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Hawkfan_08* said:
I was joking with everyone else about how weak it was the cheer squads and band were pulled. Until I heard this...

A buddy who is on an emergency crew out of town said he heard a band member died today. Heat played a major factor but wasn't sure if there was other underlying causes.
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Why were you joking how about weak it was?
 
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MeetTheFerentzes said:
Why were you joking how about weak it was?
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Because I feel we are getting softer as a society. We let the guys playing on the turf that's radiating heat, in full pads, in a game tying to beat the heck out of one another without any modifications.

Turns out I was wrong and feel bad for the kid.
 
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HAZEL GREEN HAWK

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A lady in the seat directly in front of me today was half passed out with heat related issues and also threw up. The guy she was with asked for someone to get some help.

Someone went down to the sidelines to notify the deputy sherrif at field level. The deputy came up into the stands and asked a few questions to determine the seriousness of the situation. He told the guy and gal that if she was able to walk to the concourse with the deputy and her boyfriends help that would be best. He said that EMTs were so busy with serious heat related issues that they wouldn't be able to come over to assist unless it was a serious medical situation.

They ended up getting her up the stairs and into the concourse area.
 
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HAZEL GREEN HAWK said:
A lady in the seat directly in front of me today was half passed out with heat related issues and also threw up. The guy she was with asked for someone to get some help.

Someone went down to the sidelines to notify the deputy sherrif at field level. The deputy came up into the stands and asked a few questions to determine the seriousness of the situation. He told the guy and gal that if she was able to walk to the concourse with the deputy and her boyfriends help that would be best. He said that EMTs were so busy with serious heat related issues that they wouldn't be able to come over to assist unless it was a serious medical situation.

They ended up getting her up the stairs and into the concourse area.
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Watching kirk's post-game interview on the field, he looks like he was feeling the heat too. I imagine everybody was.
 
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TweeterHawk said:
There were a lot of fans who clearly weren’t dressed or ready for that sun and intense heat and probably should have stayed home or left before half time. Drinking alcohol only made it worse.
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I’m surprised they were allowed in undressed. That’s going to be a bad sunburn.
 
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Heat is no joke. A number of years ago I was in a sporting event in July, got heatstroke, and was in a coma. The doctors said it was miracle I survived and I was in my early twenties. Please never think heat is something you should be able to “tough out”
 
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Hawkfan_08* said:
Because I feel we are getting softer as a society. We let the guys playing on the turf that's radiating heat, in full pads, in a game tying to beat the heck out of one another without any modifications.

Turns out I was wrong and feel bad for the kid.
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Big difference. The football players get an endless supply of water and gatorade, plus they have the cool mist fans on the sideline.


When I was in the marching band 20-something years ago we got a styrofoam cup of water per half and an apple after halftime. We also marched in our full wool uniforms no matter what. They did let us take our coats and the marching hats(shakos) off in the stands at least, but had to put everything back on for halftime and for the post-game. Also understand, the band doesn’t start at the beginning of the game. They usually start three to four hours before the game with a warm up practice, then over to do a full show for an audience at the Recreation Center, then parade march through the parking lot into the stadium. A full game is usually something like a 7 or 8 hour day for them. And they aren’t scholarship athletes that get the full support of the athletic department behind them feeding and hydrating them with whatever they need.

I marched at the 2000 Eddie Robinson Kickoff Classic against Kansas State at Arrowhead Stadium, which was(and maybe still is) the earliest game in August that Iowa had ever played. That was the hottest I’ve ever been in my life, and I’ve gone backpacking in the New Mexico desert. They had us get off the busses in the parking lot, get changed into uniforms, then parade march around the tailgating lots to stop and play for one or two special groups out there before going into the stadium. It felt like we high-step marched for close to a mile by the time we got to the stadium. At that point we’d been going for 45-60 minutes straight with no break or water and they had us go straight into the pre-game show on the field. We had several students in the band keel over and pass out on the field during that show. When we came off the field during pregame the on field thermometer said something like 110. And there was no wind down at field level. Then they put us in the stands right behind the uprights of one end zone where there was absolutely no shade, so we just baked. Thankfully after a quarter smarter people realized they needed to let us get up into the concourse for shade if needed and also needed to get us a lot more water. Pretty much none of us had money on us, so we couldn’t go and buy drinks when we wanted, plus we were poor college students that couldn’t afford a bunch of stadium priced drinks just to stay hydrated.


The other thing that I left out, there were a lot of beer drinkers in the band back then, probably still are too. And with a home game yesterday they likely were doing beer band downtown the night before. I’m sure that didn’t help at all. I remember smelling some of the band members sweating the beer out in the stands on Saturday mornings my freshman year being a new experience for me.
 
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We saw a LOT of people who were taken out by medics and did not look good. Including two who were very obviously in serious distress on medic carts.

The first responders were clearly overwhelmed, and I don’t blame them, that was a bad recipe. Really should delay kickoff in these early games until after dark anymore.

We didn’t even make it to our seats….saw them hauling two people out from our section and many others who looked awful coming into the concourse. Watched the first quarter from the concourse and hit the road.
 
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I lived in Florida from December 1985 until last weekend, when wife and I moved to Raleigh to be near grandkids. Raleigh has been as hot as Florida during parts of this summer.

Heat is not a joke. But people become so used to it, they practically ignore the newscasts giving out all the info on safety during the hottest months. Ironically, it's when a cold snap comes--overnight lows in the 30s or colder--that the news folks go nuts with all kinds of warnings about dressing in layers, turning off portable heaters before going to sleep, not running an oven with the door open overnight, and of course, not using alcohol to get/stay warm.
 
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QChawks said:
The sucky part is the wind changed direction and by 6pm we had nice dry air. These early games should always be at night IMHO to avoid this.
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Frankly even if some have to be un-televised like the old days.

Just like they do in the desert, with the way the weather is anymore, anywhere south of Minnesota/Wisconsin shouldn’t play day games until October.
 
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NoPuntsNoPeace said:
We saw a LOT of people who were taken out by medics and did not look good. Including two who were very obviously in serious distress on medic carts.

The first responders were clearly overwhelmed, and I don’t blame them, that was a bad recipe. Really should delay kickoff in these early games until after dark anymore.

We didn’t even make it to our seats….saw them hauling two people out from our section and many others who looked awful coming into the concourse. Watched the first quarter from the concourse and hit the road.
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Yep. Had a lady about 4 rows behind us pass out due to the heat. It took quite awhile before the medics arrived and hauled her out on a stretcher.
 
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On a related note I read recently that the NCAA has proposed moving up the start of the football season to late August. This seems concerning to me precisely because of the heat issue. The NCAA seems hellbent on expanding the football playoffs which creates this scheduling issue. We have too much money invested in the players and this whole system to create unnecessary medical issues due to early season heat.
 
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Herky T Hawk said:
Big difference. The football players get an endless supply of water and gatorade, plus they have the cool mist fans on the sideline.


When I was in the marching band 20-something years ago we got a styrofoam cup of water per half and an apple after halftime. We also marched in our full wool uniforms no matter what. They did let us take our coats and the marching hats(shakos) off in the stands at least, but had to put everything back on for halftime and for the post-game. Also understand, the band doesn’t start at the beginning of the game. They usually start three to four hours before the game with a warm up practice, then over to do a full show for an audience at the Recreation Center, then parade march through the parking lot into the stadium. A full game is usually something like a 7 or 8 hour day for them. And they aren’t scholarship athletes that get the full support of the athletic department behind them feeding and hydrating them with whatever they need.

I marched at the 2000 Eddie Robinson Kickoff Classic against Kansas State at Arrowhead Stadium, which was(and maybe still is) the earliest game in August that Iowa had ever played. That was the hottest I’ve ever been in my life, and I’ve gone backpacking in the New Mexico desert. They had us get off the busses in the parking lot, get changed into uniforms, then parade march around the tailgating lots to stop and play for one or two special groups out there before going into the stadium. It felt like we high-step marched for close to a mile by the time we got to the stadium. At that point we’d been going for 45-60 minutes straight with no break or water and they had us go straight into the pre-game show on the field. We had several students in the band keel over and pass out on the field during that show. When we came off the field during pregame the on field thermometer said something like 110. And there was no wind down at field level. Then they put us in the stands right behind the uprights of one end zone where there was absolutely no shade, so we just baked. Thankfully after a quarter smarter people realized they needed to let us get up into the concourse for shade if needed and also needed to get us a lot more water. Pretty much none of us had money on us, so we couldn’t go and buy drinks when we wanted, plus we were poor college students that couldn’t afford a bunch of stadium priced drinks just to stay hydrated.


The other thing that I left out, there were a lot of beer drinkers in the band back then, probably still are too. And with a home game yesterday they likely were doing beer band downtown the night before. I’m sure that didn’t help at all. I remember smelling some of the band members sweating the beer out in the stands on Saturday mornings my freshman year being a new experience for me.
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I totally see your point and thought of the old band members who had to do that. Thats why I thought they could have kept playing in the moment. I also understand the culture around drinking the night before/morning but they need to be educated on why that is so dangerous to do that with the heat.

While I understand the differences between the band treatment and player treatment, we may disagree on who may be in more peril.
 
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NoPuntsNoPeace said:
We saw a LOT of people who were taken out by medics and did not look good. Including two who were very obviously in serious distress on medic carts.

The first responders were clearly overwhelmed, and I don’t blame them, that was a bad recipe. Really should delay kickoff in these early games until after dark anymore.

We didn’t even make it to our seats….saw them hauling two people out from our section and many others who looked awful coming into the concourse. Watched the first quarter from the concourse and hit the road.
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There was a police officer who came to get a guy who passed out right behind my wife. Officer said that was #33 for the game. That was the 1st quarter.
 
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Since 2013 (as far back as I could find NWS daily weather records):
First game dates ranged from Aug 30-Sep 5
Hottest high temp in CR (no data for IC) 92 in 2023
Lowest high temp 70 in 2019
Avg high temp 81.4
High yesterday was 91
 
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People on average are less tolerant of high temperatures than we used to be, myself included. We didn't have AC at home or at school when I was young. I got it in both places at around 12 years old. I worked outside for 20 years. In the past ten years, I have spent less and less time outside. I worked in the yard for a short time each night this past week. It was brutal.
 
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anyone questioning the decision to pull the cheerleaders and band is an idiot…… obviously it sounds like first responders were overwhelmed…… why put more people at risk unnecessarily when your ability to respond is already stretched too thin
 
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KuwaitHawk said:
A previous UNI game (the 2 FG block game) was very hot. My daughter and I sat in the front row on the field in the south end zone. It was brutal.
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I was at that game. Didn't feel too bothered by the heat that day, but the opener against Northern Illinois in 2013 was by far the hottest game I've ever been to. Temperatures in the mid 90s and on field was close to 120 degrees (reportedly).
 
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I’ve been a paramedic for over 35 years. Last UI game I worked was around 92 or so. They are just a beast when it’s hot. I assume they had the cooling tent set up, it was for the Bananas games. You’re stuck as a paramedic with the number of patients. You really can’t take all of them to the hospital, simply because you don’t have enough boxes to move the people. On site cooling with IV fluids work best.
 
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NoPuntsNoPeace said:
We saw a LOT of people who were taken out by medics and did not look good. Including two who were very obviously in serious distress on medic carts.

The first responders were clearly overwhelmed, and I don’t blame them, that was a bad recipe. Really should delay kickoff in these early games until after dark anymore.

We didn’t even make it to our seats….saw them hauling two people out from our section and many others who looked awful coming into the concourse. Watched the first quarter from the concourse and hit the road.
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You know why they won't do that. TV, and $$
 
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QChawks said:
The sucky part is the wind changed direction and by 6pm we had nice dry air. These early games should always be at night IMHO to avoid this.
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Like I said TV makes that impossible unless they're going to play every day of the week, or start the season later, and that's not happening either.
 
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EvilMonkeyInTheCloset said:
I was at that game. Didn't feel too bothered by the heat that day, but the opener against Northern Illinois in 2013 was by far the hottest game I've ever been to. Temperatures in the mid 90s and on field was close to 120 degrees (reportedly).
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Was also at that game and don’t remember it being significantly hot. That being said, I was in my mid 20s and still very tolerant of most things in life.
 
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UIAlumFireFighter said:
Was also at that game and don’t remember it being significantly hot. That being said, I was in my mid 20s and still very tolerant of most things in life.
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It didn't get as hot that day as it was supposed to. They had been talking middle 90s mid week. Actually upper 80s. Still hot
 
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Kceasthawk@77 said:
Like I said TV makes that impossible unless they're going to play every day of the week, or start the season later, and that's not happening either.
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Absolutely they won't start the season later and want to start it earlier as Indicated in my previous post. TV rules the roost and we're at crunch time when it comes to college football scheduling.

It just seems infeasible to me to play college football games in late August with it so hot in many parts of the country. Expansion of the playoffs has ramifications I don't think they have fully taken into account yet. That gets off topic but ties into playing early season football in intense heat.
 
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Relative was at the game, east stands.
I asked her if she was still in the stadium middle of 3rd qtr.
Said she wussed out with 9 min in 2nd qtr. To hot.
Said it was a lot cooler at their tailgate watching the game on someone's tv.
 
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