OT- How we feeling about taxes in NE?

UltimateGarageHusker

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I got an idea. Why don’t we say “thank you” to that upper bracket. And then come up with a plan to stop spending all their money and they might be willing to help more. All they see now is a waste of their money and a bunch of idiots demanding more waste. Because at this point that’s all we are doing is wasting it.
 

Huskers12345

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If we increased tax receipts by 100%, they’d burn through that and then some, and then cry about needing more.
I know. It's crazy. Trump was in charge during the 3 highest spending fiscal years in the history of our country. And he just keeps wanting more to waste. It's like bro, this isn't one of your casinos that you can just declare bankruptcy. Some of us our responsible for this debt.
 

Huskers12345

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I got an idea. Why don’t we say “thank you” to that upper bracket. And then come up with a plan to stop spending all their money and they might be willing to help more. All they see now is a waste of their money and a bunch of idiots demanding more waste. Because at this point that’s all we are doing is wasting it.
Totally agree. I feel underappreciated too. The Israeli's never send me a thank you card for the missiles we waste on them.
 

steinek11

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I know. It's crazy. Trump was in charge during the 3 highest spending fiscal years in the history of our country. And he just keeps wanting more to waste. It's like bro, this isn't one of your casinos that you can just declare bankruptcy. Some of us our responsible for this debt.
Yep, being fiscally responsible is pretty much impossible today within the public sector. Trump failed spectacularly here. I never held much hope he’d be different. Being a showman cant be cheap.

I expect we’ll see a complete collapse before these idiots wake up.
 

HuskerO58

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I know. It's crazy. Trump was in charge during the 3 highest spending fiscal years in the history of our country. And he just keeps wanting more to waste. It's like bro, this isn't one of your casinos that you can just declare bankruptcy. Some of us our responsible for this debt.
It would have been interesting to see how the deficit would've been had Covid never happened. But I agree, the US was still always over budget during his pre-Covid tenure.
 

TruHusker

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I know. It's crazy. Trump was in charge during the 3 highest spending fiscal years in the history of our country. And he just keeps wanting more to waste. It's like bro, this isn't one of your casinos that you can just declare bankruptcy. Some of us our responsible for this debt.
Once the deficit starts and interest starts to compound, it will be become more and more difficult to solve. Its just like a high interest credit card that paying the minimum never works well on. The first place to start would be a balanced budget which would be a huge battle in congress. I suspect you would even have a difficult time achieving that the current "tax the rich" banter. Taxing more and more never seems to solve anything. It simply does not work to have a $7 trillion budget and $5 trillion revenue stream. Where are you going to find the extra two trillion to balance the budget? Can you tax enough rich people?

My wife and I have benefited from the tax cuts that were enacted and made law in the BBB. There is ample data to show their positive impact on the economy. What we know generally about consumer spending is if you give people a dollar for free they will spend two. I don't hear people complaining about now being able to keep more of their income which they are doing under the BBB.

Here is a search as to presidents and budgets. Each president is going to blame the ones before them and some of it is true just due to natural cause and affect consequences of borrowing huge amounts of money over time.

"The U.S. national debt has generally risen under most modern presidents, with notable increases during the terms of Barack Obama, Donald Trump, and Joe Biden, while rare periods of reduction occurred under Andrew Jackson, Warren G. Harding, Calvin Coolidge, and Bill Clinton. Sources vary on exact amounts, but recent completed presidencies show Obama with the largest nominal increase, followed by Biden and Trump's first term."
 
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Huskers12345

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Once the deficit starts and interest starts to compound, it will be become more and more difficult to solve. Its just like a high interest credit card that paying the minimum never works well on. The first place to start would be a balanced budget which would be a huge battle in congress. I suspect you would even have a difficult time achieving that the current "tax the rich" banter. Taxing more and more never seems to solve anything. It simply does not work to have a $7 trillion budget and $5 trillion revenue stream. Where are you going to find the extra two trillion to balance the budget? Can you tax enough rich people?

My wife and I have benefited from the tax cuts that were enacted and made law in the BBB. There is ample data to show their positive impact on the economy. What we know generally about consumer spending is if you give people a dollar for free they will spend two. I don't hear people complaining about now being able to keep more of their income which they are doing under the BBB.

Here is a search as to presidents and budgets. Each president is going to blame the ones before them and some of it is true just due to natural cause and affect consequences of borrowing huge amounts of money over time.

"The U.S. national debt has generally risen under most modern presidents, with notable increases during the terms of Barack Obama, Donald Trump, and Joe Biden, while rare periods of reduction occurred under Andrew Jackson, Warren G. Harding, Calvin Coolidge, and Bill Clinton. Sources vary on exact amounts, but recent completed presidencies show Obama with the largest nominal increase, followed by Biden and Trump's first term."
We're screwed. Like I said before, Rand Paul says 6% spending reduction every year for 5 years..... gets us a balanced budget at the end. I will be shocked if we have even a 1% reduction in FY27 spending. Already started off with a continuing resolution until mid-december. NO ONE cares, even if they claim to care. Republicans fake outrage at spending and democrats don't even pretend.
 

HuskerO58

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We're screwed. Like I said before, Rand Paul says 6% spending reduction every year for 5 years..... gets us a balanced budget at the end. I will be shocked if we have even a 1% reduction in FY27 spending. Already started off with a continuing resolution until mid-december. NO ONE cares, even if they claim to care. Republicans fake outrage at spending and democrats don't even pretend.
Unfortunately, the voters don't care. As soon as the voters care, the politicians will start caring.

Ron Paul & Rand Paul ran on the country going broke & needing to balance the budget / reduce spending. They got nowhere (Ron did okay) because it's a boring message and it also requires some sacrifice of the American people to accept fewer handouts they're now accustomed to.

I think Trump did try cutting back on government operations / spending with Musk, but I'm not sure how far ahead we got with that if at all?
 

TruHusker

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We're screwed. Like I said before, Rand Paul says 6% spending reduction every year for 5 years..... gets us a balanced budget at the end. I will be shocked if we have even a 1% reduction in FY27 spending. Already started off with a continuing resolution until mid-december. NO ONE cares, even if they claim to care. Republicans fake outrage at spending and democrats don't even pretend.
I agree with what is said below, the consumer/voter doesn't care. They have no concept of a trillion dollars. They don't see a causes and affect to anything and worst of all, the socialist talk of free this and free that only adds to the fire, I am in the camp that believes we have a day of reconning coming - call it what you want - devaluation of our currency or whatever, it is inevitable when you can't pay the bills.
 

Huskers12345

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Unfortunately, the voters don't care. As soon as the voters care, the politicians will start caring.

Ron Paul & Rand Paul ran on the country going broke & needing to balance the budget / reduce spending. They got nowhere (Ron did okay) because it's a boring message and it also requires some sacrifice of the American people to accept fewer handouts they're now accustomed to.

I think Trump did try cutting back on government operations / spending with Musk, but I'm not sure how far ahead we got with that if at all?
Doge was never about cutting money. It was about redirecting money to Trump priorities. I said it at the time. Spending increased. All the smoke and mirrors don't matter if you are just shifting money from one credit card to another.
 

RBigredMax1

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We're screwed. Like I said before, Rand Paul says 6% spending reduction every year for 5 years..... gets us a balanced budget at the end. I will be shocked if we have even a 1% reduction in FY27 spending. Already started off with a continuing resolution until mid-december. NO ONE cares, even if they claim to care. Republicans fake outrage at spending and democrats don't even pretend.
Problem is that there is a large portion of voters who are financially inept and run their house the same way - overspend, extend credit, etc and don’t realize we are in a crap storm.

Edit: didn’t read down far enough - sorry for the duplication.
 
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UltimateGarageHusker

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Totally agree. I feel underappreciated too. The Israeli's never send me a thank you card for the missiles we waste on them.
Your 97 cents a year probably doesn’t register on their agenda to fight off people who want to kill every American
Doge was never about cutting money. It was about redirecting money to Trump priorities. I said it at the time. Spending increased. All the smoke and mirrors don't matter if you are just shifting money from one credit card to another.
This isn’t accurate. Doge money savings were mostly rescinded by the courts.
 

regionsdoc

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Unfortunately, the voters don't care. As soon as the voters care, the politicians will start caring.

Ron Paul & Rand Paul ran on the country going broke & needing to balance the budget / reduce spending. They got nowhere (Ron did okay) because it's a boring message and it also requires some sacrifice of the American people to accept fewer handouts they're now accustomed to.

I think Trump did try cutting back on government operations / spending with Musk, but I'm not sure how far ahead we got with that if at all?
“I think Trump did try cutting back on government operations / spending with Musk, but I'm not sure how far ahead we got with that if at all?”

Unless you start seriously looking at Medicare/SS/military, there is no way to put a dent in the deficit. So no, Musk made little to no impact. It will take a combo of spending cuts and tax increases to get to a better place. Collaboration and common purpose. Meanwhile, we yell at each other over trivial things while the billionaires addict our kids to phones and AI. And they will be handed an enormous bill to pay off that is no fault of their own.
 

Huskers12345

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Your 97 cents a year probably doesn’t register on their agenda to fight off people who want to kill every American

This isn’t accurate. Doge money savings were mostly rescinded by the courts.
It's all reshuffling if you end up spending more than before. It's basic math. If Republicans took $2.8 billion from Israel and gave it to Palenstine, plus another $100 million, you would consider that saving money?
 

UltimateGarageHusker

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It's all reshuffling if you end up spending more than before. It's basic math. If Republicans took $2.8 billion from Israel and gave it to Palenstine, plus another $100 million, you would consider that saving money?
There are times in life where “how” it’s used is more important than “how much”. I could care less how much is used to prevent a nuclear bomb going off in America. Every true American feels the same way.
 

Huskers12345

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There are times in life where “how” it’s used is more important than “how much”. I could care less how much is used to prevent a nuclear bomb going off in America. Every true American feels the same way.
Spending went up in 2025. Trump had the rare opportunity to set a budget right after taking office. He went with Biden's budget plus inflation adjustment. Now spending might be $2.5 trillion over Biden’s last full year. Doge didn't save a thing, no matter how you spin it. Didn't save money last year, didn't save money this year, won't save money next year.

Maga always has an excuse for the debt. Trump was gonna spend more than Biden without Iran. Iran just rocketed him into the record books again. At least you aren't claiming to be fiscally conservative. Nothing more annoying than Maga people claiming to be fiscally conservative.
 
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Redscarlet

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Spending went up in 2025. Trump had the rare opportunity to set a budget right after taking office. He went with Biden's budget plus inflation adjustment. Now spending might be $2.5 trillion over Biden’s last full year. Doge didn't save a thing, no matter how you spin it. Didn't save money last year, didn't save money this year, won't save money next year.

Maga always has an excuse for the debt. Trump was gonna spend more than Biden without Iran. Iran just rocketed him into the record books again. At least you aren't claiming to be fiscally conservative. Nothing more annoying than Maga people claiming to be fiscally conservative.
Doge was also meant to find the waste and fraud of the previous administration.
 

red scowl

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I don't believe in property taxes for homeowners. You are not earning anything from your home besides equity. And again you are aren't earning much with the devaluation of the dollar.
 

red scowl

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Spending went up in 2025. Trump had the rare opportunity to set a budget right after taking office. He went with Biden's budget plus inflation adjustment. Now spending might be $2.5 trillion over Biden’s last full year. Doge didn't save a thing, no matter how you spin it. Didn't save money last year, didn't save money this year, won't save money next year.

Maga always has an excuse for the debt. Trump was gonna spend more than Biden without Iran. Iran just rocketed him into the record books again. At least you aren't claiming to be fiscally conservative. Nothing more annoying than Maga people claiming to be fiscally conservative.
They weren't allowed to cut much of anything because everyone's on the teat. Libs would file an injection in their liberal stronghold with an Obama judge and that's it. We couldn't build the interstate now.
 

Redscarlet

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Waste is subjective and to my knowledge they didn't find any meaningful fraud. They claimed a lot of stuff, proved extremely little, if anything.
I think they found plenty of unused full waste but not much good be done after the fact and they spent it.
 

Huskers12345

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They weren't allowed to cut much of anything because everyone's on the teat. Libs would file an injection in their liberal stronghold with an Obama judge and that's it. We couldn't build the interstate now.
There is a process for taking back appropriated money. I know it's hard for a lot on here to comprehend, but it involves following the agreed upon rules and laws.

Anyone serious about cutting spending would do that during the spending bill. Of course Trump and the Republicans not only didn't reduce spending, they actually increased it. Yet, again. They are not serious about reducing spending. Anyone saying differently is an idiot. Trump will own the 2 highest highest spending years ever, in 2 different terms. Separated by Joe Biden. Almost unbelievable.
 

madbird

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Exactly which services are you willing to sacrifice to offset reduced revenue???

Road maintenance, emergency response/reduced staffing, less Hiway Patrol officers, reduced $$$ to the University of Nebraska and public schools???
I'm interested in your solutions!
Many States have a balanced budget statute in their constitution that revenue and expenses must be equal or nearly equal. It's known as the "99%" rule.
It's clear the Radical Right has screamed for always cutting taxes without thinking more than 1 year ahead.
:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
GBR!!!
 

Anon1750875978

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I refuse to dumb down my responses going forward.

If you can't comprehend my comments, put me on ignore.

Go spend that DOGE check, the tariff check, but don't plan for that $$$ Trump promised if Republicans win the House and Senate.

We aren't letting that happen.
 

HuskerO58

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There is a process for taking back appropriated money. I know it's hard for a lot on here to comprehend, but it involves following the agreed upon rules and laws.

Anyone serious about cutting spending would do that during the spending bill. Of course Trump and the Republicans not only didn't reduce spending, they actually increased it. Yet, again. They are not serious about reducing spending. Anyone saying differently is an idiot. Trump will own the 2 highest highest spending years ever, in 2 different terms. Separated by Joe Biden. Almost unbelievable.
Do we really count the first term? I mean, anyone as POTUS during Covid would've seen record spending.
 

Redscarlet

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I refuse to dumb down my responses going forward.

If you can't comprehend my comments, put me on ignore.

Go spend that DOGE check, the tariff check, but don't plan for that $$$ Trump promised if Republicans win the House and Senate.

We aren't letting that happen.
Again you’re a nincompoop, but of course your a libtard.
Trump is playing you simpletons that have too much TDS.
 

Huskers12345

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Do we really count the first term? I mean, anyone as POTUS during Covid would've seen record spending.
If it was an anomaly I might be willing to overlook it. But it falls in line with the trend. He likes to spend and he sure loves sending out checks. The guy is literally waiting for any reason to print and send out money. Gotta keep that stock market up.
 

madbird

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I refuse to dumb down my responses going forward.

If you can't comprehend my comments, put me on ignore.

Go spend that DOGE check, the tariff check, but don't plan for that $$$ Trump promised if Republicans win the House and Senate.

We aren't letting that happen.
Y’all need a little restraint son. It’s politics and it’s all lies.
and it’s a no bueno topic here
 

HuskerO58

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If it was an anomaly I might be willing to overlook it. But it falls in line with the trend. He likes to spend and he sure loves sending out checks. The guy is literally waiting for any reason to print and send out money. Gotta keep that stock market up.
I didn't say it was an anomaly.

I said any POTUS during COVID would have had a "record spending year".

I do agree though. He doesn't care about the debt.
 

dm1330

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I don't believe in property taxes for homeowners. You are not earning anything from your home besides equity. And again you are aren't earning much with the devaluation of the dollar.
So if no property tax what then for roads, education, police and fire, administration expenses, judges, etc?
 
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