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Silver Rain

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Alexander33 said:
Here are some facts for the Mt. Carmel supporters to contemplate. The following information represents the results of the four games played between the top five teams in the state. To the right of each team is the won/lost record of the team in those games, and then the aggregate point differential.

1. East St. Louis (1-0) +19 points
2. Loyola (1-0) +3
3. Lincoln-Way East (1-0) +1
4. Brother Rice (1-2) +7
5. Mt. Carmel (0-2) -30 points

Mt. Carmel better work harder in the offseason, stop their sloppy play, and hire a better coach.
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I think your anti-Carmel bias could use some exponential smoothing.
 
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4Afan

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McCaravan said:
This is crap. Who cares about data. They have 5 State Championships in 7 years. I don't think they will be in the market for a new coach if you referring to them firing Lynch. I've been invested in the school and the program since Reagan was in Office, I'll bet on them over the data.
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Who says Lynch would leave due to being fired? Maybe a better opportunity would present itself
 
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MC63

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JCHillmen10 said:
so now years of coming up short in 5A is further evidence of PC definitely needing to be playing well above 5A? That’s a particularly terrible argument
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I don't know how many years are involved, but PC didn't belong there in any of them.

First of all, they were taking the place of a small or medium level team that deserved to be there. Secondly, any victory they had came at the expense of an actually deserving deserving school.

If they played for the championship regardless of outcome, again, they were usurping someone actually deserving.

Maybe they overlooked the small time opponents. Maybe they shoulld have been seeded at the bottom of 7A.

The worst example of all is Montini in 3A. How humiliating.

Note to Chitown Iish -- CCL big time is anyone usually in the top two levels

Please overlook typos.
 
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chitown-irish

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MC63 said:
I don't know how many years are involved, but PC didn't belong there in any of them.

First of all, they were taking the place of a small or medium level team that deserved to be there. Secondly, any victory they had came at the expense of an actually deserving deserving school.

If they played for the championship regardless of outcome, again, they were usurping someone actually deserving.

Maybe they overlooked the small time opponents. Maybe they shoulld have been seeded at the bottom of 7A.

The worst example of all is Montini in 3A. How humiliating.

Note to Chitown Iish -- CCL big time is anyone usually in the top two levels

Please overlook typos.
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The year pc won in 5a was 2002. That same year mc won in 6a. I guess they are both small class title merchants.
 
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You can’t fault anyone for playing by the established rules. I have the utmost respect for MC, but as far as I know, they never petitioned up when they were in 6A or 7A. Honestly, Rita and ESL (this year) are the only teams I can think of that play up for better competition. Most of the other recent instances were to avoid competition.
 
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Louie1999

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MC63 said:
I don't know how many years are involved, but PC didn't belong there in any of them.

First of all, they were taking the place of a small or medium level team that deserved to be there. Secondly, any victory they had came at the expense of an actually deserving deserving school.

If they played for the championship regardless of outcome, again, they were usurping someone actually deserving.

Maybe they overlooked the small time opponents. Maybe they shoulld have been seeded at the bottom of 7A.

The worst example of all is Montini in 3A. How humiliating.

Note to Chitown Iish -- CCL big time is anyone usually in the top two levels

Please overlook typos.
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I don’t get how Montini playing in 3a is any different than MC winning in 7a. They played in a class based on their enrollment according to the rules. MC titles shouldn’t count by your logic bc they could hang with 8a teams but they didn’t play in 8a. This is a stupid talking point.
 
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