Is driving to get groceries or to work

BlIIlken2

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Turning into a rich persons only activity now? How can the majority of Americans afford gas at this point?
 

BlIIlken2

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Not talking about me. I’m rich. Referring to the majority of Americans with maxed out credit cards and seeing $4 a gallon for gas in ******* Iowa.
 
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Turning into a rich persons only activity now? How can the majority of Americans afford gas at this point?
I get my groceries delivered (Amazon Fresh). The monthly subscription, groceries, and tip to the delivery person are cheaper than me shopping at the grocery store.
 
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TJ8869

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Honestly asking and not being a jerk, where do you live and are you using E-10 or E-15?

It's $4.10 around Iowa City and we have tons of kickbacks for ethanol. Even the E88/87 not great stuff is about $4.
Indy, and I’m referring to regular 87 octane unleaded. Yesterday it was $3.50 all over the area. A quick check of GasBuddy shows that it actually dropped overnight. This morning most places are in the $3.30s and a few places are even in the $3.20s.

*Update - it looks like the drop was brief. Most places are now back to around $3.50.
 
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baltimorened

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Not talking about me. I’m rich. Referring to the majority of Americans with maxed out credit cards and seeing $4 a gallon for gas in ******* Iowa.
if there are Americans with maxed out credit cards, maybe they should read some books on personal finance and budgeting.

If your outgo is more than your income, you either cut back on spending or increase revenues. Lots of people do it.
 
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Walmart+... $60/first year. Order online, delivered to the door. And Paramount+ is included.
I said I'd never shop at Walmart, but am now a happy Walmart+ subscriber.

Unlike some delivery subscriptions, Walmart+ doesn't jack up the prices. So it's just the regular price plus tip to get delivery.

In case you didn't know (and care) you can up the Paramount+ subscription to ad-free for $6/mo. I watch a lot more there since doing that.
 
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scotchtiger

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Turning into a rich persons only activity now? How can the majority of Americans afford gas at this point?

I wouldn’t call those rich person activities. We have most groceries delivered, so we’re not driving to the grocery store very often. I either work from home or fly to a destination for meetings/etc. So I’m not regularly driving to work either. I imagine that’s much more common among rich people, however you define that.

Gas price now is $4.10. It was $3.15 a year ago and $3.38 two years ago. So $3.27 for the two year average.

We’re talking about an extra 83 cents to drive roughly 20 miles… Given most people live very close to a grocery store and reasonably close to where they work, I can’t see how this dramatically changes their life.
 

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Is driving to get groceries or to work turning into a rich persons only activity now?
John Candy No GIF by Laff

How can the majority of Americans afford gas at this point?
Working hard? Implementing a budget. Living within their means? Don't fall for society's push to always get something new?
 
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McLovin32

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if there are Americans with maxed out credit cards, maybe they should read some books on personal finance and budgeting.

If your outgo is more than your income, you either cut back on spending or increase revenues. Lots of people do it.
I don't disagree with what you said here, at all.

But I'll also say that there's a lot of folks out there that are barely getting by, or bogged down with other expenses. Just because someone has a maxxed out credit card doesn't mean they're spending frivolously. A lot of folks in this country are struggling right now, and not all of them are struggling because they make dumb financial decisions.
 

baltimorened

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I don't disagree with what you said here, at all.

But I'll also say that there's a lot of folks out there that are barely getting by, or bogged down with other expenses. Just because someone has a maxxed out credit card doesn't mean they're spending frivolously. A lot of folks in this country are struggling right now, and not all of them are struggling because they make dumb financial decisions.
of course, I'm not disagreeing with your statement. But consider for a second, people at the low end of the financial spectrum have been struggling for decades. This is not a new phenomenon because of the Trump administration. We heard the same things as far back as the Johnson administration.

The question is, what do we as a society or the struggling individual do about it? How is it some people work their way out and others become dependent on the government? I guess we've been asking that question since Johnson and after 60 years you'd think we would have figured it out.

Now I know this is anecdotal and not applicable to every struggling person or family, but I watch some of these financial/budget shows with people who fit your description. Talk about financial illiteracy! They can't pay their bills, but the have door dash 5 nights a week, Starbucks every day, the newest iphones, and are paying 24% credit card interest....for some of these struggling folks reading a book on budgeting and determining the difference between want and need might go a long way.

And, there are some in our society who really, really need help and for those we need programs that give that help. The problem is ascertaining the difference between the two
 

McLovin32

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of course, I'm not disagreeing with your statement. But consider for a second, people at the low end of the financial spectrum have been struggling for decades. This is not a new phenomenon because of the Trump administration. We heard the same things as far back as the Johnson administration.

The question is, what do we as a society or the struggling individual do about it? How is it some people work their way out and others become dependent on the government? I guess we've been asking that question since Johnson and after 60 years you'd think we would have figured it out.

Now I know this is anecdotal and not applicable to every struggling person or family, but I watch some of these financial/budget shows with people who fit your description. Talk about financial illiteracy! They can't pay their bills, but the have door dash 5 nights a week, Starbucks every day, the newest iphones, and are paying 24% credit card interest....for some of these struggling folks reading a book on budgeting and determining the difference between want and need might go a long way.

And, there are some in our society who really, really need help and for those we need programs that give that help. The problem is ascertaining the difference between the two
Glad we agree that not all folks with a maxxed out credit card are in that situation because of dumb financial decisions.
 

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Glad we agree that not all folks with a maxxed out credit card are in that situation because of dumb financial decisions.
no for sure we agree on that...What bank would give a credit card to someone whose total income was based on government dependency checks?

EDIR: There will always be a segment of the population that truly needs help. We should make sure that we help them. Now whether that should be the responsibility of the federal government or the states is open for discussion
 

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I get my groceries delivered (Amazon Fresh). The monthly subscription, groceries, and tip to the delivery person are cheaper than me shopping at the grocery store.
i do a bit of this as well but a weekly visit to costco really hits the sweet spot of balancing quantity quality and cost
 
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I learned my lesson during the Bush years with $4+ gas. Buy fuel efficient cars that run on 87 octane. 30 MPG minimum. I was paying about $4.50/gallon for premium in 2008.

More of a long-term solution since buying a new car won't exactly save you money.

For the current situation, my wife and I both work from home and the closest grocery store is about 2 miles away.



2008 gas prices in 2026 dollars:

At the peak of the summer 2008 surge in July 2008, the U.S. national average retail price for premium gasoline (91–93 octane) reached approximately $4.40 to $4.50 per gallon.

2008 Peak Breakdown
  • Regular Gasoline Peak: Hit an all-time national average record of $4.11 per gallon in July 2008.
  • Premium Spread: Premium fuel generally carried a nominal markup of about 30 to 40 cents over regular grade during that specific summer spike.
  • Regional Variances: In high-cost states or remote areas (such as parts of California or rural Alaska), premium 93 octane frequently cleared $4.80 to over $5.00 per gallon at the pump.

When adjusted for cumulative inflation to equivalent buying power today, the July 2008 peak price of 93 octane premium gasoline equals an astounding $6.82 to $6.98 per gallon.
The broad economic impact of the 2008 gas crisis stands out starkly when compared to today's nominal pricing structures:

📈 Inflation-Adjusted Comparison Breakdown

Fuel Type / Metric2008 Peak (Nominal Price)2008 Peak (Adjusted to Today's Dollars)Current National Average (August 2026)
Regular Gasoline$4.11$6.37~$3.92
Premium 93 Octane$4.40 – $4.50$6.82 – $6.98~$4.50 – $4.75
High-Cost Regional Premium$5.00+$7.75+~$5.50 – $6.00
 
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Not talking about me. I’m rich. Referring to the majority of Americans with maxed out credit cards and seeing $4 a gallon for gas in ******* Iowa.
It is a bit of a joke. Yet the price of both food and gas continue to go up in price year after year. Let’s just hope we don’t see another huge jump in food/goods prices like we saw in 2020

I have much more of an issue of paying over $25k in daycare costs a year. Apparently having kids is for the wealthy.
 
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Aardvark86

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OP is really gonna be staggered to find out in 2 weeks Im driving 4 hours to spend the whole weekend driving in circles as fast as I can and burning as much fuel as possible. No groceries will be fetched.
I thought op was Bob Roberts reincarnated.
 
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