Campbell Question....

Marshall2323

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He was not paid nearly as much as many other QBs - Underwood @scum for example. Cignetti did not get in a bidding war for Fernando Mendoza and outbid everyone paying him absurd amounts of $$$.... - you're full of it, that's not the way it happened (nor was it the case with Indiana's QB this year, Hoover). Cignetti & his staff are lightyears better evaluators of talent than Campbell & Co. Cignetti did not buy a team a la Oregon, LSU, duhO$U, scUM, etc.... - Cignetti is winning at Indiana by spending wisely and realizing extreme value on monies spent.
38-40 million
 

dcf4psu

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Is there anything that he's doing schematically that is hurting this team or is it just a matter of not having enough talent at certain positions?

I'm of the opinion that it's a lack of talent issue but I'd like to hear everyone's opinions.
It’s a new coaching staff in for most of them a new conference with a team put together very late. That’s a lot of moving parts and it’s going to take time. Time to me means year three.
 

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Those who do not learn from the past are doomed to repeat it. People are not obsessing about the past genius, we're being critical of those who want to go on wasting PSU's precious and finite resources because THEY REFUSE TO LEARN FROM THE PAST. Until PSU fires Kraft they are doomed to repeat his profligate spending on awful decision-making with ZERO ACCOUNTABILITY for his beyond disastrous decision-making and results. If PSU wants to fix this situation, it starts with firing Krafty The Clown yesterday!

Yes, hopefully we'll learn from our past of attaching our allegiance to a university to a past coach, and not repeat that mistake again. We won't run off coaches and administrators because they didn't bow to this deity sufficiently (in frequency or degree), and we won't withhold support (financial or otherwise) based on these perceived/concocted wrongs.
 
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Yes, hopefully we'll learn from our past of attaching our allegiance to a university to a past coach, and not repeat that mistake again. We won't run off coaches and administrators because they didn't bow to this deity sufficiently (in frequency or degree), and we won't withhold support (financial or otherwise) based on these perceived/concocted wrongs.

No, hopefully we've learned to pay more for way less.... so we can do that a couple more times into utter obscurity. Yea, that's what all us Alumni want. LMAO.
 

Rocco3

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Lack of talent is one thing (and it’s big and real), but coaches aren’t helping.. Rushing 3 inside the 15, getting baited into a wasted timeout, etc. It’s Franklin all over again with nicer coaches and worse players. Kraft should be fired and/or should sue Sitaki for saying he was taking the job then didn’t.
Agree but Sitaki would have been a bad fit here. That and he never really wanted to be here. Kraft screwed the pooch at every turn. Sad situation for us but now it is what it is.
 

Marshall2323

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Ohio state won a championship a couple years ago with the backup qb. Just glad I was right about you dripping with tears of joy that pennstate is losing. Hope you threw your PSU shirts in the garbage.
Of course, it isn't like Ohio State's roster isn't populated by 5 and 4 star elite athletes. Until the transfer portal, it is reasonable to assume that their entire QB room was filled with 4 and 5 star recruits, Speaking of "dripping with tears" of joy, remember how all the experts here gushed over Fleming when he transferred here? "The #4 receiver at OSU will be #1 here!" We never learn. Now we wonder why we have no running game when our feature back was at best #3 at Ohio State.
I didn't have to throw anything away. I don't wear a jersey, I'm not on the team.
Penn State's losing is not the result of my opinions. You are just among the sad fanboys that can't admit my opinions, for which I was ostracized, were correct.
Take a a middle of the pack Big 12 roster and bring it to PSU. Surprise, You get a lower middle of the pack Big Ten team. Take a coaching staff that for a decade averaged 5-4 conference record and you suddenly get "excellence at the highest level." If you bought that, I've got a bridge for sale. You are likely among those who will insist that everything is fixed if PSU manages to beat a 2-3 Michigan team Saturday.
Would that be classified as a "big win?"
 
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Of course, it isn't like Ohio State's roster isn't populated by 5 and 4 star elite athletes. Until the transfer portal, it is reasonable to assume that their entire QB room was filled with 4 and 5 star recruits, Speaking of "dripping with tears" of joy, remember how all the experts here gushed over Fleming when he transferred here? "The #4 receiver at OSU will be #1 here!" We never learn. Now we wonder why we have no running game when our feature back was at best #3 at Ohio State.
I didn't have to throw anything away. I don't wear a jersey, I'm not on the team.
Penn State's losing is not the result of my opinions. You are just among the sad fanboys that can't admit my opinions, for which I was ostracized, were correct.
Take a a middle of the pack Big 12 roster and bring it to PSU. Surprise, You get a lower middle of the pack Big Ten team. Take a coaching staff that for a decade averaged 5-4 conference record and you suddenly get "excellence at the highest level." If you bought that, I've got a bridge for sale. You are likely among those who will insist that everything is fixed if PSU manages to beat a 2-3 Michigan team Saturday.
Would that be classified as a "big win?"
Still trying to unload that bridge that you bought from your hero, Big Game? He was going to get us to "Elite" and "Dominate the State" - you don't seem to remember any of the stupid **** your idol spewed.

10 more years!!!
 

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It’s a new coaching staff in for most of them a new conference with a team put together very late. That’s a lot of moving parts and it’s going to take time. Time to me means year three.
Probably the toughest situation of all the major teams' coaching transistions with the exodus of players and recruits, with some influence from an 'internal coup' of departed coach and soon to be departed recruiting coordinator, and just too much time for the administration to act, effectively communicate to all the stakeholders, get a coach committed, or fill in the staff pieces (how much time if any did the D coordinator have in evaluating the ISU transfers and say in bringing them in?).
 
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Of course, it isn't like Ohio State's roster isn't populated by 5 and 4 star elite athletes. Until the transfer portal, it is reasonable to assume that their entire QB room was filled with 4 and 5 star recruits, Speaking of "dripping with tears" of joy, remember how all the experts here gushed over Fleming when he transferred here? "The #4 receiver at OSU will be #1 here!" We never learn. Now we wonder why we have no running game when our feature back was at best #3 at Ohio State.
I didn't have to throw anything away. I don't wear a jersey, I'm not on the team.
Penn State's losing is not the result of my opinions. You are just among the sad fanboys that can't admit my opinions, for which I was ostracized, were correct.
Take a a middle of the pack Big 12 roster and bring it to PSU. Surprise, You get a lower middle of the pack Big Ten team. Take a coaching staff that for a decade averaged 5-4 conference record and you suddenly get "excellence at the highest level." If you bought that, I've got a bridge for sale. You are likely among those who will insist that everything is fixed if PSU manages to beat a 2-3 Michigan team Saturday.
Would that be classified as a "

Of course, it isn't like Ohio State's roster isn't populated by 5 and 4 star elite athletes. Until the transfer portal, it is reasonable to assume that their entire QB room was filled with 4 and 5 star recruits, Speaking of "dripping with tears" of joy, remember how all the experts here gushed over Fleming when he transferred here? "The #4 receiver at OSU will be #1 here!" We never learn. Now we wonder why we have no running game when our feature back was at best #3 at Ohio State.
I didn't have to throw anything away. I don't wear a jersey, I'm not on the team.
Penn State's losing is not the result of my opinions. You are just among the sad fanboys that can't admit my opinions, for which I was ostracized, were correct.
Take a a middle of the pack Big 12 roster and bring it to PSU. Surprise, You get a lower middle of the pack Big Ten team. Take a coaching staff that for a decade averaged 5-4 conference record and you suddenly get "excellence at the highest level." If you bought that, I've got a bridge for sale. You are likely among those who will insist that everything is fixed if PSU manages to beat a 2-3 Michigan team Saturday.
Would that be classified as a "big win?"
 
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Marshall2323

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I use to like coming here to read about PSU athletics and especially PSU football. Too much of you ******** hissy fits about Franklin getting fired. You’re either a PSU fan or you’re not. Go find something else to do in life if you’re not a fan of PSU. Save everyone on here a lot of wasted time skipping over your ******** about Franklin and the AD
Who died left you sole editor of content? I'm either a PSU fan or I'm not? LOL go eat you Lucky Charms sonny boy.
 

barry j fenchak

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You still riding with DoorMatt?
Has he promised "elite"?

Still the president of the BWI chapter of FranklinFanboysForever I see. Jilted lovers are the worst about holding the torch.

Hilarious that you made the "who died and made you ..." statement, when you act as if all you say should be the last word. Basically all you spew.

10 More Years!!!
 

Marshall2323

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Has he promised "elite"?

Still the president of the BWI chapter of FranklinFanboysForever I see. Jilted lovers are the worst about holding the torch.

Hilarious that you made the "who died and made you ..." statement, when you act as if all you say should be the last word. Basically all you spew.

10 More Years!!!
Enjoying excellence at the highest level?
 
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Probably the toughest situation of all the major teams' coaching transistions with the exodus of players and recruits, with some influence from an 'internal coup' of departed coach and soon to be departed recruiting coordinator, and just too much time for the administration to act, effectively communicate to all the stakeholders, get a coach committed, or fill in the staff pieces (how much time if any did the D coordinator have in evaluating the ISU transfers and say in bringing them in?).
The whole situation was botched.
 
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It’s a new coaching staff in for most of them a new conference with a team put together very late. That’s a lot of moving parts and it’s going to take time. Time to me means year three.
'26 6-6
'27 7-5
'28 8-4

No playoff. Does Campbell get to see year 4?
 

o_PSUALREADYKNOW

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The best players on the team are the PSU legacy kids. However, the team is mostly comprised of Iowa State transfers. You can't expect what is essentially a middle of the pack Big 12 team to compete with the better Big 10 teams. Hopefully Campbell can recruit Penn State caliber kids over the next few years. I wouldn't expect much until then.
Let me know when he gets the first recruit of that calibur. I can’t wait.
Clemson's looking to Nebraska themselves if they fire Dabo.

Notre Dame? How so? Kelly left on his own he wasn't fired and to date Freeman has reached as high as Kelly at Notre Dame losing in the national championship game.

Texas? They're not happy with Sark right now and feel he's underachieved, and how has Texas done better? They got rid of Mack Brown and then had Charlie Strong and Tom Herman for seven mediocre seasons before getting Sark who has underachieved.

Georgia lucked out going from a college football hall of fame inducted coach in Mark Richt to Kirby Smart. Franklin's record is better than Richt's btw. So Penn State fired a future college football hall of fame inducted coach for three straight losses to mid Big Ten teams. Brilliant!! Campbell was to elevate the program not put it at the bottom of the Big Ten standings. Have you looked at that lately?

Countless others? I think not. There aren't many schools with Penn State's record under Franklin that fired their coach in the first place.
The last paragraph is haunting…but so true.
Ohio state won a championship a couple years ago with the backup qb. Just glad I was right about you dripping with tears of joy that pennstate is losing. Hope you threw your PSU shirts in the garbage.
As long as you admit when you throw yours in the trash too. Probably be about this time next season. Keep shooting for the stars!
 

Marshall2323

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'26 6-6
'27 7-5
'28 8-4

No playoff. Does Campbell get to see year 4?
I think we see
26- 7-5 or 8-4 (a win tomorrow and the CMC fanboys will declare he rose from the dead and ignore the cupcake schedule. Remember the "floor" for this team/schedule was 9-3.
27-8-4
28- 8-4
No
 

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The whole situation stinks, but it's what "we" asked for.

And who will be willing to come here next?

Underfunded program, entitled and delusional fans- what an opportunity to kill a career.
 
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The silly thing is that most of those transfers - especially the ISU guys - had plenty of "tape" on them.

It didn't take long to recognize that they were mostly - at best - "nothing special".
But the PSU Media went into turbo pimping those guys up like they were rock stars - and the fans (mostly) spooned it down like starving dogs.

That said - as opposed to the sanctions - with the landscape the way it is they could still get a full roster on day 1 (thanks to transfers) as opposed to dwindling down to just over 1/2 of the roster size of their competitors (as was the case during the sanctions) - and they can completely redo/refit the roster in any one year, which, obviously, was impossible before the 100% free-agency every year that we have now.
So a much less challenging environment from a roster management standpoint as we go into 2027/28, than what existed back in 2011/12/13.
Hey!
 
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The whole situation stinks, but it's what "we" asked for.

And who will be willing to come here next?

Underfunded program, entitled and delusional fans- what an opportunity to kill a career.

Championships are the standard.
 
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