Worst coaches in SEC history (by SEC record)

615dawg · 2026-11-09T10:04:08-0600

1. Chad Morris, Arkansas 0-14 (.000)
2. Jeff Lebby, Mississippi State 3-22 (.120)* - projected, currently 3-20
3. Ed Orgeron, Ole Miss 3-21 (.125)
4. J.B. Whitworth, Alabama 4-24-2 (.167)
5. Derek Dooley, Tennessee 4-19 (.174)
6. Rod Dowhower, Vanderbilt 4-18 (.182)
7. Joker Phillips, Kentucky 5-19 (.208)

Villagedawg · 2026-11-09T10:09:04-0600

Damn. Just Damn. Worse than I thought.

615dawg · 2026-11-09T10:10:31-0600

Villagedawg said:
Damn. Just Damn. Worse than I thought.

Just throwing those records out there. The fact that we are even considering retaining him should be evidence that Mississippi State University's administration is the problem, as many of us have been saying forever.

March 8, 2008 will go down as the worst date in MSU history. Although there were some good days after, that date sealed the fate of MSU.

vhdawg · 2026-11-09T10:12:55-0600

615dawg said:
1. Chad Morris, Arkansas 0-14 (.000)
2. Jeff Lebby, Mississippi State 3-22 (.120)* - projected, currently 3-20
3. Ed Orgeron, Ole Miss 3-21 (.125)
4. J.B. Whitworth, Alabama 4-24-2 (.167)
5. Derek Dooley, Tennessee 4-19 (.174)
6. Rod Dowhower, Vanderbilt 4-18 (.182)
7. Joker Phillips, Kentucky 5-19 (.208)

Geez I forgot Orgeron's Ole Miss SEC record was that bad.

Villagedawg · 2026-11-09T10:14:53-0600

vhdawg said:
Geez I forgot Orgeron's Ole Miss SEC record was that bad.

Does this mean Lebby wins the NC at Oklahoma? (Only a slight*)

Shmuley · 2026-11-09T10:26:58-0600

You gotta really put in some effort to be worse than Ears Whitworth.

Bulldog45 · 2026-11-09T10:54:18-0600

So we’ve got a chance to lock up #2 all time but no shot at the top spot

DoggieDaddy13 · 2026-11-09T11:02:44-0600

Bulldog45 said:
So we’ve got a chance to lock up #2 all time but no shot at the top spot

And ain't that just the most Mississippi State thing ever? Can't even be the best at being the worst.

17!

dorndawg · 2026-11-09T11:08:05-0600

Bulldog45 said:
So we’ve got a chance to lock up #2 all time but no shot at the top spot

Don't you dare tempt the Indians into getting the 3 wins vacated.

skip dog · 2026-11-09T11:12:02-0600

he can't even win the top spot of all time suckage

HailStout · 2026-11-09T11:33:14-0600

I’d post the “it’s showtime” GIF, but the tears hitting my iPhone screen keep screwing up my google search

gtowndawg · 2026-11-09T11:35:05-0600

Holy Crap. Yet we have some people that want to keep this guy?

Awwhellnaw · 2026-11-09T12:22:05-0600

615dawg said:
1. Chad Morris, Arkansas 0-14 (.000)
2. Jeff Lebby, Mississippi State 3-22 (.120)* - projected, currently 3-20
3. Ed Orgeron, Ole Miss 3-21 (.125)
4. J.B. Whitworth, Alabama 4-24-2 (.167)
5. Derek Dooley, Tennessee 4-19 (.174)
6. Rod Dowhower, Vanderbilt 4-18 (.182)
7. Joker Phillips, Kentucky 5-19 (.208)

What would his record be had Kamario Taylor been hurt or not on the team?

HailStout · 2026-11-09T12:27:27-0600

Awwhellnaw said:
What would his record be had Kamario Taylor been hurt or not on the team?

I think it’s safe to say he would be O for 7 thus far in the SSEC this year, so 1-24

dickiedawg · 2026-11-09T13:21:53-0600

615dawg said:
1. Chad Morris, Arkansas 0-14 (.000)
2. Jeff Lebby, Mississippi State 3-22 (.120)* - projected, currently 3-20
3. Ed Orgeron, Ole Miss 3-21 (.125)
4. J.B. Whitworth, Alabama 4-24-2 (.167)
5. Derek Dooley, Tennessee 4-19 (.174)
6. Rod Dowhower, Vanderbilt 4-18 (.182)
7. Joker Phillips, Kentucky 5-19 (.208)

877-CASH-NOW

Deltaduckhunter · 2026-11-09T13:30:44-0600

615dawg said:
1. Chad Morris, Arkansas 0-14 (.000)
2. Jeff Lebby, Mississippi State 3-22 (.120)* - projected, currently 3-20
3. Ed Orgeron, Ole Miss 3-21 (.125)
4. J.B. Whitworth, Alabama 4-24-2 (.167)
5. Derek Dooley, Tennessee 4-19 (.174)
6. Rod Dowhower, Vanderbilt 4-18 (.182)
7. Joker Phillips, Kentucky 5-19 (.208)

Judging by the total games played, none of those guys made it to year 4. I seriously doubted Lebby would see year 4 after this weekend, but today it appears to me that the administration is floating out there that he is staying. Like someone else said, that is clear proof that the issue is above Lebby.

Villagedawg · 2026-11-09T13:31:52-0600

HailStout said:
I think it’s safe to say he would be O for 7 thus far in the SSEC this year, so 1-24

Probably would have lost the Arkansas game last year too.

BulldogBlitz · 2026-11-09T13:32:20-0600

615dawg said:
1. Chad Morris, Arkansas 0-14 (.000)
2. Jeff Lebby, Mississippi State 3-22 (.120)* - projected, currently 3-20
3. Ed Orgeron, Ole Miss 3-21 (.125)
4. J.B. Whitworth, Alabama 4-24-2 (.167)
5. Derek Dooley, Tennessee 4-19 (.174)
6. Rod Dowhower, Vanderbilt 4-18 (.182)
7. Joker Phillips, Kentucky 5-19 (.208)

We're number 2!!!!

CD54 · 2026-11-09T13:50:38-0600

Bulldog45 said:
So we’ve got a chance to lock up #2 all time but no shot at the top spot

Can't go lower than zero wins, but give us time and we might figure out how.

bsquared24 · 2026-11-09T16:17:44-0600

I'm not willing to put in the effort of pulling the stats, but I can tell by glancing that the Dowhower number is wrong. He was 1 and 15 in his seasons. Not sure what else is wrong. - Lies, Damn Lies, and Statistics

615dawg · 2026-11-09T16:19:51-0600

bsquared24 said:
I'm not willing to put in the effort of pulling the stats, but I can tell by glancing that the Dowhower number is wrong. He was 1 and 15 in his seasons. Not sure what else is wrong. - Lies, Damn Lies, and Statistics

You are right, I put his overall record instead of his SEC record. Move him to 2nd and everyone else down.

bsquared24 · 2026-11-09T16:24:22-0600

615dawg said:
You are right, I put his overall record instead of his SEC record. Move him to 2nd and everyone else down.

Woody Wodenhofer went 4-36 at Vandy, in the late 90's. I don't like comparing to Vandy but the numbers are not correct

RocketDawg · 2026-11-09T16:25:08-0600

I didn't realize Orgeron was that bad at OM.

RocketDawg · 2026-11-09T16:28:43-0600

Awwhellnaw said:
What would his record be had Kamario Taylor been hurt or not on the team?

Likely would have lost both SC and Missouri. So 1-24. Still not enough for first place.

RocketDawg · 2026-11-09T16:30:25-0600

615dawg said:
Just throwing those records out there. The fact that we are even considering retaining him should be evidence that Mississippi State University's administration is the problem, as many of us have been saying forever.

March 8, 2008 will go down as the worst date in MSU history. Although there were some good days after, that date sealed the fate of MSU.

Senior moment, I suppose, but what happened on March 8, 2008? Maybe Keenum got hired? I suppose I could google it but will ask anyway since you mentioned it.

karlchilders.sixpack · 2026-11-09T16:30:50-0600

Head coaching record

Year	Team	Overall	Conference	Standing
Mississippi State Bulldogs (Southeastern Conference) (1967–1972)
1967	Mississippi State	1–9	0–6	T–9th
1968	Mississippi State	0–8–2	0–4–2	9th
1969	Mississippi State	3–7	0–5	10th
1970	Mississippi State	6–5	3–4	T–7th
1971	Mississippi State	2–9	1–7	10th
1972	Mississippi State	4–7	1–6	9th
Miss State:	16–45–2	5–32–2
Total:	16–45–2

This was 6 seasons under Charles Shira. Went 3 seasons with ZERO Sec wins,
How is he not on this list.
The original post indicated , in SEC history.

FlotownDawg · 2026-11-09T16:50:04-0600

Vanderbilt’s 1-2 punch of Rod Dowhower (1-15 SEC record) and Woody Widenhofer (4-36) might be the worst in SEC history. That’s a 5-51 conference record over seven seasons.

Awwhellnaw · 2026-11-09T17:43:39-0600

Villagedawg said:
Probably would have lost the Arkansas game last year too.

Yup.. won by 3 points. Kamario accounted for a passing touchdown and a rushing touchdown. So 0-25… this guy sucks.

FlotownDawg · 2026-11-09T17:51:26-0600

Awwhellnaw said:
Yup.. won by 3 points. Kamario accounted for a passing touchdown and a rushing touchdown. So 0-25… this guy sucks.

And we really only won the Arkansas game because Arkansas had more than 200 penalty yards and couldn’t tackle Evans when he caught the ball short of the line to gain on the fourth down touchdown late in the game. He makes that tackle and Lebby starts his SEC career with an 0-16 record.

thekimmer · 2026-11-10T11:33:12-0600

615dawg said:
1. Chad Morris, Arkansas 0-14 (.000)
2. Jeff Lebby, Mississippi State 3-22 (.120)* - projected, currently 3-20
3. Ed Orgeron, Ole Miss 3-21 (.125)
4. J.B. Whitworth, Alabama 4-24-2 (.167)
5. Derek Dooley, Tennessee 4-19 (.174)
6. Rod Dowhower, Vanderbilt 4-18 (.182)
7. Joker Phillips, Kentucky 5-19 (.208)

And what do you see in common with every single one of these failures? Answer: NONE of them survived past year 3. If we give Lebby another year Mississippi State University will stand alone as the only school on this list that looked at a 3 year **** show and decided, "He deserves another season".

thekimmer · 2026-11-10T11:48:07-0600

thekimmer said:
And what do you see in common with every single one of these failures? Answer: NONE of them survived past year 3. If we give Lebby another year Mississippi State University will stand alone as the only school on this list that looked at a 3 year **** show and decided, "He deserves another season".

I take that back we already did it. Croom was 4-20 (.166) after year 3 and for some unknown reason we kept his inept ***. He somehow won 4 the next season before reverting back to form and finished 10-30 (.250) to escape this list. It also tells us what will happen if we give Lebby another year. He will win 7-8 games if KT stays healthy and then back to the bottom the next season.

OG Goat Holder · 2026-11-10T12:03:32-0600

thekimmer said:
I take that back we already did it. Croom was 4-20 (.166) after year 3 and for some unknown reason we kept his inept ***. He somehow won 4 the next season before reverting back to form and finished 10-30 (.250) to escape this list. It also tells us what will happen if we give Lebby another year. He will win 7-8 games if KT stays healthy and then back to the bottom the next season.

I don't care what the records say, Croom was the worst head coach in the history of the conference. Schedules vary, opposing teams are up and down, but all it took is to watch a game and you could easily see it. In the few games we won, we won small and lost big. Repeated bonehead decisions. Worst uniforms in FBS. Took players out of their natural fits. Blown games over and over when teams tried to give it to us. Continually choosing to play players who were obviously not talented enough. Prevalent injuries and problems off the field. Excuses galore.

GiantInternetAsshole · 2026-11-10T12:07:00-0600

HailStout said:
I think it’s safe to say he would be O for 7 thus far in the SSEC this year, so 1-24

Could be wrong, but didn’t KT score a TD or 2 in that Arkansas game? Pretty safe bet that Lebby would be 0-25 without Kamario Taylor.

Again that begs the question, what has Jeff Lebby done to warrant keeping his job that does not involve the God given abilities of Kamario Taylor?

triton28 · 2026-11-10T12:18:17-0600

Shmuley said:
You gotta really put in some effort to be worse than Ears Whitworth.

If anyone can give him a run for his money, it’s Ears Selmon.

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