Mark Pope is following the Dan Hurley model. Just hang in there, guys.

Son_Of_Saul

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Just give Pope time, guys. He will start kicking this thing into overdrive by year 5. It's clear he's following the Dan Hurley model and saving his best magic for later on. We can't be premature and measure his potential success by his eleven year head coaching sample size. That's clearly not long enough to figure out who a coach is and what he is capable of. Yes, we'll have 15 more blowout losses by then and yes we're going to give up the all-time wins lead, but those are small collateral damages in the grander scheme of things.

Pope still understands the assignment. After all, he was team captain on the 1996 team. Those two factors should buy him another three years minimum.

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Just give Pope time, guys. He will start kicking this thing into overdrive by year 5. It's clear he's following the Dan Hurley model and saving his best magic for later on. We can't be premature and measure his potential success by his eleven year head coaching sample size. That's clearly not long enough to figure out who a coach is and what he is capable of. Yes, we'll have 15 more blowout losses by then and yes we're going to give up the all-time wins lead, but those are small collateral damages in the grander scheme of things.

Pope still understands the assignment. After all, he was team captain on the 1996 team. Those two factors should buy him another three years minimum.

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It’s actually really strange how he flipped the switch like that at Connecticut. He went from very average to really really good sort of instantly. I don’t know enough about their program to explain how that happened, but obviously it did.
 

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Pick out one outlier from a different time in bball (pre NIL). At least he got better each year…..Pope has gotten worse.

Amazing how delusional some fans are.
 
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It’s actually really strange how he flipped the switch like that at Connecticut. He went from very average to really really good sort of instantly. I don’t know enough about their program to explain how that happened, but obviously it did.

Hurley signed two Connecticut kids: Clingan and Castle

Karaban was also a New England product.

In short, he recruited his backyard well and those prospects were not busts.
 

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It’s actually really strange how he flipped the switch like that at Connecticut. He went from very average to really really good sort of instantly. I don’t know enough about their program to explain how that happened, but obviously it did.
Go back to his resume prior to being at UConn. He increased the success at other places and brought multiple tournament wins at Rhode Island. He wasn’t hired because he played at UConn.
 

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Just give Pope time, guys. He will start kicking this thing into overdrive by year 5. It's clear he's following the Dan Hurley model and saving his best magic for later on. We can't be premature and measure his potential success by his eleven year head coaching sample size. That's clearly not long enough to figure out who a coach is and what he is capable of. Yes, we'll have 15 more blowout losses by then and yes we're going to give up the all-time wins lead, but those are small collateral damages in the grander scheme of things.

Pope still understands the assignment. After all, he was team captain on the 1996 team. Those two factors should buy him another three years minimum.

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Uconn went on probation when Hurley took over due to violations from Kevin Ollie.
Hurley was handed a hot mess. Ollie ran UConn into the ground over his last three years. Cal handed Pope a perfectly healthy program. Now whomever comes in next is getting a mess, although not as bad as where Ollie had UConn. And with an ability now to quickly fix in the portal.
 

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Castle is from Georgia.
He built his 23 champ with local kids, Sanogo NJ, Karaban MA, Johnson NY, Clingan CT and Hawkins MD. That's also the year they installed their new offensive system, which is what they are operating on to today.

Keep an eye on Luke Murray at BC. If he can do anything close to tourney bid with that program in one year, he'll have programs coming after him ASAP. I'm not sure he's a fit for UK though, almost too polished.
 
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Pope is really just hitting his stride as a coach. The first 12 years are mainly just to get your feet wet in this business. Never want to peak too early in your career.
 
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It’s actually really strange how he flipped the switch like that at Connecticut. He went from very average to really really good sort of instantly. I don’t know enough about their program to explain how that happened, but obviously it did.
It is fairly well known that Hurley was frustrated by his early NCAA tournament failures and changed his coaching to fit the game. For example, he "reinvented the team's style from a traditional setup into an analytical, movement-based offense." He made other changes as well.

Whether or not Pope can or will make adjustments as Hurley did is still not known. His time to make dramatic changes is slipping away. If this season doesn't get better, it will get very ugly.
 

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It is fairly well known that Hurley was frustrated by his early NCAA tournament failures and changed his coaching to fit the game. For example, he "reinvented the team's style from a traditional setup into an analytical, movement-based offense." He made other changes as well.

Whether or not Pope can or will make adjustments as Hurley did is still not known. His time to make dramatic changes is slipping away. If this season doesn't get better, it will get very ugly.
He made a decision to recruit offense and moved to the spacing/action, analytical driven model he's currently working with. Decided it was easier to teach team defense than teach a kid how to score.

Pope is making no adjustments - the dude is cooked at this point and has essentially shown to be incompetent in how he handles just about every phase of coaching.
 
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He made a decision to recruit offense and moved to the spacing/action, analytical driven model he's currently working with. Decided it was easier to teach team defense than teach a kid how to score.

Pope is making no adjustments - the dude is cooked at this point and has essentially shown to be incompetent in how he handles just about every phase of coaching.
I was totally in favor of Tubby Smith being fired (which didn't happen) for not adjusting. Instead, he dug his heels in and had former players talk about his "system" on the radio. So far, as you said, "Pope is making no adjustments." So, unless this season turns around, I hope this is his last.

And, I also think that Cal refused to adjust. He thought that all he had to do was put a bunch of future NBA players on the court and he would win. His tournament success was horrible those last several seasons.
 
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I was totally in favor of Tubby Smith being fired (which didn't happen) for not adjusting. Instead, he dug his heels in and had former players talk about his "system" on the radio. So far, as you said, "Pope is making no adjustments." So, unless this season turns around, I hope this is his last.

And, I also think that Cal refused to adjust. He thought that all he had to do was put a bunch of future NBA players on the court and he would win. His tournament success was horrible those last several seasons.

our players don’t play hard. I mean I don’t care what he fixes philosophy wise, he can’t motivate or inspire
 
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Just give Pope time, guys. He will start kicking this thing into overdrive by year 5. It's clear he's following the Dan Hurley model and saving his best magic for later on. We can't be premature and measure his potential success by his eleven year head coaching sample size. That's clearly not long enough to figure out who a coach is and what he is capable of. Yes, we'll have 15 more blowout losses by then and yes we're going to give up the all-time wins lead, but those are small collateral damages in the grander scheme of things.

Pope still understands the assignment. After all, he was team captain on the 1996 team. Those two factors should buy him another three years minimum.

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Just give Pope time, guys. He will start kicking this thing into overdrive by year 5. It's clear he's following the Dan Hurley model and saving his best magic for later on. We can't be premature and measure his potential success by his eleven year head coaching sample size. That's clearly not long enough to figure out who a coach is and what he is capable of. Yes, we'll have 15 more blowout losses by then and yes we're going to give up the all-time wins lead, but those are small collateral damages in the grander scheme of things.

Pope still understands the assignment. After all, he was team captain on the 1996 team. Those two factors should buy him another three years minimum.

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Mark pope and the Kentucky Hoosiers! Btw he sucked on that 96 team!
 
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Just give Pope time, guys. He will start kicking this thing into overdrive by year 5. It's clear he's following the Dan Hurley model and saving his best magic for later on. We can't be premature and measure his potential success by his eleven year head coaching sample size. That's clearly not long enough to figure out who a coach is and what he is capable of. Yes, we'll have 15 more blowout losses by then and yes we're going to give up the all-time wins lead, but those are small collateral damages in the grander scheme of things.

Pope still understands the assignment. After all, he was team captain on the 1996 team. Those two factors should buy him another three years minimum.

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I was totally in favor of Tubby Smith being fired (which didn't happen) for not adjusting. Instead, he dug his heels in and had former players talk about his "system" on the radio. So far, as you said, "Pope is making no adjustments." So, unless this season turns around, I hope this is his last.

And, I also think that Cal refused to adjust. He thought that all he had to do was put a bunch of future NBA players on the court and he would win. His tournament success was horrible those last several seasons.
The season has started already. Hurley's entire system shift was done around recruiting the types of players he needed to make that shift. He went out and got big guards, spacers. This roster is already what it's going to be.

I think it's a decent roster and UNC & Indiana would be two teams he has to beat to save any face, the issue is going to be defense. They can't defend, and Milan, as good as he is, is not a go to scorer. He's a slow footed dude that can't create his own shots. His open looks at ISU were based on Jefferson and Lipsey being catalysts.

If you want to do what Hurley does, you have to be incredibly intentional around recruiting, get the exact type of kids that fit your system and culture. He found kids a little further down the rankings his first championship and developed them, then got a 5* for the second one. Now he can get anyone he wants.

Izzo's team is made up of a bunch of 4* kids. This is why I said with Pope, let go of thinking you can recruit the top 5* to save face, go find the really good 4* that fit what you want to build and train them up. He's not going to buy his way to success trying to keep up. I think Malone is going to flop too, and I think he's going to flop hard. I can already see him trying to buy success meanwhile his current UNC team has looked like @SS so far. That is not a terrible roster he has. Able, Keyita, Avdalas are a solid trio. And these guys are playing teams like Wyoming and Western Carolina close, at home. He's trying to find his Jokic and calling up MJ to help get them. It's going to blow, it's not how CBB works. You have guys like Hurley, Golden and Izzo who are developing in culture in clear systems.

I know May did it, but he did it with such intention in a highly unique system. Dude was genius, would have been right there with Hurley had he stuck & I think he kills it in Dallas w/Flagg.
 
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I was totally in favor of Tubby Smith being fired (which didn't happen) for not adjusting. Instead, he dug his heels in and had former players talk about his "system" on the radio. So far, as you said, "Pope is making no adjustments." So, unless this season turns around, I hope this is his last.

And, I also think that Cal refused to adjust. He thought that all he had to do was put a bunch of future NBA players on the court and he would win. His tournament success was horrible those last several seasons.
Cal's system would still work if he got top 5 recruits still. Duke does this now. Instead he gets 15-30 top recruits. they just aren't good enough to overpower teams as freshman and he still runs the Umass offense from 94.
 
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Maybe Pope's philosophy and system is just too complicated and too 'deep' for most players to understand. Maybe if he could keep a core group of very smart players for 4+ years that team could be very good. That's not possible in today's game.
 
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