2025-26 Projected Torvik Ratings

lion1983

All-Conference
Apr 24, 2024
1,254
2,521
113
That is actually crazy still being in the top 100, given RU is still missing 2 likely starters to be added from the portal (2G and Center). I suppose other Big 10 teams may also be missing starters as they may not have finished in the portal.

Of course, these computer ratings are totally useless in the off-season.
 

jerzeyguy

All-Conference
May 18, 2008
3,517
2,600
0
When was the last time we had a roster this bad? Even Hill and Jordan's rosters seemed were more talented. Crazy that we've reached the bottom again
 
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Mholinko

All-Conference
Apr 25, 2023
1,481
2,275
77
When was the last time we had a roster this bad? Even Hill and Jordan's rosters seemed were more talented. Crazy that we've reached the bottom again
it can put an awfully big black eye on the program when you do what we did... or in this case didnt do with Harper and Bailey this past season

i think a lot of people warned and feared the irreparable damage it could cause if we did not come through
 

fluoxetine

Heisman
Nov 11, 2012
23,529
16,898
0
When was the last time we had a roster this bad? Even Hill and Jordan's rosters seemed were more talented. Crazy that we've reached the bottom again
All of Hill and Jordan's teams were a lot worse than #86, so if we are going by these projections it will still be like the 3rd best team we've had in 20 years if you don't count other Pike teams.

Obviously these projections are extreme guesswork but the biggest shortcoming is probably on the defensive side, which leans very heavily on previous year defensive performance. That's why Torvik had us projected in the top 20 (I think, at least top 25) last year.. he assumed an elite defense. The offense projection was not far off. This year he has us projected as #62 on defense and #104 on offense. If we can actually put together the #104 offense there is some chance we can be at least decent.
 

NewJerseyHawk

Heisman
Jan 11, 2007
24,422
38,695
113
It's amazing how much stat geeks put into investment and information and how it rarely works out that way. None of these projections can account for movement up and down in competition level and with so many new faces/freshman involved.

As soon as Lino Mark and Kaden Powers start putting up good numbers, a lot of these projections fly out the window. Mark is better than any RU frosh guard recruited out of HS not named Dylan Harper since Geo Baker. That includes Montez Mathis, Paul Mulcahy, Jalen Miller, Derek Simpson and JaMicheal Davis.....and projects better than Jordan Derkack and Jeremiah Williams, just based on how poor both guards shoot from 3.
 

lion1983

All-Conference
Apr 24, 2024
1,254
2,521
113
It's amazing how much stat geeks put into investment and information and how it rarely works out that way. None of these projections can account for movement up and down in competition level and with so many new faces/freshman involved.

As soon as Lino Mark and Kaden Powers start putting up good numbers, a lot of these projections fly out the window. Mark is better than any RU frosh guard recruited out of HS not named Dylan Harper since Geo Baker. That includes Montez Mathis, Paul Mulcahy, Jalen Miller, Derek Simpson and JaMicheal Davis.....and projects better than Jordan Derkack and Jeremiah Williams, just based on how poor both guards shoot from 3.
Ha, ha ... Geo Baker was not well rated AT ALL, was not considered even a Top 250 player, maybe not even a Top 300 player, coming out of high school. His Freshman year performance cam out of nowhere, and was a complete surprise.

Davis was a Top 150 player in the recruiting rankings, I was certain - pretty close to Lino Mark, if not higher. I GUESS you would have to say Simpson, Davis and Mark were all in the same rough area - if Mark was rated ahead, it was not by that much. Griffiths was a top 50 player, the best RU guard recruit by ratings since Rosario, maybe? Todd Billet?
 

Rhuarc

All-American
Jul 25, 2001
6,466
7,007
113
it can put an awfully big black eye on the program when you do what we did... or in this case didnt do with Harper and Bailey this past season

i think a lot of people warned and feared the irreparable damage it could cause if we did not come through
Money would overcome these issues but we don't have any.
 

dconifer0

All-Conference
Oct 4, 2004
4,327
3,346
113
It's amazing how much stat geeks put into investment and information and how it rarely works out that way. None of these projections can account for movement up and down in competition level and with so many new faces/freshman involved.
It probably pays well, in buck and clicks...
 

red sail

All-Conference
Oct 11, 2007
3,121
2,058
113
Who cares about pre season rankings from where we ended. I hope it lights a fire under the guys who are on the team this year.