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Pancreatic Cancer hope for the wealthy

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Revolution Medicines RVMD

The once-daily drug carries a list price of more than $475,000 a year, making it one of the most expensive cancer treatments in history. The company branded it Rasonque and made it available starting Wednesday

Pancreatic cancer is often diagnosed after it has spread, leaving patients with just months to live. But in trials, RevMed’s drug nearly doubled typical survival time for those with an aggressive form of the disease. In a late-stage study published in May, patients who received chemotherapy — the current standard of treatment — lived for just 6.7 months, while those given Rasonque lived for more than 13 months.
 
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Revolution Medicines RVMD

The once-daily drug carries a list price of more than $475,000 a year, making it one of the most expensive cancer treatments in history. The company branded it Rasonque and made it available starting Wednesday

Pancreatic cancer is often diagnosed after it has spread, leaving patients with just months to live. But in trials, RevMed’s drug nearly doubled typical survival time for those with an aggressive form of the disease. In a late-stage study published in May, patients who received chemotherapy — the current standard of treatment — lived for just 6.7 months, while those given Rasonque lived for more than 13 months.
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Unfortunately, without that form of pricing there would probably be no drug at all. What it means is that the very rich and the poor will get it. Hopefully, economies of scale would bring it down. My solution to this problem would be for the govt to give bounties to drug companies for the creation of new drugs and for the drug companies to agree to charge reasonable amounts for their drugs as their part of the bargain.

I ran into an analogous situation with respect to a liver cancer drug about 18 years ago. My wife died of liver cancer, and there was a month's supply of a drug costing $5,000 or $8,000 a month that I tried to give away. There are laws against these give aways that even extend in some ways to China. If I wasn't a lawyer who would have been singled out for this type of offense, I would have found a way to give away the drug. So, the drug and money were wasted.
 
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Unfortunately, without that form of pricing there would probably be no drug at all. What it means is that the very rich and the poor will get it. Hopefully, economies of scale would bring it down. My solution to this problem would be for the govt to give bounties to drug companies for the creation of new drugs and for the drug companies to agree to charge reasonable amounts for their drugs as their part of the bargain.

I ran into an analogous situation with respect to a liver cancer drug about 18 years ago. My wife died of liver cancer, and there was a month's supply of a drug costing $5,000 or $8,000 a month that I tried to give away. There are laws against these give aways that even extend in some ways to China. If I wasn't a lawyer who would have been singled out for this type of offense, I would have found a way to give away the drug. So, the drug and money were wasted.
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There’s programs (state by state) but there’s also requirements for the donations.

Prescription Drug Donation - Florida Department of Health

Florida Rx Connects was established by the Florida Legislature in 2020 to facilitate the donation of certain prescription drugs and supplies to eligible
www.floridahealth.gov www.floridahealth.gov
 
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Go to India. You can get a much cheaper version there soon.
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Also, their toilets are rivers.

 
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DailyBuck7 said:
Unfortunately, without that form of pricing there would probably be no drug at all. What it means is that the very rich and the poor will get it. Hopefully, economies of scale would bring it down. My solution to this problem would be for the govt to give bounties to drug companies for the creation of new drugs and for the drug companies to agree to charge reasonable amounts for their drugs as their part of the bargain.

I ran into an analogous situation with respect to a liver cancer drug about 18 years ago. My wife died of liver cancer, and there was a month's supply of a drug costing $5,000 or $8,000 a month that I tried to give away. There are laws against these give aways that even extend in some ways to China. If I wasn't a lawyer who would have been singled out for this type of offense, I would have found a way to give away the drug. So, the drug and money were wasted.
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It is a tough situation. My wife passed 4 years ago from a long battle with Crohn'S disease.
 
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DailyBuck7 said:
Unfortunately, without that form of pricing there would probably be no drug at all. What it means is that the very rich and the poor will get it. Hopefully, economies of scale would bring it down. My solution to this problem would be for the govt to give bounties to drug companies for the creation of new drugs and for the drug companies to agree to charge reasonable amounts for their drugs as their part of the bargain.

I ran into an analogous situation with respect to a liver cancer drug about 18 years ago. My wife died of liver cancer, and there was a month's supply of a drug costing $5,000 or $8,000 a month that I tried to give away. There are laws against these give aways that even extend in some ways to China. If I wasn't a lawyer who would have been singled out for this type of offense, I would have found a way to give away the drug. So, the drug and money were wasted.
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Damn man. Sorry you had to go through that. Cancer is awful.
 
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$475,000 for 6 more months? It's good they're making progress on this horrible disease but not worth it in my opinion.
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interesting thought...remember when Ezekiel Emanual, one of the architects of the ACA, said that once you're 75, you've lived a good life and at the point "you should just die" (my words but meaning is the same.)

And that sounded really good until you reach 74 3/4
 
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interesting thought...remember when Ezekiel Emanual, one of the architects of the ACA, said that once you're 75, you've lived a good life and at the point "you should just die" (my words but meaning is the same.)

And that sounded really good until you reach 74 3/4
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A good friend advocated doing increasingly dangerous things like sky diving and hot air balooning on a risk reward basis
 
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I've never met anybody who actually paid these wild prices for new treatments. I think they just slap a huge price tag on them and then start up their manufacturer assistance and grant programs so that they can test them on poor people.

This is my conspiracy theory for the day.
 
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I've never met anybody who actually paid these wild prices for new treatments. I think they just slap a huge price tag on them and then start up their manufacturer assistance and grant programs so that they can test them on poor people.

This is my conspiracy theory for the day.
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Science ain't cheap. Unfortunately.
 
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DailyBuck7 said:
Unfortunately, without that form of pricing there would probably be no drug at all. What it means is that the very rich and the poor will get it. Hopefully, economies of scale would bring it down. My solution to this problem would be for the govt to give bounties to drug companies for the creation of new drugs and for the drug companies to agree to charge reasonable amounts for their drugs as their part of the bargain.

I ran into an analogous situation with respect to a liver cancer drug about 18 years ago. My wife died of liver cancer, and there was a month's supply of a drug costing $5,000 or $8,000 a month that I tried to give away. There are laws against these give aways that even extend in some ways to China. If I wasn't a lawyer who would have been singled out for this type of offense, I would have found a way to give away the drug. So, the drug and money were wasted.
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I’m sorry that happened to your wife. That’s awful.
 
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