-29.5 spread...We should still cover

rosenst2

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Nov 6, 2021
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Umass lost to a division 2 team last year. This really should like a Howard/Norfolk State type of game. Rutgers doesn't cover only if Greg decides not to run it up against his friend.
 
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PSAL_Hoops

Heisman
Feb 18, 2008
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Our defense hasn't made any decent moves afaik. We might even have a D coordinator worse than Robb Smith.

Also, our offense will probably regress this year. Not getting my hopes up for the upteenth million time with zero evidence of improvement
Even if all of that actually turned out to be true - the 2019 team (last Ash team) dropped 48 points on UMass and only gave up 21. That UMass team actually won a game - beating Akron. This UMass team is expected to get shut out again. They suck.
 
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Colbert17!

Heisman
Aug 30, 2014
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We might even have a D coordinator worse than Robb Smith.

Evidence, sarcasm or just trolling??? This is a perfect example of addition by subtraction.
Soupy Sales would have been a better DC than Smith.
 

PSAL_Hoops

Heisman
Feb 18, 2008
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Closer than most people think. RU 38 UMass 17

The QB they picked up from VTech is a big “get” for them by UMass standards, but he was still just Drones back up. Not a star player. They only scored 3 times twice in games last year and once wasn’t even an FBS team. It seems unlikely they do it against us even if we play our back ups the second half.
 

Shelby65

All-Conference
Apr 1, 2008
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If this happens we may not win another game the entire season.

But no worries. It won’t happen. Anyone making such a statement, as outlandish as it is, has an agenda.
Chaminades happen to much better teams than RU. And it’s not predicting a loss, just a close final score. It’s an unlikely prediction, but not outlandish.
 
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koleszar

Heisman
Jan 1, 2010
37,896
59,879
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Our defense hasn't made any decent moves afaik. We might even have a D coordinator worse than Robb Smith.
Congratulations,
You just went against every person's view on the subject who has attended practice and put their thoughts on paper or in a video. That's quite a feat, per chance do you live under a rock or in a cave?
 
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RU#1fan

Heisman
Mar 7, 2003
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12,619
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Congratulations,
You just went against every person's view on the subject who has attended practice and put their thoughts on paper or in a video. That's quite a feat, per chance do you live under a rock or in a cave?
This.
On paper we did poor in getting talent on Defense vs. what we lost on D in the Portal. However simple changes in schematics with the Defensive Staff will make a huge difference on the field.
 

Kbe4

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This.
On paper we did poor in getting talent on Defense vs. what we lost on D in the Portal. However simple changes in schematics with the Defensive Staff will make a huge difference on the field.
I don't get that. We lost both edge guys from a defense that had virtually no pass rush. Both starting DTs are returning this season.
Both starting LBs are returning although they may be passed over for starting positions by two transfers. We have to replace the corners, but at least one of the transfers (Munn) looks to be an upgrade for sure. And one starting safety is returning, but it shouldn't be that big of a problem to find a replacement for the other.
In sum, the Rutgers defense last season was as bad as I've ever seen here. It seems absurd to complain about having to replace some of the guys on that unit. RU shouldn't have much trouble improving on what I saw last Fall from that bunch.
 

Kbe4

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I don't get that. We lost both edge guys from a defense that had virtually no pass rush. Both starting DTs are returning this season.
Both starting LBs are returning although they may be passed over for starting positions by two transfers. We have to replace the corners, but at least one of the transfers (Munn) looks to be an upgrade for sure. And one starting safety is returning, but it shouldn't be that big of a problem to find a replacement for the other.
In sum, the Rutgers defense last season was as bad as I've ever seen here. It seems absurd to complain about having to replace some of the guys on that unit. RU shouldn't have much trouble improving on what I saw last Fall from that bunch.
Also, one of the returning starting DTs who is returning is being replaced as a starter. Frankly, since botn were pushed around last season like they were on roller skates I wish they were BOTH not starting.
 

Anon1751565407

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Buy the line down to -9.5 and hope for no back door “bad beat!” UMass has an overhauled roster and if Rutgers is lucky enough to be up 3 possessions (17 or more) late, Schiano gets conservative.
IMO…Very close at halftime.
31-14 Final
 

PSAL_Hoops

Heisman
Feb 18, 2008
14,189
13,525
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Buy the line down to -9.5 and hope for no back door “bad beat!” UMass has an overhauled roster and if Rutgers is lucky enough to be up 3 possessions (17 or more) late, Schiano gets conservative.
IMO…Very close at halftime.
31-14 Final

I mean - they’ll be better than what they were by virtue of having a legit back up P4 QB level guy from a middle of the road ACC team. But they will be far worse than the weak power conference teams that Greg has managed to consistently beat in 2.0.
 
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AreYouNUTS

Heisman
Aug 1, 2001
125,155
59,640
113
Buy the line down to -9.5 and hope for no back door “bad beat!” UMass has an overhauled roster and if Rutgers is lucky enough to be up 3 possessions (17 or more) late, Schiano gets conservative.
IMO…Very close at halftime.
31-14 Final
“Overhauled roster”….. yeah, Indiana better watch out!!!! 🤦🏻‍♂️
 
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Scoring 60+ needs to happen. I know many get their man-ties in a twist about running scores up but you need to have that foot to the throat mentality. RU does not have that.
 

Anon1751565407

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“Overhauled roster”….. yeah, Indiana better watch out!!!! 🤦🏻‍♂️
UMass brought in some P4 transfers at key positions. Should a transfer QB from UofAlabama with a highly regarded NFL prospect receiver and a 1,000 yard rusher RB and decent OLine be able to win this game? Sure.
 

matei

Redshirt
Feb 16, 2026
27
44
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A Chaminade-esque result implies a less than 0.5% chance (ie a 30-40 point spread). I’d say that’s the very definition of outlandish.

im actually somewhat surprised at -29.5. I would have figured closer to 35-36. It goes to show what the prevailing opinion of Rutgers football is especially given a lack of movement since the line opened.
 

PSAL_Hoops

Heisman
Feb 18, 2008
14,189
13,525
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A Chaminade-esque result implies a less than 0.5% chance (ie a 30-40 point spread). I’d say that’s the very definition of outlandish.

im actually somewhat surprised at -29.5. I would have figured closer to 35-36. It goes to show what the prevailing opinion of Rutgers football is especially given a lack of movement since the line opened.

Nah - this spread has nothing to do with the perception of Rutgers. Once the margins is over 3 scores it’s a crapshoot. UMass could keep their starters in and Greg won’t want to run up the score against his friend. As long as the game is over by halftime the final doesn’t matter. If we’re in an early dogfight like the MAC games last year that’s a big problem.
 
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Caliknight

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Sep 21, 2001
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If the SIM game is even close to correct, get ready for the pitchforks.

Schiano is the master of allowing overmatched teams to hang around. I'd be shocked if we cover that number.
 

Anon1751565407

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Wow, P4 transfers to the absolute worse team in FBS: now I'm terrified!
A Dual threat QB keeps you in games if you’re at a talent disadvantage. Their O line and D-tackles aren’t all 240 lbs or anything.🤣
Clay Thevenin might be key - catching short passes with YAC.
 

DJ Spanky

Heisman
Jul 25, 2001
50,635
62,625
113
A Dual threat QB keeps you in games if you’re at a talent disadvantage. Their O line and D-tackles aren’t all 240 lbs or anything.🤣
Clay Thevenin might be key - catching short passes with YAC.

Whatever you say. Sounds like we're gonna have a tough game against Howard too!
 

koleszar

Heisman
Jan 1, 2010
37,896
59,879
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A Chaminade-esque result implies a less than 0.5% chance (ie a 30-40 point spread). I’d say that’s the very definition of outlandish.

im actually somewhat surprised at -29.5. I would have figured closer to 35-36. It goes to show what the prevailing opinion of Rutgers football is especially given a lack of movement since the line opened.
When you had USC win by 16 and FSU win by 17 both 30 pt. spreads people tend to start betting the other way. We're the next P4 school on the betting schedule.
 
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