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Laparkafan said:
OF money must be drying up first the Elayna girl and now this

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So many of them make the mistake of being the equivalent of a wrestling spot monkey - they show off everything they want to show off way too soon so then to keep the money up they have to resort to doing things they don't want to do do - like going 100% nude, suggestive hardcore porn, solo porn, and hardcore porn. Unless someone is the elite of the elite, only so long one can get away with nothing but T&A and suggestive nudity.

I mean like Sydney Sweeney is much better looking and and she'll just put out the same type of content Mandy Rose does for an ad or a movie or a tv show 🤷‍♂️
 
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Im The Village Idiot said:
Kenny is right. Ospreay is the man. Perfect passing of the torch.
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They’ve been preparing for a post-Elite era for quite a while now. Though I think they’ve timeline for the Bucks winding down has been extended due to the recent additions to the tag division.

Kenny is likely done as a main eventer other than his retirement match. He can’t be a full-timer anymore. He missed dates as champ because of stomach issues associated with diverticulitis. Even on his best days he’s far from being 100%. That All In main event is probably the last time we’ll see Kenny in a PPV main event other than his retirement match.

Young Bucks are likely going into putting over the future of the tag division once the current stories with this now loaded tag division is over. They get to have dream matches they’ve long wanted now, it’s basically going to be “what else more can we even accomplish” territory. They even contemplated retirement before they signed their current contracts.

I wouldn’t be surprised if all three of them retire at the end of their current contracts, or at most transition into part timers/special attractions.

Hangman will obviously still be around for a while though.
 
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American Dragon said:
They’ve been preparing for a post-Elite era for quite a while now. Though I think they’ve timeline for the Bucks winding down has been extended due to the recent additions to the tag division.

Kenny is likely done as a main eventer other than his retirement match. He can’t be a full-timer anymore. He missed dates as champ because of stomach issues associated with diverticulitis. Even on his best days he’s far from being 100%. That All In main event is probably the last time we’ll see Kenny in a PPV main event other than his retirement match.

Young Bucks are likely going into putting over the future of the tag division once the current stories with this now loaded tag division is over. They get to have dream matches they’ve long wanted now, it’s basically going to be “what else more can we even accomplish” territory. They even contemplated retirement before they signed their current contracts.

I wouldn’t be surprised if all three of them retire at the end of their current contracts, or at most transition into part timers/special attractions.

Hangman will obviously still be around for a while though.
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I agree. And I’m hopeful that, after their careers are over, people will go back and rewatch some of the great matches the Bucks had, such as their ladder match versus the Hardys in ROH, some of their matches with the Briscoes in ROH, their match with Omega/Hangman at Revolution ‘20, their steel cage match vs Lucha Bros at All Out ‘21, etc and realize just how good they were at their best. They definitely deserve their flowers at some point down the road.
 
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American Dragon said:
They’ve been preparing for a post-Elite era for quite a while now. Though I think they’ve timeline for the Bucks winding down has been extended due to the recent additions to the tag division.

Kenny is likely done as a main eventer other than his retirement match. He can’t be a full-timer anymore. He missed dates as champ because of stomach issues associated with diverticulitis. Even on his best days he’s far from being 100%. That All In main event is probably the last time we’ll see Kenny in a PPV main event other than his retirement match.

Young Bucks are likely going into putting over the future of the tag division once the current stories with this now loaded tag division is over. They get to have dream matches they’ve long wanted now, it’s basically going to be “what else more can we even accomplish” territory. They even contemplated retirement before they signed their current contracts.

I wouldn’t be surprised if all three of them retire at the end of their current contracts, or at most transition into part timers/special attractions.

Hangman will obviously still be around for a while though.
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Hangman sucks tho - he’s only there bc he’s friends with them
 
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I’ll be honest, I’m still not 100% sure I’ll continue to watch wrestling when Kenny and the Bucks retire. They are who got me back into it after 15 years of not watching. A couple years ago I would have said I’m for sure done when they retire but I’m much more open to staying now.

On the wwe side, that’s some decision putting your title on Sami on 9/11 of all days. I noticed there were no sponsors on the ring mat. I only see WWE stuff on twitter but is that the first time the ring mat hasn’t had sponsors on it in quite awhile? Maybe I’m looking into that too much but I can’t help but wonder if WWE pulled the ads off just in case the sponsors didn’t want the potential backlash or if the sponsors themselves didn’t want their ads on there for that event.
 
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Omega_X said:
I’ll be honest, I’m still not 100% sure I’ll continue to watch wrestling when Kenny and the Bucks retire. They are who got me back into it after 15 years of not watching. A couple years ago I would have said I’m for sure done when they retire but I’m much more open to staying now.

On the wwe side, that’s some decision putting your title on Sami on 9/11 of all days. I noticed there were no sponsors on the ring mat. I only see WWE stuff on twitter but is that the first time the ring mat hasn’t had sponsors on it in quite awhile? Maybe I’m looking into that too much but I can’t help but wonder if WWE pulled the ads off just in case the sponsors didn’t want the potential backlash or if the sponsors themselves didn’t want their ads on there for that event.
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Maybe it was b/c they were in Mexico - was it the same place they did triplemania?
they don’t do ads on aaa
 
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The main event for Collision was a Butcher Battle Royal with the winner getting $100K to donate to a charity in Andy Williams’ name. Fellow Buffalo native Daniel Garcia, who was mentored by the Butcher ever since he was a child, won the match and donated it to MusiCares, which is a charity that was important to Butcher.
 
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