EARLY 2026-27 lineup projections/discussions

Joejitsu

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Is there much history in the Sanderson era of guys going down in weight? I am not aware of any.
i would normally agree with history and precedent but the new 5 for 5 changes that... the clock is ticking from the time they walk in the door now... so wrestlers are gonna get in wherever they can fit in and that is a tight window in nearly every weight class as PSU
 

Joejitsu

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Kasak's injury history, specifically concussions does not seem to lend this as the path.

Just ask Zain. You can't recover from concussions AND cut weight. I would bet someone with a history of them is even more likely prone to them.
Agreed that could be a factor... caloric reduction and dehydration could negatively impact concussion recovery time. But I think it has been nearly six months since his concussion and to move from 57 to 49 is not a huge drop. I dont know what he walks around at and how much he may even cut to get to 57 .... but he is not the tallest... and 6 months may not be out of the question even with the concussion recovery?
 

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Agreed that could be a factor... caloric reduction and dehydration could negatively impact concussion recovery time. But I think it has been nearly six months since his concussion and to move from 57 to 49 is not a huge drop. I dont know what he walks around at and how much he may even cut to get to 57 .... but he is not the tallest... and 6 months may not be out of the question even with the concussion recovery?

While he may be fully "recovered" - data suggests it's closer to 1 year before your truly recovered. And any time less than that, you're at a higher risk for another concussion. So combine that with cutting weight, and I just don't see how this works out well for Kasak.
 
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that is big news
The 10th should make a decision this week on the stay the NCAA filed in the Colorado case. An Ohio judge granted one in the Ohio case but those athletes are still eligible because of the Colorado ruling but judge Sweeney
 
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Joejitsu

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While he may be fully "recovered" - data suggests it's closer to 1 year before your truly recovered. And any time less than that, you're at a higher risk for another concussion. So combine that with cutting weight, and I just don't see how this works out well for Kasak.
no doubt... now we dont know the degree of the concussion either and a lot of unknows.... IDK I wouldnt rule anything out with 5 for 5 in play
 
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Brantt on 247 alluded a while ago that Levi is joining a lawsuit of some kind for a 5th year (before the blanket ruling)

To be honest, the NCAAs has been on the losing end of these typically. We have guys who have signed NFL contracts playing again.
 

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Brantt on 247 alluded a while ago that Levi is joining a lawsuit of some kind for a 5th year (before the blanket ruling)

To be honest, the NCAAs has been on the losing end of these typically. We have guys who have signed NFL contracts playing again.
Ill Be Back Jim Carrey GIF
 
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Goggles Paisano

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The guy who is getting jerked around with this in addition to Levi is probably PJ. If he has to go 174 he should already be well into an accent plan to put on 'good' weight. Most 174 lbers, walk around in the mid 180s if not higher. A big part of PJs game is sheer power, that won't be as easy without some serious adjustment period if he is a 10 lb undersized guy up two weights.

If Levi returns, the concensus says PJ has to go 157 which in and of itself means a decent plan and arguably a difficult cut all year.

The NCAA fu$ks up everything it touches. I have little doubt, the wrestlers will win this one but for crying out loud it needs to be finalized in the month of August.

In the meantime, I suspect PJ has to assume he needs to stay ready for 157 given that is the more difficult target. Every day this continues leaves him in the lurch.
 

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The guy who is getting jerked around with this in addition to Levi is probably PJ. If he has to go 174 he should already be well into an accent plan to put on 'good' weight. Most 174 lbers, walk around in the mid 180s if not higher. A big part of PJs game is sheer power, that won't be as easy without some serious adjustment period if he is a 10 lb undersized guy up two weights.

If Levi returns, the concensus says PJ has to go 157 which in and of itself means a decent plan and arguably a difficult cut all year.

The NCAA fu$ks up everything it touches. I have little doubt, the wrestlers will win this one but for crying out loud it needs to be finalized in the month of August.

In the meantime, I suspect PJ has to assume he needs to stay ready for 157 given that is the more difficult target. Every day this continues leaves him in the lurch.
Or he goes 157 regardless. And Henckel/Cunningham/James battle for 174
 

psustan

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Or he goes 157 regardless. And Henckel/Cunningham/James battle for 174
that feels like the only option at this point. you can't put on good weight this fast, you prepare for something like this, 2 weight class jump, for an entire offseason at least. unless penn state has always been less confident Levi would actually get his 5th year so PJ has been preparing for 74 this whole time
 
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Willie said Cael always said "the time to prepare for next year was 5 years ago"

I imagine every single scenario that has played out has been planned for. How? That is beyond me and I imagine we won't know much until the actual season starts
 
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The guy who is getting jerked around with this in addition to Levi is probably PJ. If he has to go 174 he should already be well into an accent plan to put on 'good' weight. Most 174 lbers, walk around in the mid 180s if not higher. A big part of PJs game is sheer power, that won't be as easy without some serious adjustment period if he is a 10 lb undersized guy up two weights.

If Levi returns, the concensus says PJ has to go 157 which in and of itself means a decent plan and arguably a difficult cut all year.

The NCAA fu$ks up everything it touches. I have little doubt, the wrestlers will win this one but for crying out loud it needs to be finalized in the month of August.

In the meantime, I suspect PJ has to assume he needs to stay ready for 157 given that is the more difficult target. Every day this continues leaves him in the lurch.
Unfortunately, I think the decision’s impact on wrestling is the least of the NCAA’s concerns.
 

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The guy who is getting jerked around with this in addition to Levi is probably PJ. If he has to go 174 he should already be well into an accent plan to put on 'good' weight. Most 174 lbers, walk around in the mid 180s if not higher. A big part of PJs game is sheer power, that won't be as easy without some serious adjustment period if he is a 10 lb undersized guy up two weights.

If Levi returns, the concensus says PJ has to go 157 which in and of itself means a decent plan and arguably a difficult cut all year.

The NCAA fu$ks up everything it touches. I have little doubt, the wrestlers will win this one but for crying out loud it needs to be finalized in the month of August.

In the meantime, I suspect PJ has to assume he needs to stay ready for 157 given that is the more difficult target. Every day this continues leaves him in the lurch.

The Colorado federal court case is still active. All that happened today was a stay of the temporary injunction. No one has any idea how long the federal case will take, but there is an obvious expiration date for it to matter to wrestling. If no decision is made by second semester it is unlikely to matter anymore. So there is still time for things to get messier.
 

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The Colorado federal court case is still active. All that happened today was a stay of the temporary injunction. No one has any idea how long the federal case will take, but there is an obvious expiration date for it to matter to wrestling. If no decision is made by second semester it is unlikely to matter anymore. So there is still time for things to get messier.
Well football drives the bus and a guy who just played 2 NFL preseason games is back to play in college. So they will make a decision soon. And the way Ohio and now Colorado ruled it's not looking good for the athletes
 

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Well football drives the bus and a guy who just played 2 NFL preseason games is back to play in college. So they will make a decision soon. And the way Ohio and now Colorado ruled it's not looking good for the athletes
Perhaps, but perhaps not. They are also pursuing treble damages so even if it becomes practically unimportant for football it may stay financially important.
 

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I've been amusing myself this past week wondering how this relative uncertainty (or: rollercoaster of changing certainties) is handled by Levi & Cael. I like picturing Levi thinking about hunting & fishing while training Freestyle and musing about whether his Nov to March will include Folkstyle comp.
 

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The guy who is getting jerked around with this in addition to Levi is probably PJ. If he has to go 174 he should already be well into an accent plan to put on 'good' weight. Most 174 lbers, walk around in the mid 180s if not higher. A big part of PJs game is sheer power, that won't be as easy without some serious adjustment period if he is a 10 lb undersized guy up two weights.

If Levi returns, the concensus says PJ has to go 157 which in and of itself means a decent plan and arguably a difficult cut all year.

The NCAA fu$ks up everything it touches. I have little doubt, the wrestlers will win this one but for crying out loud it needs to be finalized in the month of August.

In the meantime, I suspect PJ has to assume he needs to stay ready for 157 given that is the more difficult target. Every day this continues leaves him in the lurch.
I didn't wrestle, but I did lifting competition. It's a lot easier to go up then come down. I found in my experience, but of course I wasn't doing a full wrestling match.
I attempted nine lifts.

If Anyone would be capable of putting on good way and staying im shape, I'm thinking it would be him, especially with our coaching staff.
 

Lil Nicky Scarfo

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This may be unpopular, but you should have 4-years of NCAA competition period. Levi did that already and shouldn't get another year. The NCAA is screwing everything up so bad that we now have NFL players getting NCAA eligibility back for football.
I’m totally with you. Here’s my general reaction to all the extra year requests:


 

GregPickel

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Likely already posted, but for what it is worth, Levi is in the student directory.
FWIW, he's now in the directory as an employee instead of as a student. He's listed as a '
Wrestling Sport Camps Counselors,' which is a pretty routine listing for some NLWC guys. Doesn't mean things can't change as the court situations change, of course, but that's where things stand as of 1:45 on Aug. 25.
 

HOA242n!

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This may be unpopular, but you should have 4-years of NCAA competition period. Levi did that already and shouldn't get another year. The NCAA is screwing everything up so bad that we now have NFL players getting NCAA eligibility back for football.
I agree. Unfortunately the NCAA screwed up things a long time ago with guys already getting 5th, 6th, 7th, even 8th years of eligibility, before NIL. Now, with the athletes getting paid, it's a total clusterfudge.
 

HOA242n!

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5 in 5 is just the first step to unlimited eligibility. It's coming, just a matter of when.
I saw an interview this week with a college coach, might have been Lanning, head coach of Oregon football. He said something to the effect of "NCAA sports are now almost indistinguishable from triple-A baseball." At least someone, who is getting obscenely wealthy off it, had the balls to admit what we all see.
 

psustan

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5 in 5 is just the first step to unlimited eligibility. It's coming, just a matter of when.
pretty disingenuous leap to make there. for a significant portion of college athletics' history, players could spend 5 years at their school. 5 years of actual eligibility is a perfectly logical next step to no longer require athletes "waste" 1 year if they don't want to. lots of problems with college sports these days but 5-for-5 is pretty low on that list
 

MPPosterDeuce

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This may be unpopular, but you should have 4-years of NCAA competition period. Levi did that already and shouldn't get another year. The NCAA is screwing everything up so bad that we now have NFL players getting NCAA eligibility back for football.
I completely agree, and I’d be on board with telling Levi he doesn’t get any more eligibility if they actually enforced that for EVERYBODY. Of course we all know that never happens, especially in wrestling. Guys routinely get extra years handed out like candy. I’m sorry but I can’t stomach a complete garbage human being like AJ Ferrari getting 7 years but we’re supposed to tell Levi Haines he only gets 4.
 
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