so they can push a couple hundred non athletes to the ec while drawing football players from a population of 140,000 and stay away from Wallace Rose Hill
They aren’t the only school doing that sort of thing though
140,000? All of Edgecombe County--with two other schools playing football--is less than 50,000. You're certainly right that having an EC lowers Tarboro's enrollment and generally only takes away kids who wouldn't play football anyway. But that's the case for schools all over the state at this point, it's not like it's some nefarious plot by a cabal of football boosters.
That’s why I said classification should be determined by population size
The ec’s charters privates and anything else made up to give any team an advantage would be nullified
Your right about the 50,000 I don’t know where I got the 140
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Here we go with the whole early college thing again. I guess there are none in the mountains
I agree with you on that--put a multiplier in based on the number of people in the city/county for open enrollment/magnet schools (like WS Prep or Highland Tech) or the number of people in the 25-mile radius for charter schools.
You’re right, dodging Wallace. Even though we went to five straight 2a title games from 08-12. Also, undefeated against a team that just beat Wallace in east duplin. Are we avoiding them too? Or how about a Princeton team who beat east duplin, and pushed wallace last year, yet never could even make it to us while they were 1A. Are we avoiding whiteville who beat wallace pretty good in the playoffs a few years ago, only to lose the following week to a team we beat with ease? Yea, you got it, all that to avoid wallace. Make sense. We’ve got some brainiacs up here
Wouldn't waste my time arguing with him man. He's a certified tarboro hater. I quit arguing with him lol. Tarboro ain't afraid of Wallace Rose Hill though I can promise you that.
And the early college takes students from Southwest Edgecombe and North Edgecombe. Why aren’t they dominating in football since it’s such a big advantage?
Because all the football players choose to go to Tarboro
I think there is mixed thoughts on that.
I think that math is pretty tricky and Andrews fans should probably just also be Randleman fans Friday.
They played the entire conference? That explains it and as I said aboveWe seen how that #1 seed done last year against the SMC
Ok let’s look at this logically for a second. If both teams win Friday against teams with IDENTICAL 7-2 records then the OWP will basically be exactly the same difference as it is now correct? ER’s OWP is currently 0.56594 Andrew’s is currently 0.46032. So it will come down, if both teams win, to OOWP (like someone mentioned earlier I believe)
ER’s RPI is currently 0.65919 and Andrew’s is 0.64216.
Well I think you also have to factor in how every team they’ve each played all year does Friday night. Too many variables to really predict when they’re so close. Unless one were to lose.
Anyone in the top six can make it to the title game. Those teams are all strong, physical and well coached so it will come down to execution, playmakers and defense.