QB Battle: Jeremy Hecklinski appears to have passed Hank Brown on the Depth Chart. QB was NOT a Transfer Portal Priority per KF on Dec 18
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We'll know much more after this week on the QBs. Charged up environment, playing a better team, etc....NIU was so damn bad, it's hard to tell anything.
Yes I'm aware, simple mistake. Any thoughts on the rest of the post?
That wasn't a 50/50 ball. While he was under pressure, the ball needed to be thrown where only our guy can catch it or it falls incomplete. It's a TD for us, or they take over deep in their own end. That's likely a part of being inexperienced, but those are the decisions that winning teams make.
It wasn't a good pass, and he missed Diaz for a wide open TD on the drive before. With that said, the Oline needs to be able to punch in a run from 2 yards out with a 1st down. The read option looked great with Heck at QB, and it would be great to explore that more. Maybe Brown wouldn't have taken the INT, but it would have likely been a sack near the 15, so it's basically a wash.
Yes agree, ball definitely could have been better. I was only arguing that I'd much rather see the ball thrown there vs taking the sack, and I think most coaches (and mathematicians) would agree. He didn't get a good loft on the throw though
The Hawks just need to keep growing momentum for the upcoming big 3 game stretch (Michigan, Ohio State, Washington).
And whoever does not win the job has to remember; all it takes is one snap & an injury to QB1 and then your team needs you.
Having 2 good, competent QBs who can run Lester's offense is not a bad thing.
Full text of the tweet;
Both Iowa quarterbacks said they don't know the plan this weekend vs. Iowa State. Haven't been told.
Hank Brown: “I don't. My plan is one day at a time, and be where my feet are, and just continue to execute and practice and prepare for what's to come this weekend.”
Jeremy Hecklinski: “I don't know what they're going to do. They haven't said anything to us. I am hopeful that I get an opportunity and I’ll be ready for it.”
Would they like to know?
Hecklinski said this: “If it were up to me, I don't know if I would want to know. I think I would just rather prepare like I'm the starter, and then they pick whoever they pick.”
Both Iowa quarterbacks said they don't know the plan this weekend vs. Iowa State. Haven't been told.
Hank Brown: “I don't. My plan is one day at a time, and be where my feet are, and just continue to execute and practice and prepare for what's to come this weekend.”
Jeremy Hecklinski: “I don't know what they're going to do. They haven't said anything to us. I am hopeful that I get an opportunity and I’ll be ready for it.”
Would they like to know?
Hecklinski said this: “If it were up to me, I don't know if I would want to know. I think I would just rather prepare like I'm the starter, and then they pick whoever they pick.”
You'd chance a pick 6, or a larger chuck of yardage considering how close the throw was to the line of scrimmage?
Plus there is a geater chance for a safety at the 2 and getting the ball back.
You are bad at math and guessing.
Throwing the ball away is always better. Throwing it away stops the play with no risk and results in a turnover on downs at the original line of scrimmage. Throwing an interception gives the defense the ball and allows them to run it out or potentially score.
Why Throwing the Ball Away is Better
- Field Position: The other team gets the ball right where you started the play.
- No Return Risk: A bad pass thrown out of bounds cannot be caught by the other team.
- Safety: It prevents a turnover touchdown or a long return by the defense.
What Happens with an Interception
- Touchback Risk: If caught in the end zone and downed, the defense gets the ball at their own 20-yard line.
- Return Danger: If the defender runs the interception out of the end zone, they can advance the ball or score.
- Wasted Down: You still lose possession either way on 4th down.
Lol did you really just copy/paste some AI bs for your response?
Lol at worrying about a pick 6 there. You sound like you would make a very scared football coach.
Fine I guess I'll respond to your AI slop. Obviously throwing it away is better when the two options are an interception and an incomplete pass. You are completely excluding the possibility of a touchdown, however. Maybe go back to your AI search engine and try again.
full text of tweet:
Reece Vander Zee on Iowa's offense:
"I think we played well, but there's a lot to improve on. I think we missed on a bunch of shots that we could've completed and came down with, me included. So I think just continuing to rep those, continuing to rep those plays down by the goal line. It's a hard thing to execute when you're in the red zone, so we've got to know that. I think there's a lot of room for improvement."
Reece Vander Zee on Iowa's offense:
"I think we played well, but there's a lot to improve on. I think we missed on a bunch of shots that we could've completed and came down with, me included. So I think just continuing to rep those, continuing to rep those plays down by the goal line. It's a hard thing to execute when you're in the red zone, so we've got to know that. I think there's a lot of room for improvement."
You don't need to reply, your posts are slop that i won't read anymore.
Heck was rushed around the end and a missed block by the RB put him in a panic. He back peddled 10 yards before throwing the ball into a defenders hands.
Iowa had an outstanding chance to get a safety and get the ball back with the ball on the 2. JFC you need half a brain to help you think.
The only thing dumber than the play he made are your takes on football. Let me guess you coached elementary school football from the bleachers and you were city champ and coach of the year in your mind.
You make me
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You don't need to reply, your posts are slop that i won't read anymore.
Heck was rushed around the end and a missed block by the RB put him in a panic. He back peddled 10 yards before throwing the ball into a defenders hands.
The only thing dumber than the play he made are your takes on football. Let me guess you coached elementary school football from the bleachers and you were city champ and coach of the year in your mind.
You make me
Why try for a touchdown when you can play for a chance at a safety?! Genius! Why ever throw a pass again? There's always a chance it could be a pick 6!You don't need to reply, your posts are slop that i won't read anymore.
Heck was rushed around the end and a missed block by the RB put him in a panic. He back peddled 10 yards before throwing the ball into a defenders hands.
Iowa had an outstanding chance to get a safety and get the ball back with the ball on the 2. JFC you need half a brain to help you think.
The only thing dumber than the play he made are your takes on football. Let me guess you coached elementary school football from the bleachers and you were city champ and coach of the year in your mind.
You make me
Your takes have given me a good laugh, and so I thank you. I must move on now. Try not to be scared of your shadow if you decide to venture outside today.
Man this video gives some great views, just a run over of the first half.
Brown:
6:15, rvz open on the deep shot, the check-down worked
7:11 really need to hit Howard on that shot.
7:57 great pass, great route, James was open as well
18:14 great pass, happy he didn't target the check down in Ostrenga
18:34 can't fault the pass, but wow was Buie open in the under route
20:27 Good lord you need to hit James on that route, 1 on 1 with the safety pulled to the other side of the field
20:44 another 1 on 1 with James, hit the deep shot
23:30 great pass
25:04 that sun was vicious, needs to put just a little more touch on this throw
25:35 hit the check down, should have been a pick (maybe not enough time, took a shot)
Heck has accuracy issues, but his reads look decent
9:13 stepped up in the pocket, if he hits that pass it goes for 20
10:35 probably the best pass of the day, took a hit and delivered to the only open route
12:45 Diaz pass, should have been delivered a bit better, sun in Diaz's eyes, but that's 6 (Brown probably hits RVZ and wow was he open as well)
14:23 DJ needs to pull that down
15:37 the correct throw in a 1 on 1 with Diaz
17:09 TD either direction, great play call with all of the focus on Diaz
30:43 Honestly, this is the difference between these two, Heck let the play develop and took the chunk play over the drop off to Howard.
Brown:
6:15, rvz open on the deep shot, the check-down worked
7:11 really need to hit Howard on that shot.
7:57 great pass, great route, James was open as well
18:14 great pass, happy he didn't target the check down in Ostrenga
18:34 can't fault the pass, but wow was Buie open in the under route
20:27 Good lord you need to hit James on that route, 1 on 1 with the safety pulled to the other side of the field
20:44 another 1 on 1 with James, hit the deep shot
23:30 great pass
25:04 that sun was vicious, needs to put just a little more touch on this throw
25:35 hit the check down, should have been a pick (maybe not enough time, took a shot)
Heck has accuracy issues, but his reads look decent
9:13 stepped up in the pocket, if he hits that pass it goes for 20
10:35 probably the best pass of the day, took a hit and delivered to the only open route
12:45 Diaz pass, should have been delivered a bit better, sun in Diaz's eyes, but that's 6 (Brown probably hits RVZ and wow was he open as well)
14:23 DJ needs to pull that down
15:37 the correct throw in a 1 on 1 with Diaz
17:09 TD either direction, great play call with all of the focus on Diaz
30:43 Honestly, this is the difference between these two, Heck let the play develop and took the chunk play over the drop off to Howard.
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I have to admit, the more that I watch the film, the more impressed I am with Hecklinski. His shortfall is accuracy, but that may or may not be a rhythm issue.
From last night's Hawk Talk with Gary Dolphin:
KF maintains that the QB battle between Hank and Heck has been really healthy
Says that the QB room, including Jimmy Sullivan, Tradon Bessinger and Ryan Fitzgerald, as a whole, has done a great job.
Said that he thought both Brown and Hecklinski both did some good things against NIU. Thought that operationally things went well despite the change from Brown to Hecklinski.
Other than one cadence issue that resulted in a false start, Ferentz is happy with how it went in its totality.
"Credit to both of them, they both prepared well for the game."
KF maintains that the QB battle between Hank and Heck has been really healthy
Says that the QB room, including Jimmy Sullivan, Tradon Bessinger and Ryan Fitzgerald, as a whole, has done a great job.
Said that he thought both Brown and Hecklinski both did some good things against NIU. Thought that operationally things went well despite the change from Brown to Hecklinski.
Other than one cadence issue that resulted in a false start, Ferentz is happy with how it went in its totality.
"Credit to both of them, they both prepared well for the game."
Hearing Hank is taking the majority of 1st team snaps now
Hecklinski will end up being the better option against ISU’s aggressive defense.
Quick decisions and quick release wins the day.
Quick decisions and quick release wins the day.
I kinda wish they'd do the opposite of last week; so this time, start Jeremy. See how he does. And then evaluate both QBs from both weeks, where each got a start.
Not sure I agree with the "If you have 2 QBs it means you don't have 1" credo. As someone else mentioned above, we will probably need both at some point this season. I just don't see anything wrong with utilizing both if/when necessary.
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At least your post wasn't slanted in favor of either (I'll let you guess which one)
I don't see the axiom "If you have 2 QB's it means you don't have 1 as being a negative if both QB's are #1 QB caliber and I think that's what we have here. In a way, I'd rather have this scenario than have only 1 starter and then a group of bench warmer caliber back ups.
I heard it from someone else I trust. But I do think there will still be a rotation. Hank is ahead right now.
I think its pretty clear that there are a number of people. both posters and media who want Heck, almost no matter what happens, which I don't really get. Sure, gunslinger, kinda reminds some people of Tate, whatever.
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