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PSUForever

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I have never heard a Clay Travis podcast before but just happened upon it tonight and he said something that if possible makes the NCAA look even more ridiculous and more like a bunch of ninnies than they already are.

They have suspended this 4th year linebacker at Tennessee, Arion Carter, for accepting a $400 plane ticket when he was contemplating going pro. Carter repaid the $400.

So let me get this straight...the dipsh## NCAA lets professionals go from an NFL team back to a college team without a peep from these clowns yet Carter who has been at Tennessee for 4 years is suspended for accepting a $400 plane ticket that he has since repaid.

Oh my.
 
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PSUForever said:
I have never heard a Clay Travis podcast before but just happened upon it tonight and he said something that if possible makes the NCAA look even more ridiculous and more like a bunch of ninnies than they already are.

They have suspended this 4th year linebacker at Tennessee, Arion Carter, for accepting a $400 plane ticket when he was contemplating going pro. Carter repaid the $400.

So let me get this straight...the dipsh## NCAA lets professionals go from an NFL team back to a college team without a peep from these clowns yet Carter who has been at Tennessee for 4 years is suspended for accepting a $400 plane ticket that he has since repaid.

Oh my.
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He will probably sue and win.
 
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PSUForever said:
I have never heard a Clay Travis podcast before but just happened upon it tonight and he said something that if possible makes the NCAA look even more ridiculous and more like a bunch of ninnies than they already are.

They have suspended this 4th year linebacker at Tennessee, Arion Carter, for accepting a $400 plane ticket when he was contemplating going pro. Carter repaid the $400.

So let me get this straight...the dipsh## NCAA lets professionals go from an NFL team back to a college team without a peep from these clowns yet Carter who has been at Tennessee for 4 years is suspended for accepting a $400 plane ticket that he has since repaid.

Oh my.
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W NIL why can’t he accept the money
 
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Here is an excerpt from the article (from July, I might add)....(I managed to get this before a pay wall went up).

But Carter was initially declared ineligible pending an investigation, according to the UT document, because he accepted a material benefit from a sports agent during what the NCAA calls a “test the waters” phase in preparation for the NFL draft.

In December 2025, the NCAA provided guidance in a memo to college athletes considering the NFL draft, including a clarification about accepting benefits from agents.

“You, your family or your friends are not permitted to receive any benefits from an agent,” the NCAA memo said. “Examples of material benefits include money, transportation, dinner, clothes, cell phones, jewelry, etc. Please note that benefits may also include, but are not limited to, activities such as tryout arrangements with a professional team and coordinating tryout schedules.”

Tennessee argued to NCAA that Arion Carter 'acted in good faith'​

Tennessee argued that Carter’s unique situation demanded common-sense clemency from the NCAA.

“Current legislation permits student-athletes nationwide to have professional marketing representation, and through this representation, student-athletes have received benefits not unlike the nominal benefit (Carter) received,” UT argued in the NCAA report.
 
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PSUForever said:
I have never heard a Clay Travis podcast before but just happened upon it tonight and he said something that if possible makes the NCAA look even more ridiculous and more like a bunch of ninnies than they already are.

They have suspended this 4th year linebacker at Tennessee, Arion Carter, for accepting a $400 plane ticket when he was contemplating going pro. Carter repaid the $400.

So let me get this straight...the dipsh## NCAA lets professionals go from an NFL team back to a college team without a peep from these clowns yet Carter who has been at Tennessee for 4 years is suspended for accepting a $400 plane ticket that he has since repaid.

Oh my.
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Technically they're right. He wouldn’t have repaid it if they weren't.

Also, the NCAA never allowed anyone to go from the pros (which meh) back to school. The courts did.

The NCAA is trash but you're unintentionally misrepresenting things here.
 
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If you can't beat the NCAA in court now, you just aren't trying.
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I’m not a lawyer but I imagine the issue is that you can’t place restrictions on football players that you don’t place on, say, mathematics graduate students.

When I went to grad school at Tennessee, I had to sign a honest to goodness Letter of Intent. (Basically, no poaching.)
 
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If you can't beat the NCAA in court now, you just aren't trying.
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UT's attorney:

 
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LionJim said:
I’m not a lawyer but I imagine the issue is that you can’t place restrictions on football players that you don’t place on, say, mathematics graduate students.

When I went to grad school at Tennessee, I had to sign a honest to goodness Letter of Intent. (Basically, no poaching.)
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Him paying the money back is evidence he knew he wasn't allowed to do this--going to be a tough case to win
I'm curious to see what happens to the Big Ten/SEC/Big XII claiming Kiffin and others can't bring in guys who had an NFL contract
 
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KingLando said:
Him paying the money back is evidence he knew he wasn't allowed to do this--going to be a tough case to win
I'm curious to see what happens to the Big Ten/SEC/Big XII claiming Kiffin and others can't bring in guys who had an NFL contract
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The NFL also came out and said that any players who go back to college can't play for an NFL team during that same season. Therefore, unless court action is taken, which it probably will be, this phenomonen is being ended before it really can begin.
 
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Are they going to really let Tommy Castellanos play for Texas Tech?
What about Trent Hendrick going to UCLA?
Or are we not counting mini camps?
 
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The NFL also came out and said that any players who go back to college can't play for an NFL team during that same season. Therefore, unless court action is taken, which it probably will be, this phenomonen is being ended before it really can begin.
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Oh, I'm sure there will be suits filed
But I hope the nonsense ends--this is all the NCAA's fault
 
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PSUForever said:
So let me get this straight...the dipsh## NCAA lets professionals go from an NFL team back to a college team without a peep from these clowns
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You obviously don't understand what's happening if that's your characterization of things...
 
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PSUForever said:
I have never heard a Clay Travis podcast before but just happened upon it tonight and he said something that if possible makes the NCAA look even more ridiculous and more like a bunch of ninnies than they already are.

They have suspended this 4th year linebacker at Tennessee, Arion Carter, for accepting a $400 plane ticket when he was contemplating going pro. Carter repaid the $400.

So let me get this straight...the dipsh## NCAA lets professionals go from an NFL team back to a college team without a peep from these clowns yet Carter who has been at Tennessee for 4 years is suspended for accepting a $400 plane ticket that he has since repaid.

Oh my.
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Stay away from Clay Travis.

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How Tennessee fans, politicians and influential donors changed the course of the program they all loved overnight.
www.nytimes.com www.nytimes.com
 
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KingLando said:
Are they going to really let Tommy Castellanos play for Texas Tech?
What about Trent Hendrick going to UCLA?
Or are we not counting mini camps?
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I guess that Texas Tech couldn't make a good enough trade for a qb. They fast are becoming the most unlikeable program in the country, although Kiffin may turn LSU into that.
 
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The courts are crazy - it seems no one or entity has the right to set rules for their league - just run to court. I think you will see more and more of this from other sports and leagues.
 
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Lion84 said:
The courts are crazy - it seems no one or entity has the right to set rules for their league - just run to court. I think you will see more and more of this from other sports and leagues.
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Ehhh--college is weird because it's not technically a play for pay league--once they start paying them to pay I think the courts will have less authority because there will be real, enforceable contracts
 
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psuro said:
Here is an excerpt from the article (from July, I might add)....(I managed to get this before a pay wall went up).

But Carter was initially declared ineligible pending an investigation, according to the UT document, because he accepted a material benefit from a sports agent during what the NCAA calls a “test the waters” phase in preparation for the NFL draft.

In December 2025, the NCAA provided guidance in a memo to college athletes considering the NFL draft, including a clarification about accepting benefits from agents.

“You, your family or your friends are not permitted to receive any benefits from an agent,” the NCAA memo said. “Examples of material benefits include money, transportation, dinner, clothes, cell phones, jewelry, etc. Please note that benefits may also include, but are not limited to, activities such as tryout arrangements with a professional team and coordinating tryout schedules.”

Tennessee argued to NCAA that Arion Carter 'acted in good faith'​

Tennessee argued that Carter’s unique situation demanded common-sense clemency from the NCAA.

“Current legislation permits student-athletes nationwide to have professional marketing representation, and through this representation, student-athletes have received benefits not unlike the nominal benefit (Carter) received,” UT argued in the NCAA report.
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Everything about college football today is just a freaking mess. When the Guberment and the Ambulance Chasers along with an inept NCAA get together on anything it's going to end up a Cluster F - - -. Then consider that most politicians are Ambulance Chasers. Like most people working at the CDC and the AMA came from Pharmaceutical Companies. And we wonder why things are a mess.
 
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Anon1648262989 said:
Everything about college football today is just a freaking mess. When the Guberment and the Ambulance Chasers along with an inept NCAA get together on anything it's going to end up a Cluster F - - -. Then consider that most politicians are Ambulance Chasers. Like most people working at the CDC and the AMA came from Pharmaceutical Companies. And we wonder why things are a mess.
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Tom told us no politics!

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razpsu said:
Can’t read it, pop up sign up for times. What does it say.
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It’s just a summary of the efforts of Travis to mount a social media campaign to force UT to not hire Greg Schiano (after they reached an agreement to do so) including saying Schiano was part of the scandal/coverup at Penn State. Had Tennessee politicians saying the same and eventually UT caved.
 
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If you can't beat the NCAA in court now, you just aren't trying.
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And the SEC and NCAA already lost with their attempt to ban players in the courts. It's was hysterical that they thought they could after the first court order.
 
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