Bad losses are a part of sports. We need to CHOP now and beat BC!!!

F.AM.I.L.Y

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First post on new boards. Last night stunk. But that's sports.
Greg will be here next week against BC as he should. Let's see how team responds.
I still think we can beat BC and get this season back on track. How the players respond will be telling.

Lot of negativity around the program right now. Coaches and players need to shut that out and just CHOP.

Winners face adversity, shut out the noise, focus and give it their all.

Losers like @RU Cheese hide behind keyboards and quit 5 minutes into the season and start polls to fire the coach.
F.A.M.I.L.Y!!!!! You got that right! Keep choppin' and this team will win the game! They will try the hardest and keep it in the F.A.M.I.L.Y!!!! No need for negativity! We got this!
 

noble106

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The problem is Schiano is getting worse each year since he returned, not better
That's not entirely true. He did improve the team from 2020-2023, but after NIL fully took over in 2024 he has been on a downward slope.

No doubt, it seems the game has gone by him at his age and there probably won't be any improvement in the future with him as HC.
 

Jerseylegends

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Although I feel it's time for a change and that schiano is not a good head coach. I can't help but feeling like this can be used as a catalyst. Hopefully guys are pissed in that locker room and see how they're the butt of all jokes currently. Maybe the coaches needed to see these new additions in live game action to determine who really should be on the field. So I'm with Al's alternate account on that as far as the teams mentality should be. One thing I think they should do is move mikey munn to free safety and get no. 20 out of there or if munn can't tackle let's see Tariq hayer. Start aj surace because lonergan looked scared after UMass scored their first td and we saw they aren't last years UMass. The play calling didn't help but still. Maybe let's see that oline depth we heard about and play a different right tackle. And start kamar Archie, dj mcclary at linebacker. I haven't seen any of the players that haven't played yet but from what I saw from the starters, you might as well play the young talent and really try to win with athleticism and VIOLENCE.
 
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RU201592

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This isn’t a bad loss. This is a catastrophic program gut wrenching loss. Losing to PSU last year was a bad loss. Giving up 70+ points to a Michigan team is a bad loss.

UMass was arguably one of the worst CFB programs in history last year and they came into Piscataway on an opening night and completely embarrassed us. They outmatched us on both sides of the LOS, had 10x more intensity, and just bullied us on every play.
 

yesrutgers01

Heisman
Nov 9, 2008
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Chopping is the dumbest sports mantra ever. It assumes you are always in a bad spot and need to work out of it. Appropriate for Schiano though.
keep chopping is fine "in game" - just says- never give up. But, if you are talking about post game or about the damn season after a loss like this- you are right, just dumb
 

yesrutgers01

Heisman
Nov 9, 2008
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A very good question indeed. T

hose two who are brothers on the DL, the secondary and OL guys looked better phsyically at least for one game than we did.

Did the Cignetti outlier phenomenon-that if you did it at a lower level you can do it at any level-(TKR podcast repeated this often)--infect RU and caused them to focus on lower level success stories, but who may not have the physical talents to play in the B10?

The LB Allison looked small--Jones looked slight-Munn looked waifish---there are more that can be identified.

But yes every time I heard a play was being made by an Indiana transfer or a Va Tech transfer etc I was like wtf we have Drake etc
On top of that- as much as everyone likes to say how underfunded we are and less NIL than the rest of our conference - we spent at least 10x on players this year than UMass did.
 
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dicemen99

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Nov 15, 2005
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This loss is a program destruction, reputation destroying, loss.
You must be a youngin. I arrived on the banks in 1987. If there is one thing consistent with RU football it’s the mind-blowing, laughingstock of the NCAA losses that are a regular occurrence. Not sure what reputation could be possibly destroyed with just another one.

Embrace it. RU sports aren’t good at much, but football is really good at being bad. I’m sure the delusion of being relevant in the B1G will pass for you long before you reach my age. Not happening ever. Hope for a couple lucky high points before a quick crash. That’s the best they have to offer you.
 

LotusAggressor_rivals

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Oct 11, 2003
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We all hope it was a bad game and those do happen.

Yes Harisymiak had the team prepped and knew a lot of what would happen (for all the KC love doesn't everyone know most plays that are coming which JH seemed to) The changing of the D with 15 seconds on the play clock when the communication cuts off so Lonergan was on his own (why has KC always programmed them to wait till end of clock when D can time it) was great coaching by JH.

BUT it didn't appear to be just that. It appeared Umass had better more physical players, which wouldn't make it what we hope-a bad game.

This occurred not only in the pickoff play but where were our athletes on kick and punt block--we always had some that seemed athletic enough to get to the ball. Last night, it didn't appear there were any who could be a playmaker.

The hope is it was shellshock, overthinking and being put in the wrong place-as opposed to not B10 level talent. This week will tell a lot about the talent level, in addition to coaching.
Harysmiak's changing the defense at the end of the play clock and leaving Lonergan on his own exposed the weakness of KCs QB coaching. There is a difference between teaching the QB how to run plays and actually teaching the position. Out of all the RU OCs in the last decade plus, only Friedgen understood this.
 

bigmatt718

Heisman
Mar 11, 2013
16,636
23,768
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Chopping is the dumbest sports mantra ever. It assumes you are always in a bad spot and need to work out of it. Appropriate for Schiano though.
Chopping to me always sounded like Caveman/Meathead football. Schiano is the CFB equivalent of the Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer on SNL.
 

Ru-baby

All-Conference
Aug 11, 2001
6,842
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Harysmiak's changing the defense at the end of the play clock and leaving Lonergan on his own exposed the weakness of KCs QB coaching. There is a difference between teaching the QB how to run plays and actually teaching the position. Out of all the RU OCs in the last decade plus, only Friedgen understood this.

I've been in the minority here, but I think KC has been way predictable and also agree with the above.

Lets not forget what having Monagai, Raymond, Strong Duff and Athan has meant. Many times I think that talent outstripped the play calling. A lot of oc's could have been successful. KC did some good things but the praise has only been so great because the D was putrid.

And I think it was criminal how underused Sheffiled was-not ONE end around, when he crushed that at his previous stop. He was nearly always open and we just threw outs that provided very little YAC opportunity.

I think GS will mandate ground and pound this weekend to try to get the OL untracked and limt turnovers and not sure that's not exactly the plan needed considering the state of things.
 
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eddynyse

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I'm now completely in favor of moving on from Schiano, but my main hesitation comes down to resources and our current lack of financial support. RU simply doesn't have the cash to eat a $25 million buyout and then drop another $20+ million on a new coaching staff, especially with no guarantee of success. I think the smart play is to wait it out until the buyout drops to a more manageable number. In the meantime, we can keep building up our NIL funds so the next regime actually has the tools to compete. The AD should develop a 12-15 year plan that could take 3 coaches.
 

RUTGERS95

Heisman
Sep 28, 2005
37,187
54,602
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I'm now completely in favor of moving on from Schiano, but my main hesitation comes down to resources and our current lack of financial support. RU simply doesn't have the cash to eat a $25 million buyout and then drop another $20+ million on a new coaching staff, especially with no guarantee of success. I think the smart play is to wait it out until the buyout drops to a more manageable number. In the meantime, we can keep building up our NIL funds so the next regime actually has the tools to compete. The AD should develop a 12-15 year plan that could take 3 coaches.
we don't have 12-15 yrs
we need major results in 3
 
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Caliknight

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Although I feel it's time for a change and that schiano is not a good head coach. I can't help but feeling like this can be used as a catalyst. Hopefully guys are pissed in that locker room and see how they're the butt of all jokes currently. Maybe the coaches needed to see these new additions in live game action to determine who really should be on the field. So I'm with Al's alternate account on that as far as the teams mentality should be. One thing I think they should do is move mikey munn to free safety and get no. 20 out of there or if munn can't tackle let's see Tariq hayer. Start aj surace because lonergan looked scared after UMass scored their first td and we saw they aren't last years UMass. The play calling didn't help but still. Maybe let's see that oline depth we heard about and play a different right tackle. And start kamar Archie, dj mcclary at linebacker. I haven't seen any of the players that haven't played yet but from what I saw from the starters, you might as well play the young talent and really try to win with athleticism and VIOLENCE.
There was one phase of the game that winless program didn’t best us in. Especially on the lines. There are things that can fixed and things that can’t. The entire program needs to be burned down and built back again by someone who coaches like is the new millennium. Schiano ball is dead.
 
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I'm now completely in favor of moving on from Schiano, but my main hesitation comes down to resources and our current lack of financial support. RU simply doesn't have the cash to eat a $25 million buyout and then drop another $20+ million on a new coaching staff, especially with no guarantee of success. I think the smart play is to wait it out until the buyout drops to a more manageable number. In the meantime, we can keep building up our NIL funds so the next regime actually has the tools to compete. The AD should develop a 12-15 year plan that could take 3 coaches.
Except which players come play for a dead man walking coach everyone knows is practically gone. If he only wins 5 or fewer games and is retained the program deserves to go the way of the dodo.
 
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RUTGERS95

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Except which players come play for a dead man walking coach everyone knows is practically gone. If he only wins 5 or fewer games and is retained the program deserves to go the way of the dodo.
anyone that wants Greg gone and goes to a single game deserves to keep their mouths shut. you vote with your wallet, that is something Keli will understand. You have no one showing up, it's not something you can't address
 
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anyone that wants Greg gone and goes to a single game deserves to keep their mouths shut. you vote with your wallet, that is something Keli will understand. You have no one showing up, it's not something you can't address
When Indiana and Nebraska turn Rutgers Stadium their shade or red by turning it into a home game for them, she should get it quite clearly.
 

RU Cheese

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Sep 14, 2003
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Chopping to me always sounded like Caveman/Meathead football. Schiano is the CFB equivalent of the Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer on SNL.
Strong disagree. Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer was only recently thawed out and had a successful legal practice, drove a BMW, and later got into state politics. He's been substantially more successful than Greg and that's without even considering that he's a recently unfrozen caveman.
 

Caliknight

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maybe maybe not after all, she agreed to IU for homecoming
Giving Greg all the rope he needs to hang himself. Putting him on display for all to see. Makes it all easier. If he can’t hang with conference mates in year 7, the answer is obvious. Besides, who would be better? SC? Their coach will run the score up on Greg and not think twice. Not blowing out the team who lost to UMass is now a loss for every other program we play. Expect epic breakdowns.
 

LETSGORU91

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Jan 29, 2017
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Chopping is the dumbest sports mantra ever. It assumes you are always in a bad spot and need to work out of it. Appropriate for Schiano though.
As a person who has hand split 5-6 cords of wood a year, I disagree.
 

jsol_05

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Jul 2, 2005
5,538
3,206
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First post on new boards. Last night stunk. But that's sports.
Greg will be here next week against BC as he should. Let's see how team responds.
I still think we can beat BC and get this season back on track. How the players respond will be telling.

Lot of negativity around the program right now. Coaches and players need to shut that out and just CHOP.

Winners face adversity, shut out the noise, focus and give it their all.

Losers like @RU Cheese hide behind keyboards and quit 5 minutes into the season and start polls to fire the coach.
So after BC where do you stand and by the way SC is coming. You call another poster a loser but questioning a coach with a losing record ability to ciach. Everyone in an organization must be heldd accountable. Wanting to get rid of of a losing coach, doesn't make you a loser, it means you are trying to be a winner. I will agree with one thing GS said after the BC game. He said you make decision based off of the information you have at the time, she'll Ms. Zinn with the information that you have at this time what is your decision.
 
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