Kamario quote when asked about transfer offers he got

Darryl Steight

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"In today’s time, a lot of guys take the money and run. The money is going to be there. The money is going to come. I wasn’t going to chase money. I wanted to chase a place that made me feel like I was at home and a place where I felt like I would get developed the way I have under Leb."
The whole documentary they posted last week was like this... This kid is so solid and loves our school. He and his mom and Uncle Omarr bleed maroon. After watching that, I have never wanted one individual player to be successful so badly as I do K1. He deserves it.
 

Deltaduckhunter

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So is he gone after we fire Lebby? or will he stay on when we rehire Mullen?
After Leach's death I remember thinking that we would be in the wilderness for at least 3 years because Leach had recruited players that fit his system, but were not necessarily the players you want in most modern offenses and I didn't expect our Defense to tank like it did. I think our best case scenario is that Lebby takes a step forward and we start repairing our reputation as a program. I'm afraid that if he has a season where we have to fire him, we will be in the wilderness a few more years, even if we were to find an upgrade at HC.
 

CochiseCowbell

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The whole documentary they posted last week was like this... This kid is so solid and loves our school. He and his mom and Uncle Omarr bleed maroon. After watching that, I have never wanted one individual player to be successful so badly as I do K1. He deserves it.

I have a dumb friend that didn't have time to watch that last week. He's so dumb he can't find it when he searched. I told him I'd ask you for a link.
 

85Bears

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So is he gone after we fire Lebby? or will he stay on when we rehire

After Leach's death I remember thinking that we would be in the wilderness for at least 3 years because Leach had recruited players that fit his system, but were not necessarily the players you want in most modern offenses and I didn't expect our Defense to tank like it did. I think our best case scenario is that Lebby takes a step forward and we start repairing our reputation as a program. I'm afraid that if he has a season where we have to fire him, we will be in the wilderness a few more years, even if we were to find an upgrade at HC.
Nah. It was more the boosters Arnett and Peterson fired everyone and changed the offense to the 1951 power run game, wasting a 9-4 veteran roster
 

patdog

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It's pretty interesting, the amount of people that think we can just hire and fire our way through a total rebuild of a football program.. WE ARE MISSISSIPPI STATE.
Keeping the wrong coach is far worse than firing him. That said, let's just beat the hell out of ULM and win enough games this year to make this a moot point. Why we got to talk about firing a coach 3 days before the season starts?
 

jethreauxdawg

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"In today’s time, a lot of guys take the money and run. The money is going to be there. The money is going to come. I wasn’t going to chase money. I wanted to chase a place that made me feel like I was at home and a place where I felt like I would get developed the way I have under Leb."
How much did we pay him to say it’s not about the money?
 

maygray1

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barring a complete shitshow, this isn't going to happen. I have no inside info, but reading the tea leaves my bet is Lebby has a lot of runway to rebuild
He recruited in the off season like a man that was told "you got until the 27 season unless 26 goes backwards".
 
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Deltaduckhunter

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Nah. It was more the boosters Arnett and Peterson fired everyone and changed the offense to the 1951 power run game, wasting a 9-4 veteran roster
Agree the Arnett move was a terrible idea and he made things much worse when he completely changed our offense, but the chances of someone coming in that could have kept the Leach system going was very slim.
 

85Bears

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Agree the Arnett move was a terrible idea and he made things much worse when he completely changed our offense, but the chances of someone coming in that could have kept the Leach system going was very slim.
Narrative narrative narrative. Tough to polish a turd.
 

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After Leach's death I remember thinking that we would be in the wilderness for at least 3 years because Leach had recruited players that fit his system, but were not necessarily the players you want in most modern offenses
This is fake news for a variety of reasons:

1 - It did not happen at Texas Tech or Washington State;
2 - The whole fall apart after a niche only works when you are going to run to pass, not pass to run. A passing offense can be converted to a running offense quickly. But either one is made easier by #3....
3 - The transfer portal. No longer does it take multiple years to install scheme.

Nah. It was more the boosters Arnett and Peterson fired everyone and changed the offense to the 1951 power run game, wasting a 9-4 veteran roster
Correct, and everyone knows it. And it's not the fact that he changed......like I said above with the transfer portal, you can, much easier........it's the fact that he changed THAT team, with all those upperclassmen coming back. And even worse, he had this same shltty attitude toward Leach and the Air Raid that our fans do. He thought he could do better.

And it's not just the offense, he gutted a bunch of 1st and 2nd year players, that likely would have helped in future years (like 2024) once they'd matured. And then Lebby did it again when he got here.

Agree the Arnett move was a terrible idea and he made things much worse when he completely changed our offense, but the chances of someone coming in that could have kept the Leach system going was very slim.
They were already on campus.....the entire staff minus Leach was intact. They deserved to stay, because it was the SITUATION, not Arnett's deservedness, that got him the job. He really had no right at that time to change the offense, and that should have been made clear by leadership. But we had no AD, and folks were emotional, so it didn't. We simply anointed Arnett as savior because the RuNdAbAwLeRs screamed the loudest and hated Leach.

He could have changed the offense the following year, had it fallen apart, and nobody would have blamed him. But I guarantee we're better than 5-7 had he not changed, and he would have been head coach another year.

No one is trying to polish it, I'm the one that was saying it was a turd :unsure:
But it wasn't a turd in December 2022. MSU created the turd by their series of decisions.
 
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The whole documentary they posted last week was like this... This kid is so solid and loves our school. He and his mom and Uncle Omarr bleed maroon. After watching that, I have never wanted one individual player to be successful so badly as I do K1. He deserves it.
This is why it's so imperative, in this new era, to build our program with MS players. I don't care where you get them, HS or JUCO......devote a team of m17ers to go out, find the raw guys and project them. Get them in a real weight program. And pay to retain them when needed. We can go out of state if needed, but I would be real careful with that.

As for transfers.....take the rising G6 guys. I would be very selective with the P4 benchwarmers.
 

Darryl Steight

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This is why it's so imperative, in this new era, to build our program with MS players. I don't care where you get them, HS or JUCO......devote a team of m17ers to go out, find the raw guys and project them. Get them in a real weight program. And pay to retain them when needed. We can go out of state if needed, but I would be real careful with that.

As for transfers.....take the rising G6 guys. I would be very selective with the P4 benchwarmers.
Sherrill was big on it. And isn't this what Mullen did? He and Hevesy did piss off some people in the high schools because of their abrasive personalities and because they wouldn't kiss all the right rings, but they did prioritize MS kids, "family", etc. And then you supplement with Lousiana/Alabama/Georgia/Tennessee kids. Every once in a while go get a speed burner from OK or Texas. The P4 schools in those states can't take them all.

People in the NFL have recognized the talent pool here in this state and surrounding areas. We need to take advantage of it again. Especially with olemiss going in the totally opposite direction where they don't give a shitt about MS kids. They're too big time for that. They want to recruit nationally. So we need to emphasize it and build it into our recruiting. Maybe K1 can be the impetus for that.
 
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Deltaduckhunter

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This is fake news for a variety of reasons:

1 - It did not happen at Texas Tech or Washington State;
2 - The whole fall apart after a niche only works when you are going to run to pass, not pass to run. A passing offense can be converted to a running offense quickly. But either one is made easier by #3....
3 - The transfer portal. No longer does it take multiple years to install scheme.


Correct, and everyone knows it. And it's not the fact that he changed......like I said above with the transfer portal, you can, much easier........it's the fact that he changed THAT team, with all those upperclassmen coming back. And even worse, he had this same shltty attitude toward Leach and the Air Raid that our fans do. He thought he could do better.

And it's not just the offense, he gutted a bunch of 1st and 2nd year players, that likely would have helped in future years (like 2024) once they'd matured. And then Lebby did it again when he got here.


They were already on campus.....the entire staff minus Leach was intact. They deserved to stay, because it was the SITUATION, not Arnett's deservedness, that got him the job. He really had no right at that time to change the offense, and that should have been made clear by leadership. But we had no AD, and folks were emotional, so it didn't. We simply anointed Arnett as savior because the RuNdAbAwLeRs screamed the loudest and hated Leach.

He could have changed the offense the following year, had it fallen apart, and nobody would have blamed him. But I guarantee we're better than 5-7 had he not changed, and he would have been head coach another year.


But it wasn't a turd in December 2022. MSU created the turd by their series of decisions
So at the end of the day, we both agree Arnett was a bad choice and made bad decisions, but you think we could have rebounded immediately after Leach's death and I 100% do not. Some people, I'm guessing you included, also think our best scenario is a terrible season and a new coach next year. I personally think the best scenario is 6 - 7 wins and some momentum for 2027 versus a new regime starting all over again. Three losing seasons in a row have just about made us irrelevant. I would hate to see what 4 - 5 would do.
 

Barkman Turner Overdrive

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So at the end of the day, we both agree Arnett was a bad choice and made bad decisions, but you think we could have rebounded immediately after Leach's death and I 100% do not. Some people, I'm guessing you included, also think our best scenario is a terrible season and a new coach next year. I personally think the best scenario is 6 - 7 wins and some momentum for 2027 versus a new regime starting all over again. Three losing seasons in a row have just about made us irrelevant. I would hate to see what 4 - 5 would do.
Who's to say Lebby is going to figure it out? If he matches last year's 5 win season this year, we are we a looking at the distinct possibility of five losing season in a row in 2027. Do we keep letting him post Ls and make bonehead in-game decisions like its 1990 and we are playing Tecmo Bowl?
 

Deltaduckhunter

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Who's to say Lebby is going to figure it out? If he matches last year's 5 win season this year, we are we a looking at the distinct possibility of five losing season in a row in 2027. Do we keep letting him post Ls and make bonehead in-game decisions like its 1990 and we are playing Tecmo Bowl?
Yeah, I didn't say he was going to figure it out. I said it is our best case scenario for him to figure it out. Obviously if we are 5 wins or less this year, we have to go a different direction.
 
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Sherrill was big on it. And isn't this what Mullen did? He and Hevesy did piss off some people in the high schools because of their abrasive personalities and because they wouldn't kiss all the right rings, but they did prioritize MS kids, "family", etc. And then you supplement with Lousiana/Alabama/Georgia/Tennessee kids. Every once in a while go get a speed burner from OK or Texas. The P4 schools in those states can't take them all.

People in the NFL have recognized the talent pool here in this state and surrounding areas. We need to take advantage of it again. Especially with olemiss going in the totally opposite direction where they don't give a shitt about MS kids. They're too big time for that. They want to recruit nationally. So we need to emphasize it and build it into our recruiting. Maybe K1 can be the impetus for that.
Both did, yes. And of course, at the time, it made sense to use JUCOs consistently and go find those out-of-staters that Bama/LSU couldn't take. Mullen used AL and LA, and Jackie took a lot of GA kids. Of course, that's tougher to do in the NIL/portal era. So replace these with transfers.
 
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So at the end of the day, we both agree Arnett was a bad choice and made bad decisions, but you think we could have rebounded immediately after Leach's death and I 100% do not.
I do think we could have probably went 7-5 or so that year, then Arnett could have built the team the way he wanted. And I do want to see us use a defensive minded head coach at some point.

Some people, I'm guessing you included, also think our best scenario is a terrible season and a new coach next year. I personally think the best scenario is 6 - 7 wins and some momentum for 2027 versus a new regime starting all over again. Three losing seasons in a row have just about made us irrelevant. I would hate to see what 4 - 5 would do.
Eh, I used to, until 5 for 5 came along. I figured we'd win a little this year, as we have a lot of Leach/Arnett's last class still here, then drop off next year. But we could get a lot of them back. So now I do kinda wish we'd hit that 7-5 mark, assuming our OL is good and Taylor/Lebby mesh well.

I'm very skeptical of the latter half of my last sentence.
 

Perd Hapley

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How much did we pay him to say it’s not about the money?
My thoughts exactly.

No disrespect or shade towards KT at all….he’s certainly saying all the right things and carrying himself the right way.

But, he’s also getting probably $3 million or so, just for this season. It’s laughable to actually convince yourself otherwise, or legitimately think he’s not “chasing money” to a certain extent. We all would.
 

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But, he’s also getting probably $3 million or so, just for this season. It’s laughable to actually convince yourself otherwise, or legitimately think he’s not “chasing money” to a certain extent. We all would.
Another example of you exaggerating NIL. Taylor is getting a significant amount but it's not 3M. People who know, know. And if your exaggeration percentages are consistent, well, you're wildly wrong.
 
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"In today’s time, a lot of guys take the money and run. The money is going to be there. The money is going to come. I wasn’t going to chase money. I wanted to chase a place that made me feel like I was at home and a place where I felt like I would get developed the way I have under Leb."
How could he have possibly gotten offers if he was never in the portal. Isn't that against the tampering rules?****************************
 
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Mulllin was taking shots at State yesterday saying Memphis had better facilities, I doubt he’s coming back. Twitter was making a big deal out of it.
 

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Mulllin was taking shots at State yesterday saying Memphis had better facilities, I doubt he’s coming back. Twitter was making a big deal out of it.
He didn’t say anything about state dumbass. He just said they had facilities that were better than some in P4. When he was at FL they had shite for facilities. Memphis plays in the Liberty bowl not on campus and in a bad part of Memphis.
 
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He didn’t say anything about state dumbass. He just said they had facilities that were better than some in P4. When he was at FL they had shite for facilities. Memphis plays in the Liberty bowl not on campus and in a bad part of Memphis.
Yea he did he said Memphis had better facilities than a sec Job he worked at and he wasn’t talking about Florida. Lmao. It was a thinly veiled shot at the poor facilities at State . There’s about a hundred thread on twitter about it.
 

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It wasn't the other day. It was a few years ago when he covered a Memphis game on espn as part of the broadcast crew.

He just said better facilities than some sec teams he coached. You can make your own assumptions. But Memphis does have comparable practice facilities to us plus they have a full length IPF. We don't. Florida didn't have a IPF at all. So.....

Memphis practice facilities are on their south campus at the corner of getwell and park ave.
 
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