Political mumble jumble or real. Thoughts.
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OT: Mississippi moving up the education ladder
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it's the only thing tater tot has done that i approve of. and it's super simple, we went back to phonics years ago and nobody else did. good job tater, you did one good thing in your two terms.
I think there’s a good argument that if Mississippi is holding kids back a year & getting good results maybe a lot of other kids in other states need to be held back.
the real reason is them scrapping the DOE guidelines around 2014ish....this has been talked about ad nauseum over the years on Supertalk....only happened when all the elected offices went super majority....
Her dad is a great Bulldog.Kayleigh.
Sorry, what was the question?
They didn’t scrap the DOE guidelines (Common Core). They literally changed the title from Common Core to Mississippi College and Career Readiness Standards. They are virtually identical minus the title.
But the age that is improving are not ole enough to take the ACT yet.
Yeah, our high schoolers can’t read yet.
Example:
Common Core Standard 3.OA.1 (That’s Operations and Algebraic Thinking grade 3)
Interpret products of whole numbers, e.g., interpret 5×7 as the total number of objects in 5 groups of 7 objects each. For example, describe a context in which a total number of objects can be expressed as 5 × 7.
Mississippi College and Career Readiness Standards 3.OA.1 (I’ll let you guess what OA Stands for in MCCRS)
Interpret products of whole numbers, e.g., interpret 5 × 7 as the total number of objects
in 5 groups of 7 objects each. For example, describe a context in which a total number
of objects can be expressed as 5 × 7.
Well, we can if you’d like. The standards are the still the same as the “communistic, Obama-approved Common Core.”
phone-ics, because everybody texts and drives in MS
Not disagreeing with you. I also agree with your point in this post, common core would’ve been accepted more in the south had it not come during Obama’s administration.
Back to the other point, did they not change anything related to how reading is taught? What has caused the drastic turnaround in reading scores? I’m not arguing, I know nothing.
They did. They adopted Common Core and started testing what they taught. Why it’s so much better than the rest of the country, I’m not really sure. I can guess that it was because we actually started teaching standards essentially for the first time.
ETA And we aren’t as stupid as most of the country thinks we are. So when we had a standard to achieve, taught it, and tested it, we all of a sudden look much better.
OK, so we essentially just didn’t use common core until the past 6-8 years? Isn’t common core about 16-18 years old? These questions are just my curiosity. I know zero about elementary education in MS.
We always have. The current “hold them back” model is only in third grade, and only for reading. And the retest is shorter and somewhat simpler than the original. That’s why roughly 95% aren’t held back. Not to mention that we always held kids back when they failed. That hasn’t changed.
And third grade hold backs is where we're getting big gains. It's not about failures, it's about a reading test now. We aren't seeing the same gains in things outside of reading.
I’m honestly not sure how old Common Core is. I can say for sure, Mississippi adopted it roughly 2013, and people lost their **** because Obama promoted it. Then the state “gave in” and adopted their own standards which were virtually identical word for word to common core a year or so later. The current MCCRS are labeled 2025, but there is little to no change year to year.
The4th grade is where the kids catch up after being held back. Those kids were dragging down the scores in 4th grade and holding them back for an extra year improved the 4th grade scores, as it should. It's crazy those kids were being passed anyway
But we really aren’t holding hardly anyone back. Most kids who fail the reading gate pass it on the 2nd or 3rd take which are arguably easier than the original.
Here’s another factor. Incentive. Schools get points for proficiency, growth of all students, and growth of the low quartile of students. Since 3rd grade is the first year of testing that counts big, there is no growth to measure. Therefore, you put your best teachers in 4th grade to maximize growth.
She mentioned that her dad played for state avs said go dawgs or something like that at the end of the interview.Kayleigh.
Sorry, what was the question?
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