.....case was charged with 2nd degree murder by NY. The Feds charged him with Stalking. Both cases are the same situation and use the same facts sets. He appears soon to plead guilty to the federal stalking charge, thus in effect, negating his murder charge in NYC due to the double jeopardy rule. So, it sounds like he is about to get away with IMO, First Degree Murder of planning at length for days the shooting of Ins. Executive Brian Thompson in the back in broad day light including with a suppressor used on his weapon. I don't know how this could be anything but 1st Deg. murder. Had this been in the south or some other conservative state, he would be getting the Death Penalty for First Deg. murder.
OT: Mangione gunman in NYC.....
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Without having read anything about what’s going on with the case recently, is that description accurate or is this one of those political things? That’s not how I would’ve expected double jeopardy to work.
edit: went and read a few articles. I would hope/expect either plea to get rejected or for state to get around it, but it sounded like New York was strict on double jeopardy as well. It would be crazy if that ended up being the outcome
edit: went and read a few articles. I would hope/expect either plea to get rejected or for state to get around it, but it sounded like New York was strict on double jeopardy as well. It would be crazy if that ended up being the outcome
Wow, it's mid-August and nearing the start of football...but damn this thread delivers some randomness.
- it isn't double jeopardy, though I am sure that would be argued by his team. A state can push forward and its a distinctly different charge.
Stalking and 2nd degree murder aren't even close to similar. They should not be viewed as effectively similar enough for double jeopardy to appl
- why would federal prosecutors plea this to stalking? Like why move forward at all, with a murder 2 charge also on the table?
- stalking only?...is the federal government soft on crime?
- asking for Mangione to assassinate another person is wild. So unhinged it's crazy to even claim it's a joke if called out.
- it isn't double jeopardy, though I am sure that would be argued by his team. A state can push forward and its a distinctly different charge.
Stalking and 2nd degree murder aren't even close to similar. They should not be viewed as effectively similar enough for double jeopardy to appl
- why would federal prosecutors plea this to stalking? Like why move forward at all, with a murder 2 charge also on the table?
- stalking only?...is the federal government soft on crime?
- asking for Mangione to assassinate another person is wild. So unhinged it's crazy to even claim it's a joke if called out.
What an absurd claim.
- If someone actually wants this, they are in the extreme minority.
- What does opening prisons have to do with this case?
- If Mangione pleads to stalking and gets out of prison(aI ssume that is why you posted this comment), its Trump's doj that will have done that.
I don't know anyone, regardless of political leanings, who advocates for sending mentally ill people to stand on street corners.
That's an odd claim to even respond to.
What's crazy is the number of unhinged left-wingers that want to assassinate trump.
None of your Demwits care that he has a bullseye on him, and most lament the fact that the previous attempts to take him out have been unsuccessful.
Not that I think there's any chance of this actually happening, but it would be shockingly incompetent if Trump's justice department screwed up the murder charge by nailing him for stalking.
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