OT- How we feeling about taxes in NE?

Rcnut223 · 2026-09-16T09:00:38-0500

TruHusker said:
The problem is you are focusing on one single tax, income tax. There was a time in the history of this country when the single tax was tariffs. I have been in meetings where school leaders were trying to discover a new way to claim some revenue from citizens. Its not like the federal and state governments haven't invented new and impressive ways to depart us from our earnings. We have a $40 trillion deficit, a $7 trillion budget and $5 trillion in revenues. The single answer now seems to be just tax the rich, they can afford it, They probably can, but does that truly solve the problem or simply put a band aid on it? Anyone who believes this can continue at this rate is fooling themselves.

The answer isn't more taxes, it's less government spending .

Neb79 · 2026-09-16T09:08:08-0500

TruHusker said:
The problem is you are focusing on one single tax, income tax. There was a time in the history of this country when the single tax was tariffs. I have been in meetings where school leaders were trying to discover a new way to claim some revenue from citizens. It’s not like the federal and state governments haven't invented new and impressive ways to depart us from our earnings. We have a $40 trillion deficit, a $7 trillion budget and $5 trillion in revenues. The single answer now seems to be just tax the rich, they can afford it, They probably can, but does that truly solve the problem or simply put a band aid on it? Anyone who believes this can continue at this rate is fooling themselves.

There was a time when America got lots of free labor from slaves, too. Should we return to that? Taxing the rich works if it is enforced. No loopholes or deductions. And they are the ones who can afford it. Seems fair. If you are going to use our capitalistic system to become a billionaire, pay the price. Or try your luck in Russia or Mexico. I never understood why so many people making less than 500k cry about taxing those in higher brackets. They pay lawyers and politicians to lobby for them. They don’t need your help. And they sure as hell aren’t going to help you out. I don’t have a problem with work requirements for welfare or eliminating junk food from food stamp eligibility. But this shifting of tax burden from the ultra wealthy the the middle class in crazy, and the middle class supporting it is flat insane.

Huskers12345 · 2026-09-16T09:36:05-0500

Rcnut223 said:
The answer isn't more taxes, it's less government spending .

Gonna probably need both to get out of this mess. Rand Paul has been touting his 6 pennies on the dollar plan. Basically 6% reduction a year for 5 years. Just to balance the budget.

And zero % chance any of these fools adopt any semblance of that plan.

Anon1750875978 · 2026-09-16T09:42:58-0500

Hawkmanic23 said:
Not so sure Iowa’s Republican base will erode as much as you think/hope.

It will be a gradual process.
Likely two election cycles.

Even the numpties are seeing the damage Republican rule has caused.

Anon1750875978 · 2026-09-16T09:58:31-0500

UltimateGarageHusker said:
Don’t think for a second that Iowa is being run any better.

Oh, I know it isn't.
And what's the common denominator?

TruHusker · 2026-09-16T10:48:07-0500

Neb79 said:
There was a time when America got lots of free labor from slaves, too. Should we return to that? Taxing the rich works if it is enforced. No loopholes or deductions. And they are the ones who can afford it. Seems fair. If you are going to use our capitalistic system to become a billionaire, pay the price. Or try your luck in Russia or Mexico. I never understood why so many people making less than 500k cry about taxing those in higher brackets. They pay lawyers and politicians to lobby for them. They don’t need your help. And they sure as hell aren’t going to help you out. I don’t have a problem with work requirements for welfare or eliminating junk food from food stamp eligibility. But this shifting of tax burden from the ultra wealthy the the middle class in crazy, and the middle class supporting it is flat insane.

The slave remark was stupid. What are these "loopholes" I hear so much about? Name them? What do you want businesses to deduct and just eat? Do you want businesses to grow and thrive or just complain that we only have a few choices because government makes it hard to start a new business? I have asked people what loopholes the rich receive that I cannot access and I never get a reply. You simplify your assertion that all politicians are bought off by business. Farmers have lobbyist, does that mean they are paying off the politicians? How do you expect people to learn about complex businesses without interaction those business leaders.

What do you know about Sweden? They have tons of social programs that are will documented. They also have extremely high taxes in the 60% range with all considered. They tried socialism and it failed miserably so they went back to a capitalistic model. They also tax lower wage earners more than upper wage earners which just the opposite of the US. They reason that the upper wage earners are creating jobs and moving the economy which is necessary.

I think the "tax the rich" crowd is believing a simple slogan. The rich have it and won't miss it so that makes it OK to take it from them. I am not rich by any means nor do I envy the rich. Think about this - how did most of them get rich? Bezos borrowed $300k from his parents to start a CD/ magazine business. Sam Walton went broke trying to start his cherished five and dime stores until he finally figured it out. Windows was purchased for nearly nothing and developed into a massive corporation. Apple was a clunky computer in its early days, I used one. Musk has started and sold more companies that most will even know. Facebook was a novel idea that has taken off. So who then makes these people rich? Not the government. Its everyone who buys their products like iPhones, computers, Amazon, shop at Walmart, computer storage, netflix and the list goes on and on. People don't flinch a bit paying $200 a month for an phone and the plan. We rarely had a phone growing up but it was a different age. Finally, for math sakes, go ahead and just take $250 billion from Musk and apply it to the $7 trillion budget. It will only last a few weeks and then what about job creation and sustaining with that money?

Just my opinions.

Neb79 · 2026-09-16T11:18:36-0500

TruHusker said:
The slave remark was stupid. What are these "loopholes" I hear so much about? Name them? What do you want businesses to deduct and just eat? Do you want businesses to grow and thrive or just complain that we only have a few choices because government makes it hard to start a new business? I have asked people what loopholes the rich receive that I cannot access and I never get a reply. You simplify your assertion that all politicians are bought off by business. Farmers have lobbyist, does that mean they are paying off the politicians? How do you expect people to learn about complex businesses without interaction those business leaders.

What do you know about Sweden? They have tons of social programs that are will documented. They also have extremely high taxes in the 60% range with all considered. They tried socialism and it failed miserably so they went back to a capitalistic model. They also tax lower wage earners more than upper wage earners which just the opposite of the US. They reason that the upper wage earners are creating jobs and moving the economy which is necessary.

I think the "tax the rich" crowd is believing a simple slogan. The rich have it and won't miss it so that makes it OK to take it from them. I am not rich by any means nor do I envy the rich. Think about this - how did most of them get rich? Bezos borrowed $300k from his parents to start a CD/ magazine business. Sam Walton went broke trying to start his cherished five and dime stores until he finally figured it out. Windows was purchased for nearly nothing and developed into a massive corporation. Apple was a clunky computer in its early days, I used one. Musk has started and sold more companies that most will even know. Facebook was a novel idea that has taken off. So who then makes these people rich? Not the government. Its everyone who buys their products like iPhones, computers, Amazon, shop at Walmart, computer storage, netflix and the list goes on and on. People don't flinch a bit paying $200 a month for an phone and the plan. We rarely had a phone growing up but it was a different age. Finally, for math sakes, go ahead and just take $250 billion from Musk and apply it to the $7 trillion budget. It will only last a few weeks and then what about job creation and sustaining with that money?

Just my opinions.

Keep defending the billionaires. They have suffered so horribly. We should all share the burden so they can recover.

king_kong__ · 2026-09-16T12:01:28-0500

rich people pay for literally everything in this country

anyone who thinks their measly pittance makes a difference is clueless

IMO nobody making under $50k/year should pay any income taxes (they also shouldn't be able to vote)

HuskerO58 · 2026-09-16T12:26:28-0500

Neb79 said:
And none of these billionaires are paying the 30-40% they are complaining about now. I tell you one thing. People from that era actually feared the IRS because they didn’t have politicians telling you that the IRS was your enemy. I remember every year my grandpa always made sure to file his taxes on time and correctly. I asked him why he made such a big deal out of it. He said “That’s how they got Al Capone”. After all the stuff Capone got away with, it was the IRS that got him. That was in a lot of people’s minds in the 50’s. So I’m sure a lot of ultra rich didn’t pay the full 91%. But in general, income taxes on the wealthy were much higher and they actually paid more. So instead of arguing about the semantics of exactly 91%, can we agree that the rate paid in the 50’s was likely much higher than what is paid now, or do you just want to argue so you don’t have to acknowledge that?

If you want us to acknowledge it, then provide the specifics.

What did they actually pay in the 1950s?
What are they actually paying today?

Then we can come to an agreement on whether it was "much higher" or not.

huskerfan1414 · 2026-09-16T12:44:14-0500

Neb79 said:
There was a time when America got lots of free labor from slaves, too. Should we return to that? Taxing the rich works if it is enforced. No loopholes or deductions. And they are the ones who can afford it. Seems fair. If you are going to use our capitalistic system to become a billionaire, pay the price. Or try your luck in Russia or Mexico. I never understood why so many people making less than 500k cry about taxing those in higher brackets. They pay lawyers and politicians to lobby for them. They don’t need your help. And they sure as hell aren’t going to help you out. I don’t have a problem with work requirements for welfare or eliminating junk food from food stamp eligibility. But this shifting of tax burden from the ultra wealthy the the middle class in crazy, and the middle class supporting it is flat insane.

ffs dude.

huskerfan1414 · 2026-09-16T12:49:23-0500

Huskers12345 said:
Haha communities with a high % of old people would just have ghetto roads, schools, and stuff like fire services.

Nope.

huskerfan1414 · 2026-09-16T12:50:33-0500

Anon1750875978 said:
Exactly which services are you willing to sacrifice to offset reduced revenue???

Road maintenance, emergency response/reduced staffing, less Hiway Patrol officers, reduced $$$ to the University of Nebraska and public schools???
I'm interested in your solutions!
Many States have a balanced budget statute in their constitution that revenue and expenses must be equal or nearly equal. It's known as the "99%" rule.
It's clear the Radical Right has screamed for always cutting taxes without thinking more than 1 year ahead.

University and public schools ABSOLUTELY decrease spending. Easy.

Thanks!

huskerfan1414 · 2026-09-16T12:51:51-0500

HUSKERFAN66 said:
Over the last 30 yrs or so when it comes to property taxes especially when talking schools, they always get manipulated to favor lincoln and omaha area schools because they fail to keep their valuations up to date and within the range mandated by law.

Unicameral is outdated because it doesn't represent nebraska anymore. No check and balance. It only represents lincoln omaha and cities along the platte river and I80

YEP!

HuskerO58 · 2026-09-16T12:53:09-0500

Neb79 said:
There was a time when America got lots of free labor from slaves, too. Should we return to that?

LOL!!!

TruHusker: "One time in our history our gov't got it's revenue mostly from tariffs"
Neb79: "Oh so you want to go back to slavery?!?!!?"

So comical!

Anon1750875978 · 2026-09-16T12:53:14-0500

huskerfan1414 said:
University and public schools ABSOLUTELY decrease spending. Easy.

Thanks!

Great idea.
Heaven forbid we educate kids.
They could eventually vote Blue!

No wonder Trump loves the poorly educated.

HuskerO58 · 2026-09-16T12:55:56-0500

Neb79 said:
Taxing the rich works if it is enforced. No loopholes or deductions. And they are the ones who can afford it. Seems fair.

Wait... Weren't you claiming that the tax code back in the 1950s worked? There were loopholes & deductions back then.

But that was when you thought the ultra-rich were actually paying 90% though, wasn't it. So your, "let's go back to the 1950s" comment is null & void, right?

steinek11 · 2026-09-16T13:01:03-0500

Neb79 said:
Keep defending the billionaires. They have suffered so horribly. We should all share the burden so they can recover.

We need to tax the poor. Those freeloaders are just a net drain on society. Sucking up benefits, but contributing very little. They need a little bit of incentive to get off the couch.

UltimateGarageHusker · 2026-09-16T13:04:28-0500

Anon1750875978 said:
Oh, I know it isn't.
And what's the common denominator?

Politicians that get “voted” in. They are all trying to but their votes with promises. Our system can only survive by going to an appointed system via lottery. You get rewarded with a federal pension only if you ended your term with a balanced budget and zero deficit

UltimateGarageHusker · 2026-09-16T13:14:51-0500

TruHusker said:
The slave remark was stupid. What are these "loopholes" I hear so much about? Name them? What do you want businesses to deduct and just eat? Do you want businesses to grow and thrive or just complain that we only have a few choices because government makes it hard to start a new business? I have asked people what loopholes the rich receive that I cannot access and I never get a reply. You simplify your assertion that all politicians are bought off by business. Farmers have lobbyist, does that mean they are paying off the politicians? How do you expect people to learn about complex businesses without interaction those business leaders.

What do you know about Sweden? They have tons of social programs that are will documented. They also have extremely high taxes in the 60% range with all considered. They tried socialism and it failed miserably so they went back to a capitalistic model. They also tax lower wage earners more than upper wage earners which just the opposite of the US. They reason that the upper wage earners are creating jobs and moving the economy which is necessary.

I think the "tax the rich" crowd is believing a simple slogan. The rich have it and won't miss it so that makes it OK to take it from them. I am not rich by any means nor do I envy the rich. Think about this - how did most of them get rich? Bezos borrowed $300k from his parents to start a CD/ magazine business. Sam Walton went broke trying to start his cherished five and dime stores until he finally figured it out. Windows was purchased for nearly nothing and developed into a massive corporation. Apple was a clunky computer in its early days, I used one. Musk has started and sold more companies that most will even know. Facebook was a novel idea that has taken off. So who then makes these people rich? Not the government. Its everyone who buys their products like iPhones, computers, Amazon, shop at Walmart, computer storage, netflix and the list goes on and on. People don't flinch a bit paying $200 a month for an phone and the plan. We rarely had a phone growing up but it was a different age. Finally, for math sakes, go ahead and just take $250 billion from Musk and apply it to the $7 trillion budget. It will only last a few weeks and then what about job creation and sustaining with that money?

Just my opinions.

Wow. Powerful response. One that all should read.

Neb79 said:
Keep defending the billionaires. They have suffered so horribly. We should all share the burden so they can recover.

huskerfan1414 said:
University and public schools ABSOLUTELY decrease spending. Easy.

Thanks!

If it was up to me I’d close everything within the university system EXCEPT the athletic department. Our university system is a waste. we get nothing for the 3.5 billion we spend. Most of the graduates coming out of there are liberal retards. And we fund that 3.5 billion?

Huskers12345 · 2026-09-16T13:25:56-0500

UltimateGarageHusker said:
Wow. Powerful response. One that all should read.

If it was up to me I’d close everything within the university system EXCEPT the athletic department. Our university system is a waste. we get nothing for the 3.5 billion we spend. Most of the graduates coming out of there are liberal retards. And we fund that 3.5 billion?

Always easy to tell who has never spent much time on campus. Calling UNL liberal is beyond hilarious.

HuskerO58 · 2026-09-16T13:26:57-0500

Neb79 said:
Taxing the rich works if it is enforced. No loopholes or deductions. And they are the ones who can afford it. Seems fair. If you are going to use our capitalistic system to become a billionaire, pay the price.

The government could always justify what is "fair".

For example: Even if you're earning $80k per year. The gov't can say, "Well you make way more than those earning $30k per year so you can afford a 50% tax rate. You'd still be taking home 33% more than those who are only earning $30k per year."

Pay what price? They took the risk, they should be rewarded for what they accomplished. As long we they didn't cheat, steal, threaten or kill to gain that success, why do you want them to punished or to "pay the price"?

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