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<blockquote data-quote="bobhertzel'ssweatpants" data-source="post: 129354979" data-attributes="member: 1056714">Not to mention you don't have to play everyone in the ACC. Pitt only plays Clemson and/or FSU occasionally (only play them 3 times over the next 8 seasons in the regular season and only once over the next 4 seasons - Clemson in 2016). And they are in the Coastal Division, which outside of Georgia Tech, is an absolute joke. So it is a complete apples to orangutans comparison when it comes to scheduling.No one would argue that geographically, the Big 12 is tough for us. But to say that the ACC is just as tough in football is laughable. While the Big 12 has Kansas &amp; Iowa State, just like every other league has bottom feeders, the rest of the league is solid. Granted Texas is down, but there is no way you can argue that they don't have a TON of talent. And you can't avoid anyone in the Big 12 like you can in the ACC. You have to go through the big dogs every season. Big difference.Not to mention compare our records when we were in the Big East together. That was head to head &amp; comparable schedules. There is a definite separation when you look at it that way (WVU 14 wins Pitt 7 wins head to head - WVU 3 BCS wins Pitt ZERO BCS wins). It isn't too far of a leap to say that our schedule got a little bit tougher than theirs when we joined the Big 12 and they went to the ACC.Having said that we are all tired of the mediocre seasons. It's time to make a move up the ladder this season and I hope this is the year we do it. Not going to be easy though. October is brutal.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="bobhertzel'ssweatpants, post: 129354979, member: 1056714"] Not to mention you don't have to play everyone in the ACC. Pitt only plays Clemson and/or FSU occasionally (only play them 3 times over the next 8 seasons in the regular season and only once over the next 4 seasons - Clemson in 2016). And they are in the Coastal Division, which outside of Georgia Tech, is an absolute joke. So it is a complete apples to orangutans comparison when it comes to scheduling. No one would argue that geographically, the Big 12 is tough for us. But to say that the ACC is just as tough in football is laughable. While the Big 12 has Kansas & Iowa State, just like every other league has bottom feeders, the rest of the league is solid. Granted Texas is down, but there is no way you can argue that they don't have a TON of talent. And you can't avoid anyone in the Big 12 like you can in the ACC. You have to go through the big dogs every season. Big difference. Not to mention compare our records when we were in the Big East together. That was head to head & comparable schedules. There is a definite separation when you look at it that way (WVU 14 wins Pitt 7 wins head to head - WVU 3 BCS wins Pitt ZERO BCS wins). It isn't too far of a leap to say that our schedule got a little bit tougher than theirs when we joined the Big 12 and they went to the ACC. Having said that we are all tired of the mediocre seasons. It's time to make a move up the ladder this season and I hope this is the year we do it. Not going to be easy though. October is brutal. [/QUOTE]

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