TRIGGER WARNING: Trumponomics Is Making America Wealthier

fsu1jreed

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Maybe Trump shouldn't have torn up The Pandemic plan then supply chain issues might have been that big of an issue, maybe Trump should have negotiated with the Saudis to cut production causing diesel soaring
 
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dpic73

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Thank you president Trump!

A few things worth noting as context, not as reasons to doubt the data:
  • The gains skewed toward higher earners — income rose 1.7% at the 90th percentile with no significant change at the 10th percentile.
  • This data covers calendar year 2025 only, before the more recent inflation and energy-price increases in 2026 — so it doesn't reflect the current economic moment.
  • The agency itself doesn't attribute causes for the improvement — it just reports the numbers, so any claim about why poverty fell (policy X caused it, etc.) is someone's interpretation, not part of the release itself. That's the part worth scrutinizing if this comes up on the forum, since it's where political spin usually gets attached to otherwise solid data. GNcrypto
 

nytigerfan

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Under Trump, ~$3.1 T was spent. Under Biden, ~$2.1 T was spent. ~$2,1 T that didn't need to be spent......

I know you hate Trump, but you have to stop your emotional outbursts when presented with facts. Biden threw gas on the fire. Period. His 12 months of > 7% inflation are his and his alone, and we are still paying for it.
Exactly. Trump is more responsible for inflation than Biden. Glad we agree.

So, do you think Trump's $5k checks ($1.3T) are going to help inflation?
 

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A few things worth noting as context, not as reasons to doubt the data:
  • The gains skewed toward higher earners — income rose 1.7% at the 90th percentile with no significant change at the 10th percentile.
  • This data covers calendar year 2025 only, before the more recent inflation and energy-price increases in 2026 — so it doesn't reflect the current economic moment.
  • The agency itself doesn't attribute causes for the improvement — it just reports the numbers, so any claim about why poverty fell (policy X caused it, etc.) is someone's interpretation, not part of the release itself. That's the part worth scrutinizing if this comes up on the forum, since it's where political spin usually gets attached to otherwise solid data. GNcrypto
The Bottom 10%? You mean the welfare leeches?
 
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TigerGrowls

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Poor magats will lose their $hite with someone suggesting Americans of ALL races, sexes, religions got wealthier.

Bidenomics Made America Wealthier

The booming stock market under Biden lifted the wealth of American households. The NY Fed numbers from 2021 to 2024 show an increase in net worth of about $33 trillion. That’s a 20% increase.
Trying to appropriate undeserved credit for economic success bro?
 

nytigerfan

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That explains why inflation peaked nearly halfway through Biden’s term lmfao keep coping

Given, I am no mathematician. But I know that the inflation rate is higher now than it was when Biden left office. And I know that interest rates were being cut when Biden was president, and now are being raised under Trump.
 

baltimorened

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Ahhh. more dishonesty. In Oct 2020 trump pushed congress to increase stimulus checks form $600 to $2000 per person. Thank God for the congress or it would have been worse. way worse.

So, do you think Trump's $5k checks ($1.3T) are going to help inflation?
do you really think the $5,000 check is reality?? I know I'm not counting on it
 

baltimorened

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Given, I am no mathematician. But I know that the inflation rate is higher now than it was when Biden left office. And I know that interest rates were being cut when Biden was president, and now are being raised under Trump.
It's fun watching all this back and forth as to which was worse....when in reality, Both trump, Biden and you might even throw in Bush and Obama as causes for our debt. There are multiple reasons why we're in the debt position we are today. And while it's a great mental gyration to try to "one up" guys on the other side of the political fence everyone knows why inflation ran so high during Biden and everyone knows why it's running hot now.

For me, it's much more interesting to see ideas on where do we go from here. We're $40tillion in debt and trump's 10 year plan estimates another $15.7 trillion during that period (which is down, not significantly, from Biden's final 10 year estimates of $16.3 trillion). So, think about that....based on current projections we'll be at $55.7 trillion debt in 2036...and we're concerned now about our kids and grandkids futures???

Ironically, I haven't seen anyone running for office even mention this...hear about Medicare for all, free college, $5,000 checks, increased child tax credits....but not decreased spending or higher taxes. You younger guys calling for all the benefits/tax the rich, really are going to be the ones between the rock and hard place, and apparently don't know it.
 

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Exactly. Trump is more responsible for inflation than Biden. Glad we agree.

So, do you think Trump's $5k checks ($1.3T) are going to help inflation?

LOL... you forgot that millions of Americans lost their jobs under Trump. Are you suggesting we should have told them to lift themselves up by their bootstraps?

You cultists can't get out of your own way. It's pathetic. By the time Biden started throwing gas on the fire, employment had rebounded.

12 months over 7%. We are paying for that today.
 

nytigerfan

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LOL... you forgot that millions of Americans lost their jobs under Trump. Are you suggesting we should have told them to lift themselves up by their bootstraps?

You cultists can't get out of your own way. It's pathetic. By the time Biden started throwing gas on the fire, employment had rebounded.

12 months over 7%. We are paying for that today.
LOL... you forgot that millions of Americans lost their jobs under Trump. Are you suggesting we should have told them to lift themselves up by their bootstraps?

You cultists can't get out of your own way. It's pathetic. By the time Biden started throwing gas on the fire, employment had rebounded.

12 months over 7%. We are paying for that today.

You are adorable that you think all that money went to people who were unemployed. Let's not forget all the employers who got shitloads of cash and didn't have to pay it back. Trump's stimulus plan was an absolute colossal clusterfuck. I'm kicking myself for how dumb I was for actually taking out a government disaster relief loan when COVID started and paid it back with ******* interest after not spending a dime of it. I should have waited for trump's handouts. Just like all those Republican Congress people did: just take the money and never pay it back.
 
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do you really think the $5,000 check is reality?? I know I'm not counting on it

The president said it was real, he doubled down on it more than once. Are you saying we should not believe the president?

Honestly, Ned, I think you're worse than these MAGA idiots on the board. Your whole attitude can be encapsulated by this one sentence. "Trump lies all the time, so why do we make such a big deal every time he lies?"
 
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You are adorable that you think all that money went to people who were unemployed. Let's not forget all the employers who got shitloads of cash and didn't have to pay it back. Trump's stimulus plan was an absolute colossal clusterfuck. I'm kicking myself for how dumb I was for actually taking out a government disaster relief loan when COVID started and paid it back with ******* interest after not spending a dime of it. I should have waited for trump's handouts. Just like all those Republican Congress people did: just take the money and never pay it back.

I am adorable. When the government creates a program, one of three things happens.

1.) it is used as intended
2.) it gets abused / exploited
3.) someone finds a way around it

So, no, I don't believe ALL THAT MONEY went to the unemployed. All one need do is read the news daily to see how much was stolen or wasted (which is typical of government). You see, when you have pile of money, lefties come to it like flies find dung.

That said, there is no denying the fact that the unemployment rate went from 4.4% to 14.8% in one month which was the motivation.

https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/unemployment-rate
 

m.knox

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The president said it was real, he doubled down on it more than once. Are you saying we should not believe the president?

Honestly, Ned, I think you're worse than these MAGA idiots on the board. Your whole attitude can be encapsulated by this one sentence. "Trump lies all the time, so why do we make such a big deal every time he lies?"

I swear you guys take everything Trump says 100% literally so you can experience OUTRAGE. It's self fulfilling.
 

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Maybe Trump shouldn't have torn up The Pandemic plan then supply chain issues might have been that big of an issue.

The "pandemic plan", as you call it, left in place by the Obama administration was a complete joke given the reality of a global event like the one we experienced,... If you'll recall at the start of the of the pandemic, the "plan", called for the CDC to be sole entity responsible for development, manufacture, distribution, and delivery of any and all vaccine therapies,... There was no pandemic plan.
 

dpic73

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I swear you guys take everything Trump says 100% literally so you can experience OUTRAGE. It's self fulfilling.
So we shouldn't take our own president at his word? Thanks for admitting that you KNOW he's a bald faced liar and you don't care because a twitch streamer said something that bothered you.
 
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nytigerfan

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I am adorable. When the government creates a program, one of three things happens.

1.) it is used as intended
2.) it gets abused / exploited
3.) someone finds a way around it

So, no, I don't believe ALL THAT MONEY went to the unemployed. All one need do is read the news daily to see how much was stolen or wasted (which is typical of government). You see, when you have pile of money, lefties come to it like flies find dung.

That said, there is no denying the fact that the unemployment rate went from 4.4% to 14.8% in one month which was the motivation.

https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/unemployment-rate

Yes, and it was still at 6.4% when biden took office. it did not reach pre-pandemic levels until nov 2021. So, by your own logic, biden was correct to issue more stimulus.

Man, I love debating you. You make all my points for me without even realizing it.
 

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Yes, and it was still at 6.4% when biden took office. it did not reach pre-pandemic levels until nov 2021. So, by your own logic, biden was correct to issue more stimulus.

Man, I love debating you. You make all my points for me without even realizing it.

You could have been president and it would have come down. 14.8% unemployment is unprecedented. LOL.. You are hilarious, and made my point for me.
 

m.knox

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We are worse off - the numbers don't lie.


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Yeah, we were all better off with 12 months of >7% inflation.......

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dpic73

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Yeah, we were all better off with 12 months of >7% inflation.......

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Yes we were. Speaking from personal experience, the economy was roaring over the course of Biden's last two years and my company was setting previously unthinkable sales records. Then Trump came in and started his tariff war and we lost multiple huge projects from our biggest clients specifically because of the costs associated with the tariffs and they've been laying off people ever since.

HAHA that you imbecilic oaf.
 

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Yes we were. Speaking from personal experience, the economy was roaring over the course of Biden's last two years and my company was setting previously unthinkable sales records. Then Trump came in and started his tariff war and we lost multiple huge projects from our biggest clients specifically because of the costs associated with the tariffs and they've been laying off people ever since.

HAHA that you imbecilic oaf.

We're seeing the exact opposite. Business is solid and we import a ton of goods.
 
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The president said it was real, he doubled down on it more than once. Are you saying we should not believe the president?

Honestly, Ned, I think you're worse than these MAGA idiots on the board. Your whole attitude can be encapsulated by this one sentence. "Trump lies all the time, so why do we make such a big deal every time he lies?"
well, here's my viewpoint.....most on here don't believe what trump says until he says something that agrees with their bias...so they claim trump lies all the time, until he doesn't...

So my point is, is you believe trump lies all the time (I don't, by the way), then why do you place so much emphasis or concern on what he says. Because when you do that you're saying he doesn't lie all the time.

Trump says/promises thing that any rational human should know he doesn't have the sole power to do....for example, he's going to end the Ukraine war, or end inflation on day 1. We all knew he couldn't do that...so we put a lot of emphasis on it even though we know it wasn't possible.

And, oh by the way, he's not the sole politician who does this..Mandani, who does not control the MTA promised free fare, yet that decicison wasn't/isn't his...

So why do we put some much emphasis everytime he lies? I know I don't, because I don't believe everything he says...I didn't believe everything Biden or Obama or Bush said either...
 
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So we shouldn't take our own president at his word? Thanks for admitting that you KNOW he's a bald faced liar and you don't care because a twitch streamer said something that bothered you.
tell me dpic that you take everything Trump or every other politician says as true? Did you believe Biden when he said "the border is secure" on when he said "I've done everything I can on the border"? (until weeks before the election when he took steps to close the border.

All politicians say things that are not accurate.
 
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tell me dpic that you take everything Trump or every other politician says as true? Did you believe Biden when he said "the border is secure" on when he said "I've done everything I can on the border"? (until weeks before the election when he took steps to close the border.

All politicians say things that are not accurate.
But, but, but Biden is so over-played and not remotely comparable to the never-ending avalanche of lies, including the Biggest Lie in political history, cascading from the mouth of this corrupt Neanderthal. I honestly didn't know what to think about Biden's words concerning the border but I feel like he believed what he was saying(and it cost him).

This president lies just to lie for reasons big and small and for no reason at all. That should matter to you and you can't wave it away by pointing to something someone else said. Remember, you knew he was lying about the election, which he's still doing today and you still found him fit enough to be re-elected anyway. I would have never re-elected a democratic president who did the same.

These two things are not the same
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baltimorened

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Magidiots: "Trump is the greatest president of all time. Of course, you can't take what he says literally."
let's be fair here...not all Republicans or even those you refer to as Magidiots believe what you posted...
But, but, but Biden is so over-played and not remotely comparable to the never-ending avalanche of lies, including the Biggest Lie in political history, cascading from the mouth of this corrupt Neanderthal. I honestly didn't know what to think about Biden's words concerning the border but I feel like he believed what he was saying(and it cost him).

This president lies just to lie for reasons big and small and for no reason at all. That should matter to you and you can't wave it away by pointing to something someone else said. Remember, you knew he was lying about the election, which he's still doing today and you still found him fit enough to be re-elected anyway. I would have never re-elected a democratic president who did the same.

These two things are not the same
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just trying to point out to you that politicians have been lying to Americans for decades (maybe centuries). Now you might be 100% right about trump lying more than any other President in history. I personally have no idea if you're right or wrong.

I tend to disagree that he lies for no reason, every person who lies has a reason, maybe not a good one.

What I find is that when one party's president says A, the followers of the other say "liar" when what A does not happen exactly as the statement is interpreted. And, you might not be surprised at this, but when president of the other says B and it doesn't happen, the As follow the sate tactic as the Bs did.

If you changed the names in some of the posts now from Trump to Biden, we'd see that a lot of the statements made about trump now were made about Biden then...the only difference is that posters on your side were the defenders then and folks like fatpiggy were the attackers..topics might have been different - Iran war vs afgahnistan withdrawal - but many of the words/statements/accusations were similar. It's kind of human nature
 

dpic73

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Now you might be 100% right about trump lying more than any other President in history. I personally have no idea if you're right or wrong.

If you changed the names in some of the posts now from Trump to Biden, we'd see that a lot of the statements made about trump now were made about Biden then...the only difference is that posters on your side were the defenders then and folks like fatpiggy were the attackers..topics might have been different - Iran war vs afgahnistan withdrawal - but many of the words/statements/accusations were similar. It's kind of human nature


Holy sh*t, you are not credible. Enjoy the delusions that protect your conscience I guess.
 
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