KT: loyal?

horshack.sixpack · Friday at 7:15 AM

Or a good professional already?

I saw some taking heads last night say that if he was loyal he would have taken $2MM so there was more money for the team and not had to be the highest paid in the nation.

Made me think. I landed at good for him. If I’m in his shoes I’m taking my market value too. Tomorrow isn’t guaranteed. Do we think the university has insurance against loss due to injury?

ETA: I also thought that one positive educational outcome from NIL is that these players are learning something about business negotiation that is pretty valuable in the real world.

John Deaux VII · Friday at 7:21 AM

Someone should ask those clowns if someone offered them $2MM or $7.5MM, which would they take?

vhdawg · Friday at 7:24 AM

Would you take less money to do your job because you're a fan of the company?

jethreauxdawg · Friday at 7:26 AM

Sounds like a lot talking heads are jealous.

Pars · Friday at 7:28 AM

Same prick from CBS told him to leave to get his money has to pivot to this talking point to save his face
I don’t know who it was never seen him before

DesotoCountyDawg · Friday at 7:29 AM

Brandon speaks for us.

Maroon13 · Friday at 7:35 AM

It doesn't matter what he agreed to play for.... people are going to have something to say.

The initial reaction I saw, from the sec and national, is 'now State is broke'. Which is funny because State fans think his contract says the opposite.

DesotoCountyDawg · Friday at 7:45 AM

Alabama, LSU, etc can pay tons of money for players and it’s business as usual and then State pays for a player it becomes “unsustainable”. These clowns man. Pick a 17ing lane.

aTotal360 · Friday at 7:47 AM

horshack.sixpack said:
Or a good professional already?

I saw some taking heads last night say that if he was loyal he would have taken $2MM so there was more money for the team and not had to be the highest paid in the nation.

Made me think. I landed at good for him. If I’m in his shoes I’m taking my market value too. Tomorrow isn’t guaranteed. Do we think the university has insurance against loss due to injury?

ETA: I also thought that one positive educational outcome from NIL is that these players are learning something about business negotiation that is pretty valuable in the real world.

I. Don't. Give. A. ****.

He's at State. Enjoy it.

jethreauxdawg · Friday at 7:50 AM

DesotoCountyDawg said:
Alabama, LSU, etc can pay tons of money for players and it’s business as usual and then State pays for a player it becomes “unsustainable”. These clowns man. Pick a 17ing lane.

State paying as much as the big boys will be what starts to bring order back to the collegiate universe. All of a sudden you will see the big guys pushing to have rules for limiting compensation so they can go back to overpaying under the table.

jethreauxdawg · Friday at 7:55 AM

DesotoCountyDawg said:
Alabama, LSU, etc can pay tons of money for players and it’s business as usual and then State pays for a player it becomes “unsustainable”. These clowns man. Pick a 17ing lane.

Also, Clay Travis can suck my cowbell. He’s in an industry with no salary cap and I’d argue that his profession is making the American way of life edge closer to no longer being sustainable. He and his “journalist” friends fanning the flames of rage so you can get clicks. POS. Also, writing a book titled “Dixieland Delight”, then telling people you wrote “Dixieland Delight” is Busch league. He knows everyone thinks of the song. I don’t like that guy.

GloryDawg · Friday at 7:57 AM

Are these the same ones who said he would go to Miami or Texas for 7 million?

DesotoCountyDawg · Friday at 8:01 AM

GloryDawg said:
Are these the same ones who said he would go to Miami or Texas for 7 million?

Yeah the guy literally said if State can pay 2 million then he should go to Miami and get 6 million. As soon as the Kamario deal was announced the same idiot says that shows that he wasn’t loyal if he took 7+ from State.

“How can I spin this to make myself not look like an idiot.”

MagnoliaHunter · Friday at 8:02 AM

horshack.sixpack said:
Or a good professional already?

I saw some taking heads last night say that if he was loyal he would have taken $2MM so there was more money for the team and not had to be the highest paid in the nation.

Made me think. I landed at good for him. If I’m in his shoes I’m taking my market value too. Tomorrow isn’t guaranteed. Do we think the university has insurance against loss due to injury?

ETA: I also thought that one positive educational outcome from NIL is that these players are learning something about business negotiation that is pretty valuable in the real world.

He could have gotten more so taking a discount is being loyal to the team, but taking less than what he got is not being loyal to himself.

tcdog70 · Friday at 8:42 AM

KT was coming back--to Me it shows MSU loyal to HIM. If he is worth 7 million -then pay him 7 million. If we can't pay the join the Sun belt.

patdog · Friday at 8:43 AM

jethreauxdawg said:
Also, Clay Travis can suck my cowbell. He’s in an industry with no salary cap and I’d argue that his profession is making the American way of life edge closer to no longer being sustainable. He and his “journalist” friends fanning the flames of rage so you can get clicks. POS. Also, writing a book titled “Dixieland Delight”, then telling people you wrote “Dixieland Delight” is Busch league. He knows everyone thinks of the song. I don’t like that guy.

Pretty sure Clay Travis is more overpaid than Kamario Taylor will be.

POTUS · Friday at 8:46 AM

Rabbit has the gun situation if there ever was one

The Cooterpoot · Friday at 8:46 AM

I'd say there was loyalty to KT, by KT, and to Lebby by KT, as well as the boosters.
Now, how many fans will be loyal by buying tickets next season ?

Shmuley · Friday at 8:49 AM

Maroon13 said:
'now State is broke'.

We are going to have on the baddest of the bad@$$ cashmere sweaters at the dance. We might not have on underwear or socks, though.

vhdawg · Friday at 8:54 AM

jethreauxdawg said:
Also, Clay Travis can suck my cowbell. He’s in an industry with no salary cap and I’d argue that his profession is making the American way of life edge closer to no longer being sustainable. He and his “journalist” friends fanning the flames of rage so you can get clicks. POS. Also, writing a book titled “Dixieland Delight”, then telling people you wrote “Dixieland Delight” is Busch league. He knows everyone thinks of the song. I don’t like that guy.

I really don't believe Clay Travis has any journalist friends. He seems pretty universally regarded as a clown.

tired · Friday at 9:03 AM

When Lebby said they were working on retaining KT, that deal all but done. As I've said multiple times, next year all in.

For once, everyone is pulling in the same direction. I say 17 the haters & enjoy the ride. We will have a competitive team next season. KT is getting top notch care & hopefully soon the team will be.

Chaz.sixpack · Friday at 9:18 AM

It’s an investment for MSU that would make NIL for us more sustainable. If Kamario has a great year next year and goes top 3 in the draft, he will give back to State.

Perd Hapley · Friday at 9:30 AM

DesotoCountyDawg said:
Alabama, LSU, etc can pay tons of money for players and it’s business as usual and then State pays for a player it becomes “unsustainable”. These clowns man. Pick a 17ing lane.

It’s hilarious that by far one of the poorest P4 programs being able to shell out $7.5 million for a QB is somehow evidence that “the bubble is going to burst”. Its also kind of silly that it’s OK for a coach to make $12 million, but not OK for a generational talent at QB to make a little over half of that. Maybe since we’re paying $6-$8 million less for our coach than other teams in our conference, we actually have $7.5 million to spare here?

Bubble just seems to be getting bigger and bigger for right now.

OG Goat Holder · Friday at 9:36 AM

What the doomsayers don't realize is that not everybody can command this type of money. A QB who can run and throw at an elite level is a guaranteed thing. I mean how many wins was he worth for us just this year alone?

triton28 · Friday at 9:40 AM

horshack.sixpack said:
Or a good professional already?

I saw some taking heads last night say that if he was loyal he would have taken $2MM so there was more money for the team and not had to be the highest paid in the nation.

Made me think. I landed at good for him. If I’m in his shoes I’m taking my market value too. Tomorrow isn’t guaranteed. Do we think the university has insurance against loss due to injury?

ETA: I also thought that one positive educational outcome from NIL is that these players are learning something about business negotiation that is pretty valuable in the real world.

There seems to be an ongoing level of confusion about how college football makes its money, and who could potentially be paying these deals. The idea that a millionaire Mississippi state fan cuts a multi million dollar check for a player just to watch his team win on Saturdays is absurd.

DesotoCountyDawg · Friday at 9:40 AM

OG Goat Holder said:
What the doomsayers don't realize is that not everybody can command this type of money. A QB who can run and throw at an elite level is a guaranteed thing. I mean how many wins was he worth for us just this year alone?

Exactly. I think we can all agree the list of players that we would be willing to pay that kind of money for at State is very small and Kamario is on that small list. He’s a generational talent.

johnson86-1 · Friday at 9:41 AM

KT was loyal by working out a deal now and letting it be known that he will be here next year to help with recruiting now.

Did he take much of a discount? Maybe not. I think he probably did take something of a discount, but with his injury history, maybe nobody would have paid meaningfully more than that. But it was good that he didn't insist on testing the market and I don't think he would have gotten less than $7.5M had he tested the market. There have been other injuries, but he has basically shown he is the difference between a 9-3 team and a 3-9 team. He's very likely the difference between a playoff team and championship team for several teams next year, so I just don't see anyway he doesn't get at least $7.5 on the open market.

OG Goat Holder · Friday at 9:44 AM

johnson86-1 said:
KT was loyal by working out a deal now and letting it be known that he will be here next year to help with recruiting now.

Did he take much of a discount? Maybe not. I think he probably did take something of a discount, but with his injury history, maybe nobody would have paid meaningfully more than that. But it was good that he didn't insist on testing the market and I don't think he would have gotten less than $7.5M had he tested the market. There have been other injuries, but he has basically shown he is the difference between a 9-3 team and a 3-9 team. He's very likely the difference between a playoff team and championship team for several teams next year, so I just don't see anyway he doesn't get at least $7.5 on the open market.

Oh, we definitely got a discount.

Bulldog45 · Friday at 9:48 AM

But a lot of the same media types crapping on this talked about how great it was ole Miss dumped somewhere around $750k on a heisman marketing campaign between the sphere and Times Square.

22yardpunt · Friday at 9:49 AM

What if someone comes in (Texas) and offers him like 15? Or aggie, they have all the money they could need and are desperate for a QB.

horshack.sixpack · Friday at 9:51 AM

DesotoCountyDawg said:
Exactly. I think we can all agree the list of players that we would be willing to pay that kind of money for at State is very small and Kamario is on that small list. He’s a generational talent.

His only question mark is durability. That's what made me wonder if that comp is backed by some insurability for whoever is writing the checks. Not dissimilar to COLI, but geared towards injury.

horshack.sixpack · Friday at 9:52 AM

22yardpunt said:
What if someone comes in (Texas) and offers him like 15? Or aggie, they have all the money they could need and are desperate for a QB.

I do think his loyalty plays a role here. If he gets good advice, he never has to work a day in his life, and can still do some pretty fun stuff with play money.

Monmorning QB · Friday at 9:53 AM

horshack.sixpack said:
Or a good professional already?

I saw some taking heads last night say that if he was loyal he would have taken $2MM so there was more money for the team and not had to be the highest paid in the nation.

Made me think. I landed at good for him. If I’m in his shoes I’m taking my market value too. Tomorrow isn’t guaranteed. Do we think the university has insurance against loss due to injury?

ETA: I also thought that one positive educational outcome from NIL is that these players are learning something about business negotiation that is pretty valuable in the real world.

What level of success in 2027 will be the threshold of acceptable ROI? Ole Miss went all out to get Chambliss back for this year and now look likely to not make the CFP. As talented as KT is, a couple of unfortunate bounces of the ball or untimely turnovers could be the difference in a first round bye or a low seeding in the 2027 24 team CFP.

40 acres and a mule · Friday at 9:56 AM

jethreauxdawg said:
State paying as much as the big boys will be what starts to bring order back to the collegiate universe. All of a sudden you will see the big guys pushing to have rules for limiting compensation so they can go back to overpaying under the table.

This exactly. If Alabama or Georgia paid him this, no one would bat an eye. I don't want to go back to the old system of "protect the blue bloods".

TPIPER36 · Friday at 10:02 AM

The National media and Talking Heads wanted him gone so bad from Mississippi State because Mississippi State isn’t a blue blue blood. They don’t want to have to cover Mississippi State all next season but they will because as long as he stays healthy, we will be top 20 top 15. They just refuse to want to belive that. If he took seven mil from Ohio State, Miami, Bama, LSU or whatever they would love this and say it was a great deal. Nooope they have to watch him at poor ole Mississippi state

thatsbaseball · Friday at 10:05 AM

horshack.sixpack said:
His only question mark is durability. That's what made me wonder if that comp is backed by some insurability for whoever is writing the checks. Not dissimilar to COLI, but geared towards injury.

Can State insure him against injury ?

ckDOG · Friday at 10:05 AM

I generally hate persecution complexes but it's hard to ignore being an MSU fan. The media is going to find the shittiest angle to cover anything related to us because we're an easy target. Damned if we do damned if we don't. Always.

horshack.sixpack · Friday at 10:07 AM

Monmorning QB said:
What level of success in 2027 will be the threshold of acceptable ROI? Ole Miss went all out to get Chambliss back for this year and now look likely to not make the CFP. As talented as KT is, a couple of unfortunate bounces of the ball or untimely turnovers could be the difference in a first round bye or a low seeding in the 2027 24 team CFP.

From an accountability perspective, all you can do is measure ROI after the season and see if you want to pay them again. I don't think there is any objective way to approach ROI on the front end. Even if you win a national championship, from a pure financial perspective, there is no way to arrive at a "worth it" value.

horshack.sixpack · Friday at 10:07 AM

thatsbaseball said:
Can State insure him against injury ?

I plead ignorance. I asked a question about that in my OP.

ckDOG · Friday at 10:10 AM

horshack.sixpack said:
I plead ignorance. I asked a question about that in my OP.

I don't see why you couldn't, but it would be very expensive.

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