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It's not just the gun-phobes who are silent. Where are the citizens of these communities? Every time there's a similar incident in a DC neighborhood we see residents on the news yelling that the police need to do something about all this crime. But let a detective show up asking for information and the battle cry immediately changes to "I ain't no snitch and anyway I ain't gonna help you lock up another brother."
They is the Senate...you know, that job they are supposed to be doing. Every time one of you morons post some Chicago statistic, I'll post about the fact that the U.S. Senate is failing to do their job and playing partisan politics. Party over country.
One has nothing to do with the other - thanks for playing but you lose in this thread
Cause most (I) don't care all that much about inner city gang violence. Much more concerned with getting shot up at a concert because some dbag thinks he's living in a video game and has easy access to the equipment to try for the high score.
Exactly! You're slow but you eventually figured it out. Most of your posts come from way out in left field.
Inner city gang violence in Chicago isn't relevant to the posters on this board. You might as well be posting about the drug cartels in Mexico, probably more relevant since more of us vacation in parts of Mexico than live in or visit Chicago.
There is liberal care and compassion for you. I do care, and I do take action where I can. But if there's nothing in it for liberals themselves, they couldn't care less. But they feel your pain.
When exactly did that happen last?
last time I checked I started the thread so if you're reply is not relevant to the thread, then you're a fvcktard.
First, let's lose the term "gun-phobes" because it's really "crazy-person-with-a-gun-phobes".
Second. inner city violence is a problem for the inner cities. For the vast majority of people it is easily avoided by not going into those areas.
Third. The incidents that get people concerned are because they could happen anywhere, so people don't feel safe anywhere. The Batman movie premier, grade schools, our workplaces, malls, etc. If you don't want to be a victim of inner city violence, you don't go into the inner cities. If you don't want to drown you don't go in the water. If you don't want to get struck by lightning you don't go out in a thunderstorm. Where do you go if you don't want to get shot by some random lunatic with a ton of ammunition?
There's no place to go for that, so you look at ways to keep that lunatic from getting the gun and tons of ammunition.
I understand your argument, but it's a little flawed, as it solely focuses on the smallest part of overall gun violence.
If the goal is to reduce gun violence, then we can't ignore the inner city, however if your goal is to reduce gun violence in those very rare situations, then you can ignore the inner city all you want. Just be aware that most "Mass Shooting" numbers include shootings that take place in inner cities and are only labeled "Mass" because of the number of people involved.
Oh I get what you're saying...but I wonder if you get what I am saying. The kinds of numbers I posted happen all to often in Chicago, but there is no public outcry over it - why not? You probably have a better chance of being killed by a toppling soda-machine than you do a random mass-shooting.
I already said why not. I'm not saying I agree with the sentiment, but people see the inner-city violence as an inner-city problem. Again, easily avoided. The other incidents though are making people realize that it could happen anywhere at anytime.
I've said many times that the solution to our gun violence problem won't have anything to do with guns. Honestly, we should look to the inner cities and their problems and figure out why it's going on and the measures we could take to stop it, and then apply that nationally.
For where I live, I'm not concerned about gun violence at all. I'm just telling you why people feel the way they do. Also, as I've said before, violence like that in Chicago isn't even newsworthy anymore because it happens every day. The only things that grab headlines are things that are unusual. I'm not saying that's right either, but that's the way it is.
Several reasons. No hope, generation after generation stuck on welfare with no way out. Sometimes fathers have abandoned the children. No moral code to stand on. No self pride or esteem. No work philosophy.
The only way to break it is to insert yourself into their world and show them how.
Not a single mention of guns in that answer ... and I completely agree with you.
There have been systemic reasons why things are the way they are as well, and those things need to change. We've come a long way in that regard but still have a long way to go. I think it was Corey Booker that was saying his father had a white friend go look at a house they wanted to buy because if his dad had gone they would have never let him buy it. That wasn't that long ago and it kept minorities in concentrated areas with poor education, poor opportunities, and made it very difficult to get out.
None of that is to excuse the killings, and lack of morality and value of life. But the system was setup to keep people where they are. It may not be as bad now, but when those ideas get implanted in people's heads, it's hard to get it out. It takes generations.
Actually my answer didn't really address gun violence and how to stop it at all. I was merely pointing out why the people killed in Chicago don't get mentioned while the other incidents do.
I was more attempting to address the general tone pushed by many that somehow it's more important to focus in on these "mass shootings" while ignoring the real locations and sources of violent crime.
Sadly....it happens every day even here in Charles Town.
http://www.journal-news.net/page/co...-community-remembers-Ryan-Mumaw.html?nav=5006
money and other factors influencing how close crimes gets to people of power.
There is an assumption made crime in poorer areas Chicago is not politically as important as maybe crime happening in more wealthier areas closer to those with more power.
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Oh, yeah. I understand your point and agree with it. It just seemed like you were implying that I was making a point that I wasn't. That's one of the shortfalls of communicating via this medium sometimes, these little misunderstandings of intent and whatnot of posts. We're good.