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Some weird matches, eg. Chimaev is going to absolutely ragdoll Lawler. They couldn't find someone better than a mid-40's former MMA fighter, who has like a 4" and 30lbs. disadvantage (based on size from his fighting days), and never was an elite wrestler to begin with?
 
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Interesting if they line him up against an MMA guy. Against a wrestler, less so.

Lewis was a very good HS wrestler and probably would've had a good college career, except football.


I’d rather just see him sitting in prison, but I hope he goes in RAF and gets plastered. No better memories than those of him hiding on the bus while Joey Porter was banging on the door trying to call him out.

Maybe he’ll do his ***** little dance if he competes.
 
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I’d rather just see him sitting in prison, but I hope he goes in RAF and gets plastered. No better memories than those of him hiding on the bus while Joey Porter was banging on the door trying to call him out.

Maybe he’ll do his ***** little dance if he competes.
Sheeeeesh!

Why the hate for Ray Ray? I think people forget he turned snitch and testified.
 

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Sheeeeesh!

Why the hate for Ray Ray? I think people forget he turned snitch and testified.
Ray would have destroyed Porter. Ray is a fla state wrestling champ, he was also a runner up the year before.... I think he lost only one match his final two seasons and only handful in his HS career. Just bc Ray wasnt dumb enough to get off of the bus and violate his probation... dont mean that he wouldnt have destroyed Porter. FB... Dan Krider used to give Porter the business on the field in in the locker room... what do you think Ray would have done!
 
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Over half of us are Steelers fans. That’s like asking why we still hold a grudge against gable for the in state tuition thing.

ok, ok. Fair.
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Ray would have destroyed Porter. Ray is a fla state wrestling champ, he was also a runner up the year before.... I think he lost only one match his final two seasons and only handful in his HS career. Just bc Ray wasnt dumb enough to get off of the bus and violate his probation... dont mean that he wouldnt have destroyed Porter. FB... Dan Krider used to give Porter the business on the field in in the locker room... what do you think Ray would have done!
Don’t get your point and certainly don’t agree. Danny Kreider routinely ran over Ray Lewis on the field too.

I don’t think you hide on the bus if you’re that bad a dude. From everything I heard, it was pretty embarrassing to Lewis’ manhood. The probation excuse just doesn’t hold water when NFL team security is handled by a network of former Fed-LEO fixers that make things disappear. The dude is, was, and always will be a first-rate douche from the U.

In regards to us glorifying his wrestling skills, Dude won 1 state title in the wrestling-rich state of Florida (you know, the home state of Cary Kolat, Dave Schultz, and Jeff Blatnick… wink… wink). Maybe his Greco would’ve helped him, but I doubt it. Maybe he’ll prove me wrong at RAF, but I doubt it.

You can like him all you want and have a wrong opinion, but I used to watch a guy named Jack Lambert…. So I’m not impressed by Ray’s toughness, football skill, or his lack of being able to communicate using the English language.
 

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Don’t get your point and certainly don’t agree. Danny Kreider routinely ran over Ray Lewis on the field too.

I don’t think you hide on the bus if you’re that bad a dude. From everything I heard, it was pretty embarrassing to Lewis’ manhood. The probation excuse just doesn’t hold water when NFL team security is handled by a network of former Fed-LEO fixers that make things disappear. The dude is, was, and always will be a first-rate douche from the U.

In regards to us glorifying his wrestling skills, Dude won 1 state title in the wrestling-rich state of Florida (you know, the home state of Cary Kolat, Dave Schultz, and Jeff Blatnick… wink… wink). Maybe his Greco would’ve helped him, but I doubt it. Maybe he’ll prove me wrong at RAF, but I doubt it.

You can like him all you want and have a wrong opinion, but I used to watch a guy named Jack Lambert…. So I’m not impressed by Ray’s toughness, football skill, or his lack of being able to communicate using the English language.
LOL.... I understand being a fan but saying Danny Krieder routinely ran Ray over is Ludacris
You may not like Ray but he does go down as one of the top two or three MLBs of all time.

Nobody but you and Danny Krieders family even remember Danny Krieder... so to say that Danny Krieder had his way with Ray Lewis is absurd.
Jack Lambert was one of the all time greats.... but he was also 220 pounds and would not have been able to play in Rays era.

There is no way... you can look at Ray Lewis and not say he was not a dominant MLB and dominated his opponents. Heck that is why he has a gold jacket

But bigger than that... his wrestling pedigree is better than Porters... and as far as I am aware... Porter didnt have any other fighting skills... so two people who dont know how to fight and one is a state champion wrestler / ill take the wrestler every day of the week

I get you may not like Ray bc of the team he played for but dont let your fandom get in the way of logic!
 
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LOL.... I understand being a fan but saying Danny Krieder routinely ran Ray over is Ludacris
You may not like Ray but he does go down as one of the top two or three MLBs of all time.

Nobody but you and Danny Krieders family even remember Danny Krieder... so to say that Danny Krieder had his way with Ray Lewis is absurd.
Jack Lambert was one of the all time greats.... but he was also 220 pounds and would not have been able to play in Rays era.

There is no way... you can look at Ray Lewis and not say he was not a dominant MLB and dominated his opponents. Heck that is why he has a gold jacket

But bigger than that... his wrestling pedigree is better than Porters... and as far as I am aware... Porter didnt have any other fighting skills... so two people who dont know how to fight and one is a state champion wrestler / ill take the wrestler every day of the week

I get you may not like Ray bc of the team he played for but dont let your fandom get in the way of logic!
I’d like to agree with some of that, but can’t. Lambert could’ve played in every era. His career wasn’t as long, but do the math and you’ll see the stats don’t lie. He’s statistically better than Ray in almost every category. Besides, most NFL linebackers today are around 230/240 and most are shorter than Jack.

Go back and watch some video. There are a few great shots of Kreider blasting Ray at the point of attack (most are Kreider meeting Ray in an a or b gap hole).

Lambert could do it all better than Ray. Well, maybe we give Ray the nod in sacks. That’s only because the Steelers Curtain didn’t need to blitz.

If you ever met Lambert in person you’d know that 220 wasn’t a weak 220. He has that body wrestling fans love - long, lean, and athletic, but sinewy strong. Besides, I’ll take farm boy strength from Mantua over Florida 11 out of 10 times (but I’m probably just Portage county biased anyway).

In regards to Porter v Lewis, I’m not at all impressed by Ray’s wrestling “pedigree” (nor the man for that matter). We can agree to disagree, but I never saw him attempt to shut Porter’s admittedly over-sized mouth.

I’ll leave it with the fact that Jack has 4 rings. That pretty much ends any comparison for most athletes.
 
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Not to assail your arguments or anything, but have you met sports fans on the internet before?
Thanks for applying logic to this statement, but I don’t even have to use it to compare them for @Joejitsu. Empirical facts based on statistics can prove my points. Jack just wasn’t blessed with a 17–year career. If he were, the statistical gap would be much wider.

Now, I’ll crawl out of this non-wrestling rabbit hole. Sorry guys.
 
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