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A silver lining to this crapfest:

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G3624 said:
Does anyone think Franklin wanted fired. I mean that meant he kept his money until he was hired by another team.

Then Kraft couldn't find anyone that wanted to work for him.

Then finally he goes with an offer to Campbell, and Matt has no idea what he signed up for. Sometimes, you have to know how to pick a boss. How long did Franklin work for Kraft? Just wondering.
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There was friction. Two similar personalities. My contacts told me Kraft gave Franklin objectives and it wasn’t well received. I said so at the time on premium and Nate Bauer basically told me to shut up. Remember, the Duke athletic dept is tight with the PSU AD office. I hear things down here.
 
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Psumatt85 said:
I think Franklin was a great recruiter, an average game coach, and a poor coach when he had equal to less talent. That being said, Kraft not supporting him made him worse because he was a paranoid coach. Kraft playing tough guy made him worse. He needed to go, but not as much as his boss.
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Good take, “a paranoid coach.” I’ve heard worse takes.
 
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Rocco3 said:
I just wrote a manifesto on our entire situation. Seriously 14 paragraphs.

After reading it aloud to myself I realized that this whole thing has driven me to the point of visiting the psychologist office. But even knowing that I would still nuke everything from the BOT down and start over. I have for a very long time viewed that admin at PS as being inbreed and corrupt.

Then there is the alumni situation which has been relegated to peasant status and forced to live in the land of the nerds to the point of nerdism, it has become a cancer. All we get from them are nerdy suggestions and nerdy candidates.

I'm trying to figure out a way to dig up JoePa and clone him then somehow infuse that into the university.
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Let Joe rest. Lots of the loyal fan base wanted to fire him too. We are surrounded be Joe "but" fans.
Efejle said:
Only you would know. You've been the biggest blow hard and know it all on this board from day one. Please retire old man. The game has passed you by.
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Must have me confused with some one else. I've told everyone Campbell couldn't walk on water for months before the season started. Not my fault PSU is terrible. But we do have office space, white shoelaces, a ball cap, more media access, shorter practices and culture. Next year luxury boxes. Enjoy 😉
ApexLion said:
There was friction. Two similar personalities. My contacts told me Kraft gave Franklin objectives and it wasn’t well received. I said so at the time on premium and Nate Bauer basically told me to shut up. Remember, the Duke athletic dept is tight with the PSU AD office. I hear things down here.
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True. Oil and water. The stadium project was a big disagreement. Especially with NIL shortfalls.
It wasn't all Kraft wishing to meddle with Franklin. He was being nudged by those who are now in hiding.
 
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Electric Lion said:
And yet..... almost universally, people who know football, not just the talking heads, praised the hiring of Campbell. So where is the disconnect? Were they universally wrong? People came blame Kraft all they want, and he certainly deserves his share, but he doesn't coach the team. MC was given a pile of money, got to bring over all his best players and coaches, got a schedule avoiding the top three teams in the conference, and got an incredible honeymoon period that is now crushingly over. Something doesn't add up. I don't know what that is, and apparently neither does he.
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Kraft must shoulder a significant part of the blame for a disastrous coaching search that lost an entire recruiting class (repercussion to be felt for 3 years) and creating unrealistic expectations (the next hire will bring excellence at the highest level) and spreading outright lies about the size of the roster $$$.
MC's pile of money ranks about 7th best in conference. By the time he was hired virtually every premier portal hopeful had a destination. Campbell had to backfill the roster as best he could.
Keep in mind that these players have representatives that are working without regard to the published dates of the portal. I guarantee you that some on the squad are already reading travel brochures. Kraft got away with making Franklin the fall guy. It's not working this time. But him credit, we have luxury boxes.
 
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G3624 said:
Does anyone think Franklin wanted fired. I mean that meant he kept his money until he was hired by another team.

Then Kraft couldn't find anyone that wanted to work for him.

Then finally he goes with an offer to Campbell, and Matt has no idea what he signed up for. Sometimes, you have to know how to pick a boss. How long did Franklin work for Kraft? Just wondering.
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Well there was the hugging period and then there was the I think you need to do this period. Then there was the I know how to run this program better than you at the end.
 
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Nitt1300 said:
I didn't see any universal approval- lots of people saw the whole thing as a clusterfuk
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Let me be more clear. The hiring of CAMPBELL as a coach was met with near universal praise. The process of how it came to be was a cluster to be sure. His coaching ability was highly regarded. But in the current landscape, coaching ability is not even close in importance to the $ spent on roster construction. As to why 5 star OL recruits are having a hard time blocking against NW and we can't get open with 3 of 4 NW DB's being backups, you got me.
 
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Here's the "silver lining".

A bottom half of the league finish- in spite of the soft schedule- not the best way to attract high end recruits.

Bottom half of the league NIL budget- not the best way to buy the services of said recruits.

Looks more like lead than silver.
 
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G3624 said:
Does anyone think Franklin wanted fired. I mean that meant he kept his money until he was hired by another team.

Then Kraft couldn't find anyone that wanted to work for him.

Then finally he goes with an offer to Campbell, and Matt has no idea what he signed up for. Sometimes, you have to know how to pick a boss. How long did Franklin work for Kraft? Just wondering.
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Given that Franklin said it was his fault and he would get things turned around the day before he was fired and that he thought he would be given a little grace (chance to stay) F
Marshall2323 said:
Well there was the hugging period and then there was the I think you need to do this period. Then there was the I know how to run this program better than you at the end.
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Exactly. And we see how well that’s working. Kraft must be taking lessons from Jerry Jones.
 
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G3624 said:
Does anyone think Franklin wanted fired. I mean that meant he kept his money until he was hired by another team.

Then Kraft couldn't find anyone that wanted to work for him.

Then finally he goes with an offer to Campbell, and Matt has no idea what he signed up for. Sometimes, you have to know how to pick a boss. How long did Franklin work for Kraft? Just wondering.
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Given that Franklin said it was his fault and he would get things turned around the day before he was fired and that he thought he would be given a little grace (chance to stay), I doubt he wanted to be fired.
 
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Nitt1300 said:
Here's the "silver lining".

A bottom half of the league finish- in spite of the soft schedule- not the best way to attract high end recruits.

Bottom half of the league NIL budget- not the best way to buy the services of said recruits.

Looks more like lead than silver.
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BINGO
 
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Psumatt85 said:
Sunday, October 4th. Pat Kraft has not been fired yet.
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How he still has a job is a very sad indictment of the PSU administration - an administration that keeps begging the Alumni for more $$$, but doesn't listen to anything they want. Krafty The Clown has done nothing but decimate PSU's franchise. There is only one way to deal with these empty-suit jackwads - stop supporting the University financially. BTW, why is PSU hiring all these awful empty-suit administrators traditional b1g losers who do nothing but damage to PSU -- Rodney Erickson (Minnesota), Pat Kraft (Indiana)............
 
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