Clay Travis: ESPN has purchased the full rights to a 24-team playoff

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Lets go to 64 like March Madness and have some play in games while were at it, "we'll stand a better chance of getting in".

Isn't that everybody's argument, that they just want to get in? Just watered down participation trophies is all it is, like a 1 seed playing a 16

Edited to say I guess that eliminates some bowl games, or, will they just call it the Mashed Potato bowl playoff game ?
 
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This means the ESPN Unlimited App will be way more worth the price. You could just buy it for 2 months and see all of these games
 

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Lets go to 64 like March Madness and have some play in games while were at it, "we'll stand a better chance of getting in".

Isn't that everybody's argument, that they just want to get in? Just watered down participation trophies is all it is
I think it has to do with more games equals more money.
 

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Lets go to 64 like March Madness and have some play in games while were at it, "we'll stand a better chance of getting in".

Isn't that everybody's argument, that they just want to get in? Just watered down participation trophies is all it is
My unpopular opinion is that gambling is driving the train. With opt outs and all, bowl games have become worthless and unpredictable. A 24 team playoff gives ESPN enough content, and hopefully it will create more parity in the sport.

Everyone that loves the 4-team playoff forgets that 88 of the top 100 recruits went to six schools. NIL has helped even that out, now every Power 4 team and a few more G6 teams have a legitimate shot at the playoffs year in and year out.

It won't happen, but I wish they would take the bias of humans out. One model that was discussed early was 7 SEC, 7 Big Ten, 4 Big 12, 4 ACC, 1 at-large and 1 G5. It will probably be the committee voting on the top 23 + one G5 though.
 
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My unpopular opinion is that gambling is driving the train. With opt outs and all, bowl games have become worthless and unpredictable. A 24 team playoff gives ESPN enough content, and hopefully it will create more parity in the sport.

Everyone that loves the 4-team playoff forgets that 88 of the top 100 recruits went to six schools. NIL has helped even that out, now every Power 4 team and a few more G6 teams have a legitimate shot at the playoffs year in and year out.

It won't happen, but I wish they would take the bias of humans out. One model that was discussed early was 7 SEC, 7 Big Ten, 4 Big 12, 4 ACC, 1 at-large and 1 G5. It will probably be the committee voting on the top 23 + one G5 though.
Right on cue.

Top 5 conference champions + 19 at-large

Article also mentions that Sankey wanted $100 million guaranteed to the SEC to replace Championship Game

 

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8 teams in a 24 team play off is probably a lot bigger payday than the SECCG.
It's not. SECCG drew 16.9 million viewers and all revenues go to the SEC. 1st round playoff games only drew 9.9 million and far lesss than half goes to the SEC.
 

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It won't happen, but I wish they would take the bias of humans out. One model that was discussed early was 7 SEC, 7 Big Ten, 4 Big 12, 4 ACC, 1 at-large Notre Dame, and 1 G5. It will probably be the committee voting on the top 23 + one G5 though.
There, fixed it for you. Since the Catholics don't seem to care for conferences and start the season Top 10 almost every year lets just let them start the playoff season as a Top 10 too!
 

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Lets go to 64 like March Madness and have some play in games while were at it, "we'll stand a better chance of getting in".

Isn't that everybody's argument, that they just want to get in? Just watered down participation trophies is all it is, like a 1 seed playing a 16

Edited to say I guess that eliminates some bowl games, or, will they just call it the Mashed Potato bowl playoff game ?

The Famous Idaho Potato Bowl is already a thing though
 

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There, fixed it for you. Since the Catholics don't seem to care for conferences and start the season Top 10 almost every year lets just let them start the playoff season as a Top 10 too!
I wish this could somehow force Notre Dame to join a conference out of fear of being left out.
 
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7 SEC, 7 Big Ten, 4 Big 12, 4 ACC, 1 at-large and 1 G5.
That seems like entirely too many acc and big 12 teams to be guaranteed. Too many guarantees period, honestly.

I like ACC, SEC, Big 12, Big 10 champs plus a G5 (maybe even 2 G5 protected spots, honestly). Top-ranked independent gets a spot if they’re higher ranked than a p4 conference champion.
Then take the best 17/18 at large.
 

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My unpopular opinion is that gambling is driving the train. With opt outs and all, bowl games have become worthless and unpredictable. A 24 team playoff gives ESPN enough content, and hopefully it will create more parity in the sport.

Everyone that loves the 4-team playoff forgets that 88 of the top 100 recruits went to six schools. NIL has helped even that out, now every Power 4 team and a few more G6 teams have a legitimate shot at the playoffs year in and year out.

It won't happen, but I wish they would take the bias of humans out. One model that was discussed early was 7 SEC, 7 Big Ten, 4 Big 12, 4 ACC, 1 at-large and 1 G5. It will probably be the committee voting on the top 23 + one G5 though.
That’s a solid point
 

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8 teams in a 24 team play off is probably a lot bigger payday than the SECCG.

They'll just raise the price or have a "Playoff Package" and charge extra for that...............
They sell advertising for games. They have more games... that means more money made. Does that mean they wont' try to get even more through subscription increases? No, they are always trying to do that but more playoff games won't be the reason.
 

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24 teams is the correct way to go. That equates to ~17% of the teams in the league to make the playoffs (still the lowest of any league, any sport). College baseball and basketball is ~21%. NBA, WNBA, MLS all ~50%+, NFL 44%, MLB 40%. The 12 team playoff was only 8.7%. There really shouldn't be any pushback at all. But we all know folks have to disagree water is wet, just to be that guy.
 
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Looks like first two rounds are on campus, so yeah...bowl games outside of the NY6 are pretty much locked out of ever having a top 25 matchup. Gotta imagine this just hastens their death, which is a real shame.

Silver lining: UM can never make it to Atlanta.
 
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I like it. Bowl games are irrelevant now. Conference championships as well, occasionally. I think this will give teams 12-24 something more to play in the post season.

I will say, I'd rather they keep the bowl sites for all playoff games, including the opening rounds. But I guess on campus games make more money? But for who? OM fan told me last year, tickets were about $300 each face value and a one game parking pass in their same spot was $100.
 

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It won't happen, but I wish they would take the bias of humans out. One model that was discussed early was 7 SEC, 7 Big Ten, 4 Big 12, 4 ACC, 1 at-large and 1 G5. It will probably be the committee voting on the top 23 + one G5 though.
The ACC & Big 12 do not deserve 4 spots each. Name 4 ACC and/or Big 12 teams that deserve to be in a 24 team playoff last season or this season.
 

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It's not. SECCG drew 16.9 million viewers and all revenues go to the SEC. 1st round playoff games only drew 9.9 million and far lesss than half goes to the SEC.
You cannot convince me that the SEC agreed to give up the SECCG without being guaranteed more additional revenue from the 24 team CFP above what the SEC was receiving from the 12 team CFP.

Another consideration - how many more home CFP games will be played annually on SEC campuses and how much $ are those additional games worth to SEC schools & cities?
 
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My unpopular opinion is that gambling is driving the train. With opt outs and all, bowl games have become worthless and unpredictable. A 24 team playoff gives ESPN enough content, and hopefully it will create more parity in the sport.

Everyone that loves the 4-team playoff forgets that 88 of the top 100 recruits went to six schools. NIL has helped even that out, now every Power 4 team and a few more G6 teams have a legitimate shot at the playoffs year in and year out.

It won't happen, but I wish they would take the bias of humans out. One model that was discussed early was 7 SEC, 7 Big Ten, 4 Big 12, 4 ACC, 1 at-large and 1 G5. It will probably be the committee voting on the top 23 + one G5 though.
I guess this is somewhat beside the point, but I continue to be confused by the media rights deal that the SEC signed with ESPN/Disney a few years back. Of the Top 10 watched regular season games last year, the SEC made up 14 of the 20 teams that played, and my bet is that this percentage only increases if you go to the Top 20 or 30 watched games. And yet, the SEC is getting 710M/yr compared to B1G's 1.1B/yr. I'm no expert on this subject, but I think Sankey signed a **** deal and he knows it
 

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You cannot convince me that the SEC agreed to give up the SECCG without being guaranteed more additional revenue from the 24 team CFP above what the SEC was receiving from the 12 team CFP.

Another consideration - how many more home CFP games will be played annually on SEC campuses and how much $ are those additional games worth to SEC schools & cities?
Of course you're right. And actually looking at the math, it does seem to at least break even. SECCG is 16.9 million viewer with SEC getting 100% of the revenues. 4 additional teams after splitting with the other team is 9.9 million * 4 / 2 = 19.8 million viewers. Of course this assumes the new 1st round games will draw as many viewers as the current 1st round games do (they probably won't). I know it's not that simple and I'm sure there's a pretty big guarantee to both SEC and Big 10. And of course this assumes they actually do eliminate the conference championship games. From what Ross says, that may not be set in stone.
 

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Using AP Poll, current playoff:

(24) SMU at (9) Ole Miss. > Winner to BYU
(23) Boise State at (10) Texas Tech > Winner to Texas
(22) LSU at (11) Utah > Winner to Alabama
(21) Wake Forest at (12) UCLA > Winner to Indiana
(20) Houston at (13) Missouri > Winner to Ohio State
(19) USC at (14) Tennessee > Winner to Miami
(18) Oklahoma State at (15) Kentucky > Winner to Notre Dame
(17) Iowa at (16) Mississippi State > Winner to Georgia

SEC with 9 teams in and 8 guaranteed home games. I like it.
 

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Using AP Poll, current playoff:

(24) SMU at (9) Ole Miss. > Winner to BYU
(23) Boise State at (10) Texas Tech > Winner to Texas
(22) LSU at (11) Utah > Winner to Alabama
(21) Wake Forest at (12) UCLA > Winner to Indiana
(20) Houston at (13) Missouri > Winner to Ohio State
(19) USC at (14) Tennessee > Winner to Miami
(18) Oklahoma State at (15) Kentucky > Winner to Notre Dame
(17) Iowa at (16) Mississippi State > Winner to Georgia
Man, what a cupcake draw for Mississippi. Again.
 

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Now Alabama has the right to call everyone a ***** when a team wins the NC for the first time in years or for the first time ever.🤷‍♂️
 

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24 teams is the correct way to go. That equates to ~17% of the teams in the league to make the playoffs (still the lowest of any league, any sport).

That’s really misleading. There are 68 power conference teams. 22 or 23 of those teams are going to make the playoff. That’s about 34% of teams with a snowball’s chance in hell of winning a title in week 0 that end up making the field.

College baseball and basketball are very different because there is a much larger pool of teams that can win a title in each.

In basketball you have UConn, Villanova, and many other much smaller schools who have won a title. Several others like Butler, Gonzaga, and even George Mason and Loyola Chicago who have come very close.

Baseball - Coastal Carolina, Fresno State, Wichita State, Rice, and others have titles and runner-up finishes. Several others like Stony Brook and Troy and USM have made Omaha.

Football went from one of the most exclusive postseason tournaments to by far the most inclusive. This is about money and nothing else.
 

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24 teams is the correct way to go. That equates to ~17% of the teams in the league to make the playoffs (still the lowest of any league, any sport). College baseball and basketball is ~21%. NBA, WNBA, MLS all ~50%+, NFL 44%, MLB 40%. The 12 team playoff was only 8.7%. There really shouldn't be any pushback at all. But we all know folks have to disagree water is wet, just to be that guy.
That’s really misleading. There are 68 power conference teams. 22 or 23 of those teams are going to make the playoff. That’s about 34% of teams with a snowball’s chance in hell of winning a title in week 0 that end up making the field.

College baseball and basketball are very different because there is a much larger pool of teams that can win a title in each.

In basketball you have UConn, Villanova, and many other much smaller schools who have won a title. Several others like Butler, Gonzaga, and even George Mason and Loyola Chicago who have come very close.

Baseball - Coastal Carolina, Fresno State, Wichita State, Rice, and others have titles and runner-up finishes. Several others like Stony Brook and Troy and USM have made Omaha.

Football went from one of the most exclusive postseason tournaments to by far the most inclusive. This is about money and nothing else.
Both good points. That's why I always thought 16 was the right number.

I think with 24, they really need to guarantee more than just 1 G5. Not because I think they can win or deserve it - but just to keep interest in the product.

And if the G6 ever splits, then going to a 24-teamer is a grave mistake.
 
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24 teams is the correct way to go. That equates to ~17% of the teams in the league to make the playoffs (still the lowest of any league, any sport). College baseball and basketball is ~21%. NBA, WNBA, MLS all ~50%+, NFL 44%, MLB 40%. The 12 team playoff was only 8.7%. There really shouldn't be any pushback at all. But we all know folks have to disagree water is wet, just to be that guy.
And all of those league’s regular season games do not have near the significance or importance of CFB. Lose your first 3 in the NFL? No biggie if you are in the NFC South you can still make the playoffs going 9-5 the rest of the way. Lose your first 3 games in CFB? You are done.
 

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I think overall it’s a good thing. For me I couldn’t care less about the small dip shat bowls unless we were in one. Twenty four teams will keep my interest level up through the holidays. And has been mentioned before some of the small bowls could be moved to the early part of the year as Kick Off bowls which might draw more eyeballs than buried on the back end of the year. No stats to back it up just my opinion.
 

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That’s really misleading. There are 68 power conference teams. 22 or 23 of those teams are going to make the playoff. That’s about 34% of teams with a snowball’s chance in hell of winning a title in week 0 that end up making the field.

College baseball and basketball are very different because there is a much larger pool of teams that can win a title in each.

In basketball you have UConn, Villanova, and many other much smaller schools who have won a title. Several others like Butler, Gonzaga, and even George Mason and Loyola Chicago who have come very close.

Baseball - Coastal Carolina, Fresno State, Wichita State, Rice, and others have titles and runner-up finishes. Several others like Stony Brook and Troy and USM have made Omaha.

Football went from one of the most exclusive postseason tournaments to by far the most inclusive. This is about money and nothing else.
Your numbers are also misleading - using your logic 35 Power 4 teams made the NCAA basketball tournament this spring & 31 baseball teams, so half the Power 4 makes the Baseball & Basketball Tournaments while 34% make the new CFP. Those numbers seem reasonable.
 

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How does Clay Travis always seem to scoop everyone in the sports media including ESPN reporting on stories that are about ESPN? He has broken stories about every round of ESPN layoffs including names in addition to scooping Dellenger/Nakos/Thamel/Wolken/Forde on the CFP expansion.

Love him or Hate him, but he does seem to have studied & provides meaningful insight on the subject of the ever changing landscape of college sports specifically football media rights
 

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And all of those league’s regular season games do not have near the significance or importance of CFB. Lose your first 3 in the NFL? No biggie if you are in the NFC South you can still make the playoffs going 9-5 the rest of the way. Lose your first 3 games in CFB? You are done.
Not anymore, keeps the season alive longer. If State starts out 2-2, we used to say we are done and fan engagement diminishes. Now, we will still have hope. I know she is a dangerous lil lady to keep around. But, I would rather have a chance deep into the season instead of hoping for a Liberty Bowl appearance 1/4 of the way through the season.
 
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