Really weak guard play tonight so far. Who’s gonna step up and make some plays?
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This team has a ton of work to do. Long way from being a title contender.
You go back sit BB against SIU. Blackwell needs to play better defense . Can’t say anything about Wilkins or Drew. They made the most out their minutes but the upperclassmen on down need to step it up the schedule don’t get easy from here.
The better team won, lead from start to finish. Get back in the lab boys, got a lot to figure out with the schedule ahead. Could be a rough non conference if you don’t improve.
Good thing that we probably won't play against a better PG than tonight. Fears ate us up
Well that just happened. Feels like its been a few years since we've been beaten wire to wire. Lots to work on.
If you watch , when Michigan state started watching their defense control those first five minutes is when Fears really started controlling the game . They stayed in Dukes head all game .
if it wasn’t for hitting free throws Duke goes down big . Got to learn from this game .
This team is a terrible shooting squad and Blackwell is overrated. The lack of any shooting is definitely going to be the downfall of this squad this season.
Especially when you feel Duke lost by more than six points. I’m not going to say Michigan State is better but three games into the season they are .
At least the team should see they aren’t invincible. Lot of good wins available on the schedule. Right now MSU is the better team.
still early but this team looks eerily like the last 2 years...a very talented and deep squad, that lacks the basics on the offensive end but can compete athletically on the defensive end. Teams need an identity, players need roles..this resembles an all star squad with neither. Maybe it was an off night, but it was deja vu for me. This is a very JS team.
That was horrible. That wasn't even close to Duke basketball. There was no toughness as far as I saw tonight.
Harris playing better than Blackwell so far. Blackwell is too good to play like this. He did play better late. Next play, but the early schedule is brutal. These are the types of teams we see in March. Still it's just one game.
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I told my son Scheyer is also a victim of his own success. I think he’s lost an assistant each year since he’s been head coach to a head coaching job . Meaning each year you’re reworking your offense or defensive game plan.
It’s the third game in but Army exposed a lot about this young team . Yes Duke won but the scoring droughts, the zone everything that could be exposed or used was seen that game . Six point loss that felt like it should have been 20
It’s an early season wake up call and I’m optimistic they will learn and get better. This is an adjustment Jon not having that one star player, but Jon got really out coached tonight. Get back and get a win Friday and go from there.
Harris decided to leave and he made the best choice . It also took him two years at Duke and his second year at Indiana to start scoring like he is . I’m not worried about Harris actually forgot him but I agree on Blackwell but also the five out offense has many frauds tonight .
I find it increasingly unwatchable... having been a fan for 40 years and the type of BB we used to play...to this...
Scharnowski and Wilkins were far and away the best players for Duke tonight.
I’ll look on the bright side, we got our a$$es handed to us for 40 minutes and we lost by 6.
We’ll figure it out.
Next game I’d start 8 over 30 and 1 over 2.
We’ll figure it out.
Next game I’d start 8 over 30 and 1 over 2.
If Pat had made half his free throws and Sarr didn't blow the layup we were right there.
Was a great early season game by two top teams. Duke will be fine and you guys have a great squad. Don’t want to play you guys again. Best of luck the rest of season!!
Hear about the improvements from Pat and Sarr in the off season but when the chips are down resort back to bad habits. It's early in the season and hope they figure it out. Moment was too big for #30. He was just walking around. We don't need big Pat playing stall ball.
Seemed like when JBB was in there, they put him in pick and roll and Fears would just go right around him. If JBB doesn't get it together, it might be time to start Drewski even though it'll crowd the paint since he can't shoot from outside.
As far as Pat, with the exception of his missed free throws, I think he did all he could.
As far as Sarr, it didn't look like he improve much other than his free throws.
Start the 5 guys who play the hardest.
Hats off to Michigan State. They were better. It’s early, and this team has talent, but it doesn’t have an identity. No roles, and honestly, tonight Jon threw nine guys out there hoping something good would happen.
I think Rippey will be really good, but he and Boumtje found out what it was like to play against grown men. Boumtje has to be tougher. Sarr is the one guy that disappointed me. The saying I’ve heard for a long time seems to be true. Which is generally when a player is raved over their defense, that means they are bad on offense. And that’s Sarr.
I think Rippey will be really good, but he and Boumtje found out what it was like to play against grown men. Boumtje has to be tougher. Sarr is the one guy that disappointed me. The saying I’ve heard for a long time seems to be true. Which is generally when a player is raved over their defense, that means they are bad on offense. And that’s Sarr.
Looking at Duke up and coming schedule it’s a decent possibility that Duke starts off with a 4-4 record. They are 2-1 now with SUIE next (say Duke W 3-1), Illinois (say Duke losses 3-2), Washington St (say Duke wins 4-2) , UConn (Say Duke loses 4).
Rippey and Drewski need to start.. and I personally start Wilkins as well. Big shakeup but last night was rough. Also think Howard and Cam shoulda got some burn.. not too happy neither got at least a chance to see what they could do. Not like boom boom did anything to deserve being on the floor.
I agree with this . When Rippey got back in and broke down two defenders for the layup that’s what Duke needed. I’d start Wilkins and Drew against SIUE. Expected more from Foster, Sarr, Blackwell and Cayden . On to Friday .
We played like a young team without an established star and lost a game in November. I'm not remotely concerned. I don't like it, but I'm not at all worried. We are a long, long way from who we will be come March and we won't get there overnight. Just chill and enjoy the process.
Are Cam Williams and Howard really that behind? Cam was the #3 overall recruit and Howard was #14.
I think a lot are overreacting to this one loss. Dukes schedule is the most difficult path I’ve seen in the last decade (seriously) so they will lose a few more. I still think this is a good team and they will be fine. I do think Rippey needs to start as last night showed this teams needs a true guard and he’s just that.
i’d say the big thing that jumps out to me is if Sarr is not completely locking down the team‘s best player he’s pretty much useless. He is just absolutely horrible on the offensive side of the ball.
I think a lot are overreacting to this one loss. Dukes schedule is the most difficult path I’ve seen in the last decade (seriously) so they will lose a few more. I still think this is a good team and they will be fine. I do think Rippey needs to start as last night showed this teams needs a true guard and he’s just that.
i’d say the big thing that jumps out to me is if Sarr is not completely locking down the team‘s best player he’s pretty much useless. He is just absolutely horrible on the offensive side of the ball.
We got punched in the mouth last night. The boys didn’t quit though, which was a good thing. It’s early. We just don’t have an identity. Once we get that, I think we will take off.
We have 4 guards that played last night, but I think one of them is going to have to take a backseat. I don’t think all of them can play 15-25 minutes and this team be what it needs to be. Makes it hard to get any rhythm.
We have 4 guards that played last night, but I think one of them is going to have to take a backseat. I don’t think all of them can play 15-25 minutes and this team be what it needs to be. Makes it hard to get any rhythm.
I don’t really think anyone is over reacting. I think concern is warranted given the lack of hustle on defense by BB and Blackwell. Not sure Rippey is ready to start or run this team at this point of the season maybe as it progresses. He was getting beat on defense just like Cayden, Foster and Blackwell. The 26 percent offensive showing is truly cause for worry . That and the 3 point shooting like every season under Scheyer . Things to work on .
I forgot the next game is at Florida and how I came up with 4-4. It’s nice to schedule these tough games but I hope the team pulls out a few of these wins. I hope this was just an off night by the team.
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