What's the problem with the iowa run game ?

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All of this having been said, the good news is next Saturday we don't have to watch our run game s--t the bed against another P4 opponent.
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TRHawkeye28

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It's been detailed in this very thread.

It's absolutely true
Dude.... 21 attempts for 30 yards. That's not even 2 yards a carry average. If Iowa stuck to the run game like you wanted this game would have been a 40 point blowout.

Even with Hank sucking on the pass....it at least moved the chains enough to get some 1sr downs

The run game has been **** consistently against teams with a pulse - clowns, Michigan and now OSU. It's a bad pattern. Illinois rushed 200 yards on OSU last week
 

DuddyB

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It's been detailed in this very thread.

It's absolutely true
at some point that becomes a tired excuse, w eyes. You have to earn the right to run the ball multiple times in a row. we tried a sustained running game against Iowa State and that didn’t work either.
 

eyesofhawk

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Dude.... 21 attempts for 30 yards. That's not even 2 yards a carry average. If Iowa stuck to the run game like you wanted this game would have been a 40 point blowout.

Even with Hank sucking on the pass....it at least moved the chains enough to get some 1sr downs

The run game has been **** consistently against teams with a pulse - clowns, Michigan and now OSU. It's a bad pattern. Illinois rushed 200 yards on OSU last week
All already been answered in this thread other than the fact you've included Brown's 4 rushes for -14 yards (including sacks).

Also an attempt for Diaz.

16 RB rushes is not establishing the run, nor is it committing to the run.

Did we not hear the announcers use both of the keywords I've used in this thread to describe OSU's run game? Rhythm and lather.

Never given the necessary chance
 

eyesofhawk

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at some point that becomes a tired excuse, w eyes. You have to earn the right to run the ball multiple times in a row. we tried a sustained running game against Iowa State and that didn’t work either.
That's literally the first time in my life I've heard that you have you have to earn consecutive runs. 🤣

No. As mentioned in post #83, Iowa did NOT run frequently vs ISU. No consecutive traditional run plays until under 11 minutes to go in the game!
 

DuddyB

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That's literally the first time in my life I've heard that you have you have to earn consecutive runs. 🤣

No. As mentioned in post #83, Iowa did NOT run frequently vs ISU. No consecutive traditional run plays until under 11 minutes to go in the game!
Nobody outside of the academy school’s give it a good 35 or 40 carries before they give up. If teams make it that number of carries it’s generally because they’re having at least SOME early success.

I will grant you today they were too pass happy early. I thought they should have run more on 2nd down today in particular.
 

eyesofhawk

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Nobody outside of the academy school’s give it a good 35 or 40 carries before they give up. If teams make it that number of carries it’s generally because they’re having at least SOME early success.

I will grant you today they were too pass happy early. I thought they should have run more on 2nd down today in particular.
You’re still ignoring the point about not running on consecutive downs.

I've never seen the run get established or committed to, from a team that's doing that
 

DuddyB

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You’re still ignoring the point about not running on consecutive downs.

I've never seen the run get established or committed to, from a team that's doing that
Yeah, maybe. I just think it’s hard to keep investing series into the running game when given the opportunity it’s been completely benign.

Washington’s got a stout run defense as well so I’ll be curious to see how they game plan for that one.
 

eyesofhawk

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Yeah, maybe. I just think it’s hard to keep investing series into the running game when given the opportunity it’s been completely benign.

Washington’s got a stout run defense as well so I’ll be curious to see how they game plan for that one.
Never have I heard of a series that was invested in the run, that didn't use consecutive run plays
 

83Hawk

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You’re still ignoring the point about not running on consecutive downs.

I've never seen the run get established or committed to, from a team that's doing that
Clearly, you need to call Kirk's call in show to tell him what he and Lester (with their combined nearly half century of P4 and NFL coaching experience) are doing wrong, and explain to them all offensive woes can be fixed, and every game won, by simply running the ball more. And that even though they see these players every day and know what those players can and can't do, your "one size fits all" offensive philosophy is the only way. Tell them the forward pass is merely a "shiny toy". Use your cute little "passifier" word instead of pass.

For reference, have them peruse your posts on this site, so they can see your extensive knowledge and tireless effort to instruct us all, who are not only too stupid to understand the game of football, but bad fans to boot.

I'm sure he will be happy for your help.
 

eyesofhawk

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Clearly, you need to call Kirk's call in show to tell him what he and Lester (with their combined nearly half century of P4 and NFL coaching experience) are doing wrong, and explain to them all offensive woes can be fixed, and every game won, by simply running the ball more. And that even though they see these players every day and know what those players can and can't do, your "one size fits all" offensive philosophy is the only way. Tell them the forward pass is merely a "shiny toy". Use your cute little "passifier" word instead of pass.

For reference, have them peruse your posts on this site, so they can see your extensive knowledge and tireless effort to instruct us all, who are not only too stupid to understand the game of football, but bad fans to boot.

I'm sure he will be happy for your help.
Clearly you need to stop. Basically everything you've said here is mischaracterization.

Clearly you need to get your panties out of a bunch and read better.

Nowhere have I complained about the staff's approach.

As a matter of fact, I've acknowledged in this thread that there are more important things than the run game. And that sometimes you have to do what you have to do.

I'm merely answering the question about the run game.

Again, there is value in establishing the run, and in committing to the run. And I have given the numbers to show that neither have occurred in the 3 games being discussed.

Run the ball
 

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This is laughable. Did you watch the game?

OSU's run defense isn't as stout as Michigan's. Period.

Everyone says Iowa's not a threat to pass. And Brown not a threat to run. So what will your reasoning be when Iowa rushes the ball much better this week?
And so your excuse for IA not running the ball better this week is they didn't try hard enough
Lol
 

83Hawk

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Clearly you need to stop. Basically everything you've said here is mischaracterization.

Clearly you need to get your panties out of a bunch and read better.

Nowhere have I complained about the staff's approach.

As a matter of fact, I've acknowledged in this thread that there are more important things than the run game. And that sometimes you have to do what you have to do.

I'm merely answering the question about the run game.

Again, there is value in establishing the run, and in committing to the run. And I have given the numbers to show that neither have occurred in the 3 games being discussed.

Run the ball
Stop it. There is no mischaracterizing. Everyone here knows EXACTLY how you stand and what you mean.

By constantly commenting about Iowa not giving the run game a chance, and not committing to establishing the run, you are making a direct criticism of the coaching staff (including Kirk, who gives his seal of approval to the game plan), and their capability of drawing up a game plan and calling the plays they feel best takes advantage of their personnel to win the game. This also implies you know more about these things than they do.

Repeatedly bleating “run the ball”, referring to the pass as a “shiny toy” and a “passifier”, and calling receivers the least important position in football (why don’t you tell Diaz he’s the least important player on the team), make it quite clear what your feelings are.

Deny it all you want. Your posts are quite clear. We can ALL read.

I am done with you. You are dismissed.
 
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Rambler Hawk

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Well you're right in that the OSU defense hasn't been anything like last year's OSU defense and they had their struggles last week against a good Illinois offense. I could also point to the struggles that Iowa had running against an ISU defense that was manhandled by Utah at home last week. Iowa achieved 3.2 yards per rush against an Iowa State D that is allowing 4.2 yards per rush. OSU is allowing only 3.5 yards per rush.

In short, don't expect Iowa to light it up on the ground this weekend.
Spot on…😉
 

Rambler Hawk

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21 rushes for 39 yards today for Iowa.
1.9 ypc is pretty pathetic, given that IL did better at The Shoe. So basically we were able to fall forward at the line of scrimmage. We will have major issues going forward if we have to rely on Brown/our pass game, especially given that our Defense is not as stout as in previous seasons…
 
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