????So Stritz got 50% of the NIL?Sounds fishy to me.
1.5-1.7 million isnt 50% of 4-5 million
Iowa also couldnt keep rising star Josh Dix who transferred out to Creighton for $1.5 mil
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1.5-1.7 million isnt 50% of 4-5 million
Iowa also couldnt keep rising star Josh Dix who transferred out to Creighton for $1.5 mil
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"As was outlined during the search, Iowa’s ability to pay players, both with revenue-sharing and NIL dollars (the latter via the Iowa SWARM Collective), will be the biggest key in what type of roster McCollum can initially put together. If Iowa can be in the $4.5 million range, which I'm told is a realistic expectation when combined with revenue sharing, that's a decent starting point."
Before NIL there was always the debate about coaches who could or couldn't recruit, and did more with less, or vice versa. Randy Edsall at UCONN football- many on this board loved him for doing "more with less". Dave Wannestadt- Pitt football coach- always had great recruiting classes but did "less with more".
Does your coach make the whole greater than the sum of its parts? Some places, like UNC, Kentucky, Kansas, they don't have to ask that question. they are so loaded with players that it raises their floor. Of course still not to their fanbases satisfaction- see Calipari at Kentucky. But Iowa, Nebraska, and yes Rutgers- you need someone who can create a whole greater than the sum of its parts.
Here is from last year Nebraska fans talking about their low nil around $2.5million for 24-25
Then here for 25-26, talking about increased nil...$5-6 million..still putting them in lower third of Big 10
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Then here for 25-26, talking about increased nil...$5-6 million..still putting them in lower third of Big 10
In an evolving NIL, revshare landscape, Nebraska basketball is exploring all options to keep pace
Money is a separator in college sports, but never more so than entering the rev share era. Fred Hoiberg is exploring all options at Nebraska.
Pike is terrible, but Hoiberg isn't any better.
Thought you ment Iowa’s NIL was 3-3.5M for 2025-26 and it was 5M for 2026-27. I guess you ment 2024-25 and 2025-26. Got it now. Seems fair. Still 20-30% more than RU and they got major discounts with the Drake players. Going to be hard to replicate that again. They should have a lot more NIL next season.
Yes..not talking about 26-27 because its total speculation for all schools
Yes both schools increased from 24 to 25 and now will likely get much more but McCullum isnt just about paying..he wants fit
Hoiberg isn’t any better? He has coached circles around pike from a resume stand point
Iowa state was a dead stick when he took that job… he was the foundation for what they’ve done since so much so he got a crack at the NBA from it
I appreciate that perspective ….
My big concern is that we continue to NOT fix the foundation of the problem…recrutong high school pkayers that are good enoohh that yoh have to retain them
We only have 2 kids from the class of 2024 and we only recruited one in the class of 2026
we need to recruit 3-5 kids every year so 2 stick …and we keep NOT doing that !!!
I understand and respect what you are saying but when all we hear as a major excuse for why we failed is that you can’t win with freshmen. even of Ace and Dylan’s caliber, why would increase our efforts into HS recruiting when they can still demand hundreds of thousands of dollars before ever stepping foot on a college court?
This year we had:
2 recruits from 2023: Davis and Ogbole
2 recruits from 2024: Dortch and Grant
7 recruits from 2025: Mark, Powers, Zrno, Badalau, Ware, Nwuli, Jones
What are you talking about?
The main problem has been Pike’s poor freshman recruiting and that the ones who "stick" dont develop.
Seems like we’re destined to have at least 6 returning “system” kids next season for better or worse (which ones TBD).
At the end of the day, the trajectory of next season (from an off season outlook perspective) will depend largely on a combination of who we bring in from the portal and Tariq Francis. Whichever 5 or so returning guys come back they will project to be complementary. We can hope for growth but certainly can’t bank on it.
We must add 3 players who would play more than half the game on this year’s team (2 of the 3 would ideally be clear and away good enough to warrant 30 mpg over the options on the current roster - foul trouble permitting). One of them must be a center.
This is what needs to happen to make us a lot more competitive. This would translate into a significant talent upgrade to 40% of our overall court minutes (80 of 200) and hopefully improvement from year over year development from the other 120 returning minutes. Obviously this doesn’t account for frosh coming in and beating guys out, etc. But at face value, this is what we should be hoping for.
No matter what we do - 2 prove power conference level starters is the hard maximum number we’re going to be realistically buying on the portal. So if we wiped out our entire roster and went on a shopping spree, we’d be reeling in mostly a collection of Jordan Dercack types and hoping a bunch of them pan out. We might get one Tariq, but the problem is we’d more than likely get far more guys who come in at way worse starting points than our returners in acclimating to our system. This method would have no chance of working for Pike. Someone else maybe but not him.
WTF???
class of 2022 -nothing
Class of 2023 -Jmike
class of 2024- grant and Dortch
that suppsed to be your uoerclasamwn for this year …and we have four players …
When everyone was celebrating the class of 2024, I kept saying , where is the other guard for after dylan and Ace leave next year ????
Please go look at what the big ten is recrutong as frosh for next year
they are recrutiing frosh at a high level and using the portal to fix mistakes
even Michigan for next year …
But they’re getting and can afford top frosh you can build off of. We get three star projects that don’t work out under Pike for the last 5+ years.
Let’s dig into that statement …that’s not entirely true
class of 2023
Griffths -High 4
Class of 2024
Dylan -5
Ace-5
Sommwrville -4
Grant 4
Dortch high 3
class of 2025
Nuwuki -4 star
Jones -4 star
Mark high 3/low 4 (depending on whose rankings you like )
Class of 2026
Wooten -3
Our issue right now comes still from the class of 2021-2023 run of Getting nothing drom
it didn’t help that we didn’t keep Latham and we didn’t get another guard in that class ….
and we don’t know what we retaib
Now, if you want to say that we aren’t getting the right 4 star kids ….right now , that’s a fair statement based on track record ….
but we have been getting them
part of the reason I’m bewildered was that we needed a good class for next year …and only got Wooten. We badly needed to recruit front court help and we didn’t have a plan B for Adkins or Spurlock……I can’t for the life of me undersrand why we didn’t give out two ships for the front court for next year ….and backfill the portal with upperclassmen
When I say 5 years that includes 2021-23. You cherry picked the years to make my statement look false. Also no chance Ace and Dylan were sticking around for a second year as your plan calls for. As for the “right” 4 stars, either than or we get them and don’t know what to do with them. Case in point Gavin was not given the chance to develop. He rode a lot of pine.
Class of 2022: Chol, Woolfolk, Simpson
Class of 2023: Griffiths, Davis, Ogbole
Class of 2024: Lathan, Dortch, Grant (not including Ace/Dylan because they were never returning)
You said we arent recruiting HS.
We are. Pike has just been poor at it.
Not one of those players was mourned when they left. Nobody was "poached" by a better team.
Maybe Lathan but losing his lack of defense was generally seen as a good thing.
And of the players retained(Davis, Dortch, Grant, Ogbole?) - not one is wanted in a key role next year. Most wouldn't be bothered of they were all off the team entirely next year.
Literally 0-12.
And you say Pike needs more HS recruits?
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Exactly, 21-23 is the problem. There was an air pocket in our recruiting and we have been trying to make wholesale changes to the roster ever since, failing each year.
So I guess we should hire eitherJamie Dimon or Elon Musk as our next head coach.
Rutgers last in the Big 10 in NIL money? I guess you never pay attention to anything the mods have to say.
I think he can evaluate talent, he just can't get it - Ndongo, Darius Acuff, McKenney. We were finalists for all three.
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NC State and SMU were absolutely horrible the entire second half of the season and made the tournament. NC State lost what 9 in a row to end the year? And in the ACC not the Big Ten. RU would have smoked them. Part of it is the conference we are in it’s hard to stack wins. We played 5 of the elite 8 teams on this year’s schedule. Difficult to get enough to make the tournament
You can't just use wins and losses as the only measuring stick of a coach. I look for such things as the way teams execute fundamentals on the court, their offensive execution, their defensive positioning and block out - how they play the post and the passing lanes. Last year I said Rutgers should pursue Shaheen Holloway because of the way his teams did those things. Almost everyone to a T here said there is no way. He's terrible. He's only got 7 wins. The next year he's Big East Coach of The Year ahead of both Pitino and Hurley, two of the best coaches in the history of the game, and after a fourth place finish no less. Hoiberg is not that great.
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It’s not the only measuring stick
he has successfully rebuilt two power conference programs and DOES run excellent offense
Also a better recruiter
I would take him here over shaheen for reference