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dawgstudent

Heisman
Apr 15, 2003
40,184
21,109
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across baseball, men's basketball, women's basketball, football - how do you allocate $50 million of those dollars. I'm assuming $2 million goes to the other sports.

Football gets $30 million
Men's Basketball gets $13 million
Baseball get's $6 million
Women's Basketball gets $1 million
 

DerHntr

All-Conference
Sep 18, 2007
16,056
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across baseball, men's basketball, women's basketball, football - how do you allocate $50 million of those dollars. I'm assuming $2 million goes to the other sports.

Football gets $30 million
Men's Basketball gets $13 million
Baseball get's $6 million
Women's Basketball gets $1 million
Would you really give men’s basketball that much of a share with so few players compared to football? Google tells me it’s 114 vs 16 on the rosters.
 
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Maroon Eagle

All-American
May 24, 2006
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Baseball gets 6 million
Men’s Basketball is allocated 12 million but considering how recruiting has been we’ll be flexible here. Some could go to football…
Women’s Basketball gets 1 million
Softball and Soccer combined gets 1 million
Football gets the rest of the 17…
 

Dawgbite

Heisman
Nov 1, 2011
9,604
10,682
113
If we spent the entire amount on football we’d still be in the bottom half of the SEC in spending. There are two sports that we’ve proven that we can compete in nationally, Baseball and WBB. I would be top 3 in spending in the SEC in both sports. MBB I personally don’t care about but I’d try to at least spend around the SEC average in order to be competitive. The rest would go to football because let’s be honest the difference between 25 million and 50 million is negligible when we’re playing against teams spending 150 million.
 

dawgstudent

Heisman
Apr 15, 2003
40,184
21,109
113
If we spent the entire amount on football we’d still be in the bottom half of the SEC in spending. There are two sports that we’ve proven that we can compete in nationally, Baseball and WBB. I would be top 3 in spending in the SEC in both sports. MBB I personally don’t care about but I’d try to at least spend around the SEC average in order to be competitive. The rest would go to football because let’s be honest the difference between 25 million and 50 million is negligible when we’re playing against teams spending 150 million.
What school is spending $150 million?
 
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MStateDawg

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Aug 3, 2021
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Football gets $30 million
Men's Basketball gets $13 million
Baseball get's $6 million
Women's Basketball gets $1 million
If you break this down by dollar amount per scholarship, then $13 million is way too much for men's basketball: nearly $900k per scholarship or essentially triple what football works out to.

If football truly is the "money maker", then you can't justify giving them 1/3 of what basketball gets.

Baseball: 6,000,000/34=176K
Men's Basketball: 13,000,000/15=867K
Women's Basketball: 1,000,000/15=67K

Football:
30,000,000/105=286k
30,000,000/85=353K

I'd go with:
Football: $35 million
Men's Basketball: 8 million
Baseball: 5.5 million
Women's Basketball: 1.5 million
 

patdog

Heisman
May 28, 2007
59,614
30,289
113
Football - $38 million
Basketball - $3 million
Baseball - $8 million
Women basketball - $500 thousand
Women soccer - $1 million
Women softball - $1 million
Everything else - $500 thousand
 
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gtowndawg

Senior
Jan 23, 2007
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across baseball, men's basketball, women's basketball, football - how do you allocate $50 million of those dollars. I'm assuming $2 million goes to the other sports.

Football gets $30 million
Men's Basketball gets $13 million
Baseball get's $6 million
Women's Basketball gets $1 million
I'm on board with this plan.
 

Dawgbite

Heisman
Nov 1, 2011
9,604
10,682
113
I wouldn't choose women's basketball for that
What would you choose? My thoughts are that just a portion of the 52 million would allow us to be nationally competitive in WBB and Baseball but the entire 52 million isn’t going to make our football team competitive because there are so many teams out there spending so much more.
 

OG Goat Holder

Heisman
Sep 30, 2022
13,757
12,590
113
What would you choose? My thoughts are that just a portion of the 52 million would allow us to be nationally competitive in WBB and Baseball but the entire 52 million isn’t going to make our football team competitive because there are so many teams out there spending so much more.
Baseball only. Make sure we are always competitive there and plus, it's a cultural attraction for us.

Football and basketball get the rest.
 

Dawgzilla2

All-Conference
Oct 9, 2022
2,409
2,758
113
If you break this down by dollar amount per scholarship, then $13 million is way too much for men's basketball: nearly $900k per scholarship or essentially triple what football works out to.

If football truly is the "money maker", then you can't justify giving them 1/3 of what basketball gets.

Baseball: 6,000,000/34=176K
Men's Basketball: 13,000,000/15=867K
Women's Basketball: 1,000,000/15=67K

Football:
30,000,000/105=286k
30,000,000/85=353K

I'd go with:
Football: $35 million
Men's Basketball: 8 million
Baseball: 5.5 million
Women's Basketball: 1.5 million
You're not wrong, but the going rate for quality basketball players has apparently become substantially higher than the rate for football players, particularly in the SEC.

I've posted the same NY Times article at least three times on the board. After talking to anonymous SEC coaches, they estimate the average SEC basketball roster cost this year at $18 million, with three schools around $30 million.

Those numbers are insane, and a gigantic increase over last year. If they are accurate, the price for BB players is way out of balance with football.

UF has one of the best MBB rosters in the country. Grok says MBB accounts for 7% of UF's revenue, while football provides 51%. UF may be spending $30 million on its BB roster, but Im pretty sure they aren't spending even $60 million on football.
 

OG Goat Holder

Heisman
Sep 30, 2022
13,757
12,590
113
If you break this down by dollar amount per scholarship, then $13 million is way too much for men's basketball: nearly $900k per scholarship or essentially triple what football works out to.

If football truly is the "money maker", then you can't justify giving them 1/3 of what basketball gets.

Baseball: 6,000,000/34=176K
Men's Basketball: 13,000,000/15=867K
Women's Basketball: 1,000,000/15=67K

Football:
30,000,000/105=286k
30,000,000/85=353K

I'd go with:
Football: $35 million
Men's Basketball: 8 million
Baseball: 5.5 million
Women's Basketball: 1.5 million
Going by your numbers by sheer roster spots, it's about 306K per spot. That's 32M for football, 10M for baseball, and 4.6M each for men's and women's basketball. That's your starting point. I'd scale women's basketball down to 1M, up men's basketball to about 6, give 1M to softball and other sports, then give the remaining mil point two or so back to football.
 

FormerBully

All-American
Sep 2, 2022
5,017
8,380
113
I’m giving all $50 million to basketball in Year 1. We’re getting that natty. No diversification. No risk management. Banner or bankruptcy.

Year 2, we pivot everything to football.

Soccer gets a yearly car wash to fund NIL. With the baddies we’ve got, I wouldn’t be shocked if they somehow win a few national titles anyway.

We’ll try something with softball. I’m not convinced the car wash economics translate, but maybe we at least earn the right to host.

Baseball is where things get innovative. We build 20 travel-ball fields and host 9U tournaments every weekend. The winners get told they’re officially “on our recruiting radar.” That should buy us a solid 8 or 9 years before anybody starts asking difficult questions.

Then at night, we sell tickets at the Hump for Travel Ball Parent UFC.

That umpire called your boy out at second?

Wonderful.

You two can discuss it in the octagon at 8:30.

Ticket revenue goes straight into NIL across all sports.

This is called a sustainable athletics model. Please respect the vision.
 

JackShephard

Senior
Sep 27, 2011
1,627
783
113
I make all of the coaches put together a budget and a detailed plan for how they would spend it along with their expectations for success as related to the budget. Then I would make a flexible starting plan and adjust accordingly as I see how well each coach is executing their plan.

As Lebby continues to strike out on his big targets, maybe I start reallocating to baseball and basketball. If he gets a solid OL put together, maybe I siphon some from another sport to help land a QB/WR/RB.
 

dogmatic001

Junior
Sep 30, 2022
258
267
63
Winning. Being mentioned in the same sentence as UCONN and South Carolina Be the best or among the best at something instead of mediocrity across the board.
I prefer this philosophy. If baseball and WBB are our thing, make it so. Like the personal development strategy of maximizing your best trait. Better to be a 10 in one thing and a 4 in the others than to be a 6.6/7 in everything.
 

Napoleon378

All-Conference
Nov 14, 2023
777
1,219
93
across baseball, men's basketball, women's basketball, football - how do you allocate $50 million of those dollars. I'm assuming $2 million goes to the other sports.

Football gets $30 million
Men's Basketball gets $13 million
Baseball get's $6 million
Women's Basketball gets $1 million
football - 40 million
MBB - 8 million
Baseball - 4 million

rest fend for themselves.
 

8dog

All-American
Feb 23, 2008
14,798
7,010
113
across baseball, men's basketball, women's basketball, football - how do you allocate $50 million of those dollars. I'm assuming $2 million goes to the other sports.

Football gets $30 million
Men's Basketball gets $13 million
Baseball get's $6 million
Women's Basketball gets $1 million
Football $45
Baseball $5
MBK $1
WBK $1
 

Willow Grove Dawg

All-American
Nov 3, 2016
8,191
5,735
113
$35 million Football (would be at least $5 million more than current)
$10 million Men's Basketball
$5 million Baseball
$2 million non-revenue sports including Women's Basketball

*Is there a requirement now that athletes in non-revenue sports receive some portion of the Revenue Share?
 
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OopsICroomedmypants

All-Conference
Sep 29, 2022
2,192
3,010
113
You're not wrong, but the going rate for quality basketball players has apparently become substantially higher than the rate for football players, particularly in the SEC.

I've posted the same NY Times article at least three times on the board. After talking to anonymous SEC coaches, they estimate the average SEC basketball roster cost this year at $18 million, with three schools around $30 million.

Those numbers are insane, and a gigantic increase over last year. If they are accurate, the price for BB players is way out of balance with football.

UF has one of the best MBB rosters in the country. Grok says MBB accounts for 7% of UF's revenue, while football provides 51%. UF may be spending $30 million on its BB roster, but Im pretty sure they aren't spending even $60 million on football.
If that's the case we need to drop most NIL funds from basketball, concede to losing and put those funds into baseball or football. It seems there is a budget threshold to sign high 4 stars consistently in football and we haven't hit the mark yet.
 

Deltaduckhunter

Freshman
Feb 25, 2017
69
70
18
I'm a baseball guy and love having the best facilities in the country, but winning a natty in baseball is not going to increase giving, increase enrollment, and get the school much national publicity, other than from other college baseball fans. Being relevant in football does all of those things, which in-turn provides more money for everyone. Just my two cents.
 

OG Goat Holder

Heisman
Sep 30, 2022
13,757
12,590
113
I'm a baseball guy and love having the best facilities in the country, but winning a natty in baseball is not going to increase giving, increase enrollment, and get the school much national publicity, other than from other college baseball fans. Being relevant in football does all of those things, which in-turn provides more money for everyone. Just my two cents.
BS. It obviously doesn't move the needle like football, but it's not chopped liver. It certainly helps with enrollment and getting us in the public eye.
 

POTUS

Heisman
Sep 29, 2022
4,512
12,070
113
Buy a MBB Natty. Imagine the NBA Draft coverage. The first 5 picks come from Mississippi State. No one can deny that would be super fun.
 

o_Hot Rock

Senior
Jan 2, 2010
1,974
892
113
No specific dollar amount. I would want a well rounded athletic dept. and never put all my eggs in one sport but with priorities.

1 Football -
2 MBB
3 Baseball
4 WBB & Softball
5 all others. Scraps with maybe a hint of women’s golf favored. Love me some Women golfers😊

I would then have a budget that funded the top three to make them competitive but if there was a coach on board attracting great, not just good players because of him and his coaching was obviously great as well, that guy gets a bump in NIL.
I would definitely favor baseball with that right now but if Lebby shows he is the guy this year all others would need to understand football pays all the bills but without completely stripping everyone.
If we ran into a year when it a was an all in year in football to make a run with a QB, I better have some donors ready to fund that year or two to a higher level to make that run.
 
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