Is there a reason we don't attempt field goals?

ugabully

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Anyone know anything about that? Is Ferrie hurt?

I feel like we could have gotten at least one at some point in the game.
 

RocketDawg

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If he was hurt, there was plenty of time to get well since we'd not scored in a while. Some of the attempts would have been long, but he can kick it a long way too.
 

ugabully

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We’re playing to win. When you’re down 2+ scores at all times it would be retarded to kick a field goal. Unless you love moral victories.
But when you try to go for it a couple of times and aren't successful, why doesn't it make sense to get three on the board multiple times? Field goal points count too.
 

BulldawgFan

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That would be better than being a total clown show in all facets of the game.
We have been that for the past 3 games regardless. At least Lebby is rolling the dice trying to turn chicken **** into chicken salad. I am on the fence regarding him but I don’t disagree with trying to win.
 

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I'm hoping that you do it multiple times and regard special teams points as real points. Oklahoma got 9 points worth of field goals today and beat us by 8.
Croom settled for a lot of field goals and that worked out well.

Not only do analytics support going for it most of the time but also, when down 7+ and attempt a field goal you send a message to your team you just want to keep it close.

Kiffin is a master of it as much as he sucks as a person. Theres a psychological aspect to it too.
 

CochiseCowbell

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See, I'd still choose not to get shut out.

ETA: obviously this applies more to the LSU game than today.

But I feel like ending some drives getting three puts you in a position to close a smaller gap if/when you do get some momentum.
Getting shut out doesn't matter unless you've got money on the line.

Winning matters.

FG's in this one & the last don't matter.

POSSIBLE TD's in those situations change everything.

Again, trying to WIN.
 
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ugabully

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Croom settled for a lot of field goals and that worked out well.

Not only do analytics support going for it most of the time but also, when down 7+ and attempt a field goal you send a message to your team you just want to keep it close.

Kiffin is a master of it as much as he sucks as a person. Theres a psychological aspect to it too.
I think it could have kept us in the game way more today and would have prevented the shut out last week.

It's one thing to go for it when there's some precedent that it's going to be successful. It's something else to elect to always go for it when you have a good kicker and are playing with a back up quarterback.

The psychology of it doesn't seem to paying off for us in the last two games.
 
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Admittedly after the half my attention wasn’t fully on the game. When were we in fg range when it would’ve mattered?
 
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ugabully

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Getting shut out doesn't matter unless you've got money on the line.

Winning matters.

FG's in this one & the last don't matter.

POSSIBLE TD's in those situations change everything.

Again, trying to WIN.
That only works if you score some of the TDS.

Sometimes, you might be better off taking the points and getting to win like our opponents did today.
 

vandaldawg

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Anyone know anything about that? Is Ferrie hurt?

I feel like we could have gotten at least one at some point in the game.
My point is that we should not call plays that up the chance of giving up the possibility of losing the option of the field goal. Like say, when you are down only 3, and call the read option when you have fluff bothwell.

if we had run fluff three straight plays from the 5, and gotten stuffed 3 straight times and kicked the field goal to tie, I would have been completely fine with that.

instead, we put the ball in the hands of our 5’-9” / 180 qb and he promptly coughed it up. Game.
 

patdog

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Lebbys 4tb down conversion attempts would be laughably bad if they weren’t so 17ing sad.
 

ugabully

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Admittedly after the half my attention wasn’t fully on the game. When were we in fg range when it would’ve mattered?
I wish I had paid better attention to give you specific drives, but I didn't either. But Ferrie's longest is like from the 45, right?

I don't expect him to hit record setting field goals every game, but I feel like we went for it on 4th enough that there were probably a couple he could have hit, just because there's not that big a gap between where he can successful kick from and where we'd feel okay about turning it over on downs.

Field goals are part of the game and good teams use them. For some reason, we're opting out of that, and I think it's bizarre.
 
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vandaldawg

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I wish I had paid better attention to give you specific drives, but I didn't either. But Ferrie's longest is like from the 45, right?

I don't expect him to hit record setting field goals every game, but I feel like we went for it on 4th enough that there were probably a couple he could have hit, just because there's not that big a gap between where he can successful kick from and where we'd feel okay about turning it over on downs.

Field goals are part of the game and good teams use them. For some reason, we're opting out of that, and I think it's bizarre.
I think Ferrie has kicked at least a couple from 50 + this season. He is a weapon.
 
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patdog

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I wish I had paid better attention to give you specific drives, but I didn't either. But Ferrie's longest is like from the 45, right?

I don't expect him to hit record setting field goals every game, but I feel like we went for it on 4th enough that there were probably a couple he could have hit, just because there's not that big a gap between where he can successful kick from and where we'd feel okay about turning it over on downs.

Field goals are part of the game and good teams use them. For some reason, we're opting out of that, and I think it's bizarre.
Ferries ling is 52 yards. He’s got the leg for another 5 yards.
 

kired

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Is there a reason we always take the ball first?

Do not question the Leb, he’s clearly smarter than most college coaches
 
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kired

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Anyone know anything about that? Is Ferrie hurt?

I feel like we could have gotten at least one at some point in the game.
After looking back at game summary, the closest we came to a FG would have been a 58 yard attempt vs going for it on 4th & 5. So we really didn’t have any opportunities. Scored on two possessions and had two turnovers in their territory (fumble & int). Never crossed the 50 otherwise
 

Bullldawg78

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Ferrie probably slept with Lebby's wife like AJ Swann and all the ex head coaches we hired this off season to help Lebby make better in game decisions!**
 

dickiedawg

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We obviously should have kicked the field goal instead of that red zone fumble and end zone interception. Would have made all the difference.
 

ugabully

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After looking back at game summary, the closest we came to a FG would have been a 58 yard attempt vs going for it on 4th & 5. So we really didn’t have any opportunities. Scored on two possessions and had two turnovers in their territory (fumble & int). Never crossed the 50 otherwise
Thank you for looking at it drive by drive for today. It's hard to argue with that reality.

I think I'm emotionally merging some LSU memories in too, and I want to believe in having better options that failed attempts at 4th downs.
 

CochiseCowbell

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That only works if you score some of the TDS.

Sometimes, you might be better off taking the points and getting to win like our opponents did today.
Our opponents missed those...at least twice.

Down 2 plus scores, it's pointless.

How many scores were they down when they attempted their 3 point plays?
 
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