This is all on UK President Eli Capaluto

mhs1964

Senior
Feb 8, 2018
533
629
88
Eli’s vote would have made no difference. There wasn’t another school in the conference that wanted UK to add Mitchell. I like this better than to another conference and play for Kansas or Louisville for example.
 
Aug 23, 2024
3,089
6,631
113
The transfer rule has been around for a few years now. Mitchell relied upon a TRO based upon the Kentucky Consumer Protection Act.
What do you mean exactly about the transfer rule that has been around for a few years now? I don't mean to give you a hard time but did we not take Aberdeen and Dioubate from SEC schools last year? There seems to be no issue with Dioubate now going to LSU or Garrison to Alabama as far I have heard. Isn't this all about the fifth year issue that just recently came up and insisting they had to have entered the portal in April when there was no reason for them to have known that at the time?
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: NineIsOnTheWay

Beatle Bum

Heisman
Sep 1, 2002
43,529
66,176
113
What do you mean exactly about the transfer rule that has been around for a few years now? I don't mean to give you a hard time but did we not take Aberdeen and Dioubate from SEC schools last year? There seems to be no issue with Dioubate now going to LSU or Garrison to Alabama as far I have heard. Isn't this all about the fifth year issue that just recently came up and insisting they had to have entered the portal in April when there was no reason for them to have known that at the time?
The league voted on the intra-conference transfer rule years ago. So, the idea that Cap or UK voted against UK is crap. The rule was focused on football and never contemplated what happened this year.
 

UKBB4Ever

All-Conference
Jul 3, 2025
2,325
4,040
113
Everything about UK basketball is 100% on Pope.

Good or bad.

The guy is in so far over his head he needs a snorkel to breathe. And there’s no way out. He doesn’t have the coaching ability to claw his way up. He does not develop players so they could lift him up. He doesn’t demand fitness so they will be too tired to lift him. He doesn’t demand effort so they will just quit when it gets hard.

UK basketball will begin to heal as soon as Pope is no longer the coach.
 
Aug 23, 2024
3,089
6,631
113
The league voted on the intra-conference transfer rule years ago. So, the idea that Cap or UK voted against UK is crap. The rule was focused on football and never contemplated what happened this year.
You did not clarify this at all. I will repeat this one more time. Did we not take Aberdeen and Dioubate from SEC schools last year? There seems to be no issue with Dioubate now going to LSU or Garrison to Alabama as far I have heard. There are other SEC schools that have recently and are taking intra conference transfers this year as well. If they voted to ban intra-conference transfers years ago and it is still in place how could this be the case?
 
Last edited:
Aug 23, 2024
3,089
6,631
113
Everything about UK basketball is 100% on Pope.

Good or bad.

The guy is in so far over his head he needs a snorkel to breathe. And there’s no way out. He doesn’t have the coaching ability to claw his way up. He does not develop players so they could lift him up. He doesn’t demand fitness so they will be too tired to lift him. He doesn’t demand effort so they will just quit when it gets hard.

UK basketball will begin to heal as soon as Pope is no longer the coach.
You are just a broken record of braindead hyperbolic negative takes.
 
Last edited:

Beatle Bum

Heisman
Sep 1, 2002
43,529
66,176
113
You did not clarify this at all. I will repeat this one more time. Did we not take Aberdeen and Dioubate from SEC schools last year? There seems to be no issue with Dioubate now going to LSU or Garrison to Alabama as far I have heard. There are other SEC schools that have recently and are taking intra conference transfers this year as well. If they voted to ban intra-conference transfers years ago and it is still in place how could this be the case?
They did not ban intra -conference transfers. They put a deadline for such transfers. All the people you mentioned transferred before the deadline.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Agent Redbone
Aug 23, 2024
3,089
6,631
113
They did not ban intra -conference transfers. They put a deadline for such transfers. All the people you mentioned transferred before the deadline.
I at least kind of see your angle now. To say he had to have transferred by a deadline when he had no college eligibility remaining before that deadline is ridiculous and unfair. There is nothing rational or reasonable about blocking his transfer given the situation and making an exception in this case was the only proper thing to do and should have been a given imo.
 
Last edited:

Beatle Bum

Heisman
Sep 1, 2002
43,529
66,176
113
I at least kind of see your angle now. To say he had to have transferred by a deadline when he had no college eligibility remaining before that deadline is ridiculous and unfair. There is nothing rational or reasonable about blocking his transfer given the situation and making an exception in this case was the only proper thing to do and should have been a given imo.
The rule existed long before Mitchell ever thought about a 5th year. An organization enforcing its rules is rational. If the rule is applied in all circumstances, it is fairly applied. Nothing arbitrary about consistently enforcing rules. Most players seeking a variance think fairness requires the variance.

All of that said, my point was that Capiluto/UK did not vote on this rule while Mitchell was seeking a 5th year. The rule was a football inspired rule to keep players from moving from one SEC school to another after spring practice.

I was also pointing out that Mitchell’s eligibility, should it last, was not premised upon an anti-trust violation as Jones seemed to suggest but upon a violation of the Kentucky Consumer Protection Act. These two mistakes make me think the OP linked to a fake MJ account.
 
Aug 23, 2024
3,089
6,631
113
The rule existed long before Mitchell ever thought about a 5th year. An organization enforcing its rules is rational. If the rule is applied in all circumstances, it is fairly applied. Nothing arbitrary about consistently enforcing rules. Most players seeking a variance think fairness requires the variance.

All of that said, my point was that Capiluto/UK did not vote on this rule while Mitchell was seeking a 5th year. The rule was a football inspired rule to keep players from moving from one SEC school to another after spring practice.

I was also pointing out that Mitchell’s eligibility, should it last, was not premised upon an anti-trust violation as Jones seemed to suggest but upon a violation of the Kentucky Consumer Protection Act. These two mistakes make me think the OP linked to a fake MJ account.
The deadline passed before Mitchell ever had the opportunity to consider a fifth year.

It seems your main motivation is defending Eli. I was never attacking Eli and I place all of my displeasure with Sankey and the NCAA. There is nothing fair or reasonable about saying he needed to enter the portal at a point in time that he had no eligibility and no reasonable expectation or avenue to gaining eligibility. The NCAA's timing in all of this is the main issue and allowances should have been made accordingly imo as I have stated. The NCAA should have voted on the 5 in 5 (which I was not in favor of anyway) either much earlier or much later and are responsible for this mess.
 

Beatle Bum

Heisman
Sep 1, 2002
43,529
66,176
113
The deadline passed before Mitchell ever had the opportunity to consider a fifth year.
It passed before he was assured a fifth year. Everyone was considering the 5 for 5 at that point, so he probably had every opportunity to consider it

It seems your main motivation is defending Eli.
I just stated facts. The OP conflated the professional player vote with the SEC transfer rule. If I have posted ANYTHING here that is factually incorrect, then correct me

I was never attacking Eli and I place all of my displeasure with Sankey and the NCAA. There is nothing fair or reasonable about saying he needed to enter the portal at a point in time that he had no eligibility and no reasonable expectation or avenue to gaining eligibility.
The concept of fair is subjective. It is fair to enforce rules consistently. Again, the complaint the led to the TRO talked about the COVID decision to give players more eligibility. The SEC knows that exceptions will lead to such arguments. The Court evidently refused to enforce its TRO upon the SEC. Mitchell under the order can play at Missouri and any other school not in the SEC. It’s fair to him while remaining fair to every other athlete who must abide by the rule.

Capiluto had nothing to do with that. So, I am not defending him. I could agree with you and he would still have nothing to do with it.

I wanted Mitchell at UK. I understand, however, why the SEC took its firm stance on the rule.

The NCAA's timing in all of this is the main issue and allowances should have been made accordingly imo as I have stated. The NCAA should have voted on the 5 in 5 (which I was not in favor of anyway) either much earlier or much later and are responsible for this mess.
If the NCAA had taken the position that seniors out of eligibility got another year, I would have been fine with that. It did not. Its prerogative.
 
KSR

Latest

  1. 01 KSR Podcasts 11 Personnel: Kentucky Swing Game at South Carolina
  2. 02 KSR Football Why Will Stein tries to keep his emotions in check on Saturdays
  3. 03 KSR Basketball Florida's Denzel Aberdeen is eligible to play a fifth season of college basketball
  4. 04 KSR Basketball 'Maybe sometimes too fearless': Mason Williams is doing whatever it takes to compete
  5. 05 KSR Football Will Stein and Shane Beamer's Relationship Comes Full Circle on Saturday