OT: New Truck

ronpolk

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I’m in the market for a new truck. I think it’s time to move on from my 2015 Silverado. It’s been a good one but it’s time for a new one.

I’m considering a Silverado, sierra, f150 or tundra. Any of you guys bought one recently and been happy or hated it?
 

ronpolk

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With today’s prices & poor reliability, I’d buy used.
I’m not opposed to that. It really is amazing how many new trucks seem to have major issues. I thought toyota was the gold standard when it came to reliability but lots of negative experiences with the tundra.

Lots of people have had bad experiences with the model Silverado that I have. Luckily, I’ve never had an issue and I’m over 200k miles right now.
 

GloryDawg

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My son is a Toyota Tech. I asked him about trucks. He said none of them are good. He said the F150 is the way to go but it is really over priced. He just bought a new 2026 Toyota Tundra. Fully loaded with leather seats. Its prices at 61K where the F150 with same features would have been 10K more. He only financed 32K. He got empoloyee discount and a really good trade in on his 2023 Ford F150. He did not owe much on the Ford. I am planing on buying a truck next year and I will get a Tundra as well. I know he can work on it.
 
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ETK99

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They all suck and are overpriced. I'd probably go GMC. Been a Ford guy my whole life but they're crap now and you almost can't use aftermarket parts with them. Gets expensive in a hurry.
 
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BoDawg.sixpack

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I’m in the market for a new truck. I think it’s time to move on from my 2015 Silverado. It’s been a good one but it’s time for a new one.

I’m considering a Silverado, sierra, f150 or tundra. Any of you guys bought one recently and been happy or hated it?
Wait until the end of the year when the redesigned Silverado starts to roll out. Looks like it might be worth waiting for. But being that it's a brand new redesign I don't know if the discounts are going to amount to much.
 

CochiseCowbell

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After putting 388,000 miles on a 04 Ram 2500 I decided to upgrade last September. So far no complaints. I did go 1500 this time around.
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Unpopular opinion around here, but the 2 trucks I've bought are both Rams; '99 1500 & currently 2017 1500 Laramie.

There was an 01 Outback (I dubbed The Dyke) & an 05 Expedition in between.

The 99 definitely had some issues later on. However, this Laramie is the best & most reliable vehicle I've ever owned. Yet, given the above rides that's a given.
 

Hugh's Burner Phone

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Unpopular opinion around here, but the 2 trucks I've bought are both Rams; '99 1500 & currently 2017 1500 Laramie.

There was an 01 Outback (I dubbed The Dyke) & an 05 Expedition in between.

The 99 definitely had some issues later on. However, this Laramie is the best & most reliable vehicle I've ever owned. Yet, given the above rides that's a given.
My 04 took me through three direct tornado hits while chasing. I have to say I hope that number is far less in this one.
 
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I’m a GM guy but their gas burners have had all sorts of engine issues.

They’re finally getting over the fiasco with the transmission module problems from the Allison transmissions in the diesels.

GM and and Allison have parted ways over it.

Toyota had the massive engine recall on many of their trucks.
 

M R DAWGS

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I’ve always been a GM guy as well, but after my wife’s 5.3 v8 engine blowing at 140,000 miles due to a failed lifter and my 6.2 starting to knock at 145,000 miles. I traded both and went to Ford.

I got her an expedition with the 3.5 eco boost and I got a F250 with the 7.3 gas engine. No cylinder deactivation and plenty of power to haul my tractor, sxs, etc.

Hopefully these vehicles will last, but new vehicles are losing investment.
 

TheDawg-Pound

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I’ve always been a GM guy as well, but after my wife’s 5.3 v8 engine blowing at 140,000 miles due to a failed lifter and my 6.2 starting to knock at 145,000 miles. I traded both and went to Ford.

I got her an expedition with the 3.5 eco boost and I got a F250 with the 7.3 gas engine. No cylinder deactivation and plenty of power to haul my tractor, sxs, etc.

Hopefully these vehicles will last, but new vehicles are losing investment.
And getting more expensive. Extended warranty is a must.
 

HailDearOleState

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Been a GMC guy for years. Had a 6.2 Sierra but dumped it with the engine troubles. Just switched to a F150 King Ranch with the power boost. Love it so far, interior is great, so far the hybrid motor isn’t too “weird”, and mileage has certainly improved. Strange to say, but maybe I’m a ford guy now. My wife still has a 6.2 GMC Yukon, it may be the next to go.
 
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Jacknut

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RAM with the twin turbo I6. Or you can get the hemi as well. I think I read that they were removing all that cylinder deactivation BS from it.
 
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Wait until the end of the year when the redesigned Silverado starts to roll out. Looks like it might be worth waiting for. But being that it's a brand new redesign I don't know if the discounts are going to amount to much.
I would hold off on the 2027 Sierras or Silverados with the new V8s for at least one year. The new models should hit the showroom in Late Oct. or early Nov. Currently the incentives on the 2026 are hard to pass up while they are trying to liquidate their inventory.

Last month I traded in my 2022 with a 5.3L for an AT4 with the 3.0L Duramax diesel. My commute is over 30 min each way to the office and I'm blown away at how fuel efficient it is. It also pulls a trailer with my SxS like a champ.
 

BoDawg.sixpack

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I would hold off on the 2027 Sierras or Silverados with the new V8s for at least one year. The new models should hit the showroom in Late Oct. or early Nov. Currently the incentives on the 2026 are hard to pass up while they are trying to liquidate their inventory.

Last month I traded in my 2022 with a 5.3L for an AT4 with the 3.0L Duramax diesel. My commute is over 30 min each way to the office and I'm blown away at how fuel efficient it is. It also pulls a trailer with my SxS like a champ.
But is it fuel efficient enough to completely offset the cost of diesel and DEF compared to 87 octane?
 
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I would hold off on the 2027 Sierras or Silverados with the new V8s for at least one year. The new models should hit the showroom in Late Oct. or early Nov. Currently the incentives on the 2026 are hard to pass up while they are trying to liquidate their inventory.

Last month I traded in my 2022 with a 5.3L for an AT4 with the 3.0L Duramax diesel. My commute is over 30 min each way to the office and I'm blown away at how fuel efficient it is. It also pulls a trailer with my SxS like a champ.
Those baby diesels are awesome. They had some issues at first but they have ironed them out.
 
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DawgNsuds

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I have a GMC, really looked at the Tundra but they had just moved away from making a V8 and I couldn't wrap my head around a truck with a 6 cylinder. Haven't followed up to see how the Toyota 6 cylinder has performed.
 

40mikemike

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You couldn’t give me a GM product right now. My 2017 Sierra had transmission issues. Now, my wife’s 2022 Tahoe is having engine problems. I bought an F-250 and I like it. Only issue I’ve had is the sunroof creaks and rattles. We’re looking at a Nissan Armada for my wife. Test drove an Expedition and it was great, but I don’t know if it is great enough to justify the higher price compared to the Armada. The truth is, they all suck and they’re all expensive.
 
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But is it fuel efficient enough to completely offset the cost of diesel and DEF compared to 87 octane?
It depends. If you’re doing alot of towing the diesel would be the better choice because of the better torque even when factoring in fuel prices. If you’re just driving around not towing it’s probably not the best choice.

DEF isn’t really that big of a deal as far as cost. Unless you’re towing heavy loads and hard pulls the truck isn’t going to burn a lot of DEF.
 
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You couldn’t give me a GM product right now. My 2017 Sierra had transmission issues. Now, my wife’s 2022 Tahoe is having engine problems. I bought an F-250 and I like it. Only issue I’ve had is the sunroof creaks and rattles. We’re looking at a Nissan Armada for my wife. Test drove an Expedition and it was great, but I don’t know if it is great enough to justify the higher price compared to the Armada. The truth is, they all suck and they’re all expensive.
The ford rattles, It’s a thing. Wait til it gets about 50k miles and it will be all you hear.
 
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But is it fuel efficient enough to completely offset the cost of diesel and DEF compared to 87 octane?
Right now on my daily commute I'm averaging 24.5 mpg and with my 5.3 I was averaging 16.5 mpg. Running the numbers and around $1.60 to $1.80 per gallon difference between diesel and 87 octane is the break even point.

Def will cost you around $25 every 4 - 5 thousand miles from what I've been told as long as you are not towing a lot.
 
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msudogsrule

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If you don't need the full-size, then may I recommend the Ridgeline? Rock-solid naturally aspirated V6 that they have been using for a decade, normal transmission, comfortable to drive like an SUV, has the general tech you want but not a lot of the goofy stuff you don't need. I know people will scoff, but it will get you good gas mileage and run for 300,000 miles with almost no problems. It can tow up to 5,000 pounds as well. If you need a full-size, I get it, but for 99% of what people use trucks for this hits the right notes. Also, Honda is about to phase out this generation, so deals will be available.
 
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It depends. If you’re doing alot of towing the diesel would be the better choice because of the better torque even when factoring in fuel prices. If you’re just driving around not towing it’s probably not the best choice.

DEF isn’t really that big of a deal as far as cost. Unless you’re towing heavy loads and hard pulls the truck isn’t going to burn a lot of DEF.
Another factor if you are considering the babymax is the emissions systems does not do well if you do a lot of short trips. They are made for long commutes to keep the DP filters clean. My mom has a Yukon with the 3.0 and she has sporadic issues with the emissions system but she does a lot of short trips. The dealer told her when she gets a check engine light to turn on the tow haul mode and run it hard for about 10 miles to clear the filters. Since then she hasn't had any issues.

I did a lot of research on the 3.0 because I didn't want a 6.2 and the 3.0 had the best towing fuel economy in the 1500 line up. What shocked me in my research is how bad the fuel economy was on the 6.2 when towing.
 

o_Hot Rock

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If EVs had the kind of problems these gas burners are having in Pick-up trucks these past few years, you guys would be convinced all EVs were trash. Hell, they stopped making the Ford lightening so few bought one. It's not that the lightening wasn't a good product, it's that real men don't buy EVs for trucks and the price tag was too dang high. My son-in-law got the Ford Lightning. He was the type that bought a new truck every dang year. Within 6 months he had a Viper, Tesla Plaid on top of Chevy Truck, all used. He got a good deal, drives awhile and sells it at about what he pays. He just keeps a payment or tow.

He has had this Lightening four years and has no intention of trading any time soon. It is still like brand new, cheap to operate and almost maintenance free. Just plug it in at night and drive. That's it, oh and put some washer fluid and clean the cabin air filter. You can check the brake pads but they die of old age before they get worn out unless you are hauling a lot of stuff and if that's the case, you may want a Diesel anyway.

Thing is they drop significantly in value on the used market. You can pick up a good used low mileage Lightening in the mid-30s. Find one, test drive it before you pull the trigger. You will need a 50 amp plug ran to your carport or at least 32amp and get yourself a charger to plug into it. Then learn about charging elsewhere and hope you only charge away from home occassionally. If not, stick with a gas burner. If you drive as much as I do. The fuel and lack of maintenance savings would save thousands over the years in a vehicle that goes 0-60 in about 4 seconds. Fun to drive but it has to fit you. Not everyone will want to learn what ti takes to be an EV owner. To me it's not harder than owning an ICE. It is easier to me but only after you have learned how to navigate ownership as it is different.

Your driving habits will be the key and your willingness to learn something new. Plus, man enough to take being laughed at by fellow rednecks. When you go a few years without an oil change or stopping to drop a $75-100 on fuel several times a month you most likely will realize the fears you had were just partially true and that the trouble was worth it. It will take some getting used to but I like doing those things. Not everyone will.
 

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Just bought a 2025 f150 lariat. Had 8k miles. Paid $51,500. Love it. But I’m a ford guy. Love the space they have and the comfort.

@Wesson Bulldog might could give more infor. He runs a Ford dealership
 

MooseDog

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I recently went from a 13 chevy to a 21 Nissan Titan, I know they are discontinued but I did a bunch of research. I liked that the Titan is a straight V8 without all the turbo crap they are putting in vehicles now. I've gotten over 21 mpg on the interstate with it.
 
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If EVs had the kind of problems these gas burners are having in Pick-up trucks these past few years, you guys would be convinced all EVs were trash. Hell, they stopped making the Ford lightening so few bought one. It's not that the lightening wasn't a good product, it's that real men don't buy EVs for trucks and the price tag was too dang high. My son-in-law got the Ford Lightning. He was the type that bought a new truck every dang year. Within 6 months he had a Viper, Tesla Plaid on top of Chevy Truck, all used. He got a good deal, drives awhile and sells it at about what he pays. He just keeps a payment or tow.

He has had this Lightening four years and has no intention of trading any time soon. It is still like brand new, cheap to operate and almost maintenance free. Just plug it in at night and drive. That's it, oh and put some washer fluid and clean the cabin air filter. You can check the brake pads but they die of old age before they get worn out unless you are hauling a lot of stuff and if that's the case, you may want a Diesel anyway.

Thing is they drop significantly in value on the used market. You can pick up a good used low mileage Lightening in the mid-30s. Find one, test drive it before you pull the trigger. You will need a 50 amp plug ran to your carport or at least 32amp and get yourself a charger to plug into it. Then learn about charging elsewhere and hope you only charge away from home occassionally. If not, stick with a gas burner. If you drive as much as I do. The fuel and lack of maintenance savings would save thousands over the years in a vehicle that goes 0-60 in about 4 seconds. Fun to drive but it has to fit you. Not everyone will want to learn what ti takes to be an EV owner. To me it's not harder than owning an ICE. It is easier to me but only after you have learned how to navigate ownership as it is different.

Your driving habits will be the key and your willingness to learn something new. Plus, man enough to take being laughed at by fellow rednecks. When you go a few years without an oil change or stopping to drop a $75-100 on fuel several times a month you most likely will realize the fears you had were just partially true and that the trouble was worth it. It will take some getting used to but I like doing those things. Not everyone will.
There is little doubt that intentionally or not (probably not) the quest to squeeze every last 1/100 of an ounce less gasoline usage out of the combustion engines has made them so unreliable that as inconvenient as an electric can be it starts to look like a better option. Until about 5 years ago most gas engines were Rick solid though.
 
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I’m in the market for a new truck. I think it’s time to move on from my 2015 Silverado. It’s been a good one but it’s time for a new one.

I’m considering a Silverado, sierra, f150 or tundra. Any of you guys bought one recently and been happy or hated it?
F150
 
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